Hacking SX Modchip firmware has been dumped

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Maybe don't exposed the exploit too soon, the Switch Pro is coming out early next year - you wouldn't want Nintendo to patch it before it's launched.
Nintendo already knows how this exploit works. Their engineers are not stupid. They already should know how to patch this vurnerability. Issue lays if this is something that requires high stack of cash to fix or not.

And my bad - I was thinking it will be possible to run Atmosphere by Hekate from SX OS boot menu, but it looks like thanks to Gateway shenanigans it won't be possible on Mariko until Atmosphere will implement illegal stuff. Running Atmosphere will require different approach.
 
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This method will be invalid if user will not use emunand and they will update sysnand to version not compatible with SX OS.

Only method that should always work (when Hekate and Atmoshpere will release versions supporting Mariko) is to boot Hekate from SX OS boot menu and from Hekate run Atmosphere. This method is independent from Horizon version.
You're right but you need to remember on "clean up" in sx os boot menu after every restart.
 

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You guys know if sx os boot menu burn fuses? From my experience I think it does burn fuses (atleast for one of the recent sx os firmwares, dont know about the newest 2-3, beta included) but Hekate doesnt burn it even if you boot to stock rom.

I just dont want to try it second time (sx os boot menu) because im afraid to burn them again..... so, does anyone has experience with sx os boot menu when it comes to fuses (or I did just something stupid and thats why I burnt my fuses with sx os)?
 
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You guys know if sx os boot menu burn fuses? From my experience I think it does burn fuses (atleast for one of the recent sx os firmwares, dont know about the newest 2-3, beta included) but Hekate doesnt burn it even if you boot to stock rom.

I just dont want to try it second time (sx os boot menu) because im afraid to burn them again..... so, does anyone has experience with sx os boot menu when it comes to fuses (or I did just something stupid and thats why I burnt my fuses with sx os)?

Fuses burn unless you have Autorcm in use
 
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Shouldnt it be that you burn fuses only if you use the official bootloader from Nintendo? Other booatloaders shouldnt burn it..... if you avoid the official bootloader you shouldnt burn fuses, isnt it like that?
 

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Fuses burn unless you have Autorcm in use

Shouldnt it be that you burn fuses only if you use the official bootloader from Nintendo? Other booatloaders shouldnt burn it..... if you avoid the official bootloader you shouldnt burn fuses, isnt it like that?

fuses dont burn in sxos
even if you use the chip and boot original firmware then update they dont burn

genuine boot burns fuses tho
 
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But I'm pretty sure you have to pay for the clones also. I never had a problem with SXOS because it was easy to use and plug and play sure $50-$60 that's just the price of 1 game. That's a good deal now the clones they may just be a cash grab they probally work on 10.2.0 but not support future firmware updates so now you have a useless clone. SXOS may rise again and support new firmware in the future
Do you mean you have to pay for the clone hardware, or software? Because like I said, I'm fine with paying for hardware (modchips, jigs, etc) but if I recall, SXOS' main competitor was Atmosphere, which was free.
 
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This is not 3DS thread. Gateway is not encrypting any saves on Switch, so you are searching in wrong place.
Oh, I thought both the SX OS and Gateway was dumped, since they're made from the same team. My bad.
it takes some extra steps but you have been able to extract the data and even inject into cias for quite some time now
https://gbatemp.net/threads/importing-gateway-saves-to-cia-games.425743/
Yes, I already know about that method, but you need to be able to boot into Gateway, which is impossible now since they haven't updated it in years (and won't ever, since they're now arrested).
 
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Do you mean you have to pay for the clone hardware, or software? Because like I said, I'm fine with paying for hardware (modchips, jigs, etc) but if I recall, SXOS' main competitor was Atmosphere, which was free.

Yes 9/10 times the clone they will charge you for it. If they are making a clone modchip you will have to pay for it maybe it will be like $30 bucks
 
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Yes 9/10 times the clone they will charge you for it. If they are making a clone modchip you will have to pay for it maybe it will be like $30 bucks
Yeah, like I said, I'm fine with paying for modchips. It's physical, tangible hardware that does cost money to manufacture and design, so it makes sense.
 

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so the switch modding is going kinda similar to the ps3
Well anyways, I have to learn soldering

You mean the 360 as the RGH mod chips would glitch the CPU voltage, which would allow for code execution (as as what TX's chip is doing on the Switch).

PS3 just had E3 Flashers etc to downgrade the firmware to 3.55 so you could install CFW.
 

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Nintendo didn't get them on the piracy thing it can down to the selling of the modchips, so I worry about any open-source chips coming out for sale
 

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Nintendo didn't get them on the piracy thing it can down to the selling of the modchips, so I worry about any open-source chips coming out for sale
they haven't "got them" on anything yet
but they are being charged with both
but only the piracy thing is actually illegal , they were selling roms
they can't win on the other stuff because the SX core and lite chips have other uses besides enabling backups and and even if they didn't the DMCA still allows you to make one backup of ANY media , which includes video games( evenif not explicitly stated)
( of course this is still BS you can make all the copies you want as long as you are not selling them at a profit, anything else is fair use/ file sharing)

in order for it to be considered a violation of the (fraudulently purchased law,literally purchased by literal child raping hollywood pedos) DMCA it would have to have no other purposes than to enable copyright circumvention
but it is on very firm ground here as it can enable homebrew as well as enabling the ability to run alternate OS's such as ANdroid and Linux

So is the are going to get any conviction in this case it will be for the selling of devices with pre-loaded ROMS
not for SX core and LITE chips,perhaps for using headers to load xci's in their SX OS
but certainly not for the chips themselves
any clone glitch chips that enable you to load another CFW would not be violation either
of course we know there is widespread corruption and they may just be looking to try and set such a prescdent with this case
but the case will not be settled for a very long time anyways
 

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they haven't "got them" on anything yet
but they are being charged with both
but only the piracy thing is actually illegal , they were selling roms
they can't win on the other stuff because the SX core and lite chips have other uses besides enabling backups and and even if they didn't the DMCA still allows you to make one backup of ANY media , which includes video games( evenif not explicitly stated)
( of course this is still BS you can make all the copies you want as long as you are not selling them at a profit, anything else is fair use/ file sharing)

in order for it to be considered a violation of the (fraudulently purchased law,literally purchased by literal child raping hollywood pedos) DMCA it would have to have no other purposes than to enable copyright circumvention
but it is on very firm ground here as it can enable homebrew as well as enabling the ability to run alternate OS's such as ANdroid and Linux

So is the are going to get any conviction in this case it will be for the selling of devices with pre-loaded ROMS
not for SX core and LITE chips,perhaps for using headers to load xci's in their SX OS
but certainly not for the chips themselves
any clone glitch chips that enable you to load another CFW would not be violation either
of course we know there is widespread corruption and they may just be looking to try and set such a prescdent with this case
but the case will not be settled for a very long time anyways
You clearly forgot the fact that in the USA, DMCA does not allow you to bypass encryption to make your backup. This modchip bypasses encryption and is thus illegal. There is no exception for video game consoles.
 
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