Shenmue III E3 2019 trailer and Epic Games Store exclusivity

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  1. wurstpistole

    wurstpistole I got 8 warning points

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    Sheesh. Glad I chose ps4 as platform when I backed it. Had I chosen steam, I would now get epic. That's misleading customers
     
  2. Essasetic

    Essasetic Your local TX Fanboy

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    2d5e5eb.

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    You might want to update the article with the response they've given and the fact they're refusing refunds.
     
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  3. Silent_Gunner

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    Can't wait to roast these guys by comparing them to Bloodstained's situation...
     
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  4. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my posts...it's over 9000!!!

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    however it was decided together with deep silver after much discussion and after we were paid a shitload of $ that the epic games store would be the best distribution platform option. the rest of the translation we have your $ fuck you no refunds :creep:
     
  5. eriol33

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    I don't mind epic games, but too bad they don't offer currencies other than dollars
     
  6. FAST6191

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    Basic features or largely irrelevant features that can be trivially replicated, for free too? Purchasing options wise then new day, same as the old day -- if things are not objectively worse then meh. On devs then making omelettes requires you break a few eggs.

    Fair enough. I would agree entirely Epic's pro dev stance is tissue thin, possibly even more so than Valve's similar claims, and completely self serving, same as every company ever really. That move linked there was a dick move if it played out as the headline describes.

    I am familiar with gamers being more than happy to take those providing the games, journalistic coverage of said same, reviewing said same, doing dubious practices and more to task, and them being aware of it, however this anti Epic lark seems misplaced at best and at worst may deny of one of the best chances in years to take Valve out.
     
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  7. Silent_Gunner

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    Man, are the Epic shills paid so well that they can afford to not hide their biases even subtlely?
     
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  8. FAST6191

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    I have disliked Valve's monopoly, censorious ways and approach to second hand games for years, never hidden it, advocated against them the entire time and put my money where my mouth is, or indeed not put my money anywhere near Valve. If a multi billion dollar corporation I have no stake in wants to declare war on another that is actively harming me and mine (I am really quite upset about the second hand thing, censorship not much better but there are easier workarounds there) and when the dust settles I am still going to have all the same games I would have had before (or near as does not matter), and said war maker is not going about it in a way that is anything other than bog standard business practices then how am I not supposed to encourage it? Why should we treat valve as a sacred cow when they offer nothing of great merit and cost so very much? If Epic knock out Valve and somehow manage to assume their place (doubtful with all the existing players that can spin up incredibly quickly, and more waiting in the wings) and start doing all the same shit then I will be right back here wanting someone to take out Epic.
     
  9. Bedel

    Bedel The key of the blade

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    As long as it works with the same PC, I see no problem with this. It's just starting a program or other, and the backers will have the game without any other payment.
    Don't blame Epic so much about this things. They offer some money and beneficts to the developers, and they are the ones who lastly decide if the game is exclusive for EGS or not. It is still better than consoles exclusives in some way.
     
  10. Silent_Gunner

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    And that last sentence is why that idea is counterproductive. Yeah, so if Epic takes out Steam, you'll be mudslinging at Epic now? And whoever's on top of the digital distribution dominance hierarchy afterwards? And after that one?

    Here's the thing: even if, say, there was a Second Gaming Crash (which I'm highly skeptical of, but let's hypothesize this scenario), and not even Valve could escape the devastating effects on the industry without becoming something else other than what you and I recognize Valve for: a game company that made some games, then jumped on the digital distribution bandwagon so early and became so successful that so many other companies' initiatives have failed or been inconsequential. In this doomsday scenario, people will still be able to play their games provided they configure things to run without Steam, as I'm sure many pirated versions of PC games do. Where there's a will, there's a way, and in the age of the Internet, people will come together to form projects in the aftermath.

    So no, I don't think Steam is doing anymore harm than what Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, or Google are doing to your physical ownership of games already, especially with how games ship incomplete nowadays and Google's wanting to make streaming standard even if it's a completely unsustainable idea in the US. At the very least, on a PC, you can always modify things to run differently if you run into problems, something that requires jumping through hoops on consoles to be able to do. SJWs censoring everything because they don't know a damn thing about how good they have it (or had it in certain parts of Europe)? Jack Thompsons will always be around as long as the politics benefit them and they can keep their corruption hidden from the rest of the world.

    If all hands are corrupt, I'd pick the one that's the least corrupt. And frankly, there's bigger issues in the world to be protesting anyways in the first place.

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas...ping-the-government-see-everything-1512056284

    Yeah, not so harmless now, are they?
     
  11. doomtrigger

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    Time for charge backs
     
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  12. FAST6191

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    If they act in a way I like then I will sheathe my sword until they don't. Taking a small cut to run a CDN and payment processor, all whilst leaving the censorship nonsense behind and allowing second hand games and we are good. I am content to have a top player if they are benevolent.

    Picking the least corrupt is an OK short term strategy. In the long term some turmoil now allows at least a chance something actually good will arise.

    As far as gaming crashes then I also can't see it happening outside of a societal breakdown. Games have been a part of life for people that are now grandparents. There will always then be some quasi open source or "made as a hobby/part time" effort that does the software industry thing of only having to press copy and paste a few million times to earn themselves the silly money. In the US crash that ultimately birthed Nintendo then games could convincingly have been called a passing fad in the eyes of the people with the money, same as any other toy fad -- I would certainly agree to a statement that computer games speak to something primal in the same way any story telling medium does and thus while the existing infrastructure may become bloated and collapse there will always be demand. It is also why I am not worried in the slightest how many billion dollar company corpses pile up in all this.
     
  13. Bedel

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    Lmao yes, still harmless. It's something not releated to videogames or this game by itself. Again: blame the devvelopers for choosing what you don't want, not the company for making a REALLY harmless offer to them.
     
  14. Silent_Gunner

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    Oh, the dev is going to be receiving the brunt of criticism, especially when there's a screencap of a guy who's refund was denied. This isn't looking too good for Kickstarter, and shit like not staying true to your commitments is why we can't have nice things.
     
  15. FAST6191

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    Refunds here are a tricky one. Kickstarter is an investment platform, or actually worse as you don't get a cut or a stake in the company (some crowdfunding platforms do offer such things), so any refunds are purely good will on the part of the developer. Beyond that I view lack of Steam support as a very dubious reason to be asking for a refund -- not entirely unjustifiable (though if they were good I am sure they would phrase it as we will try to get it on Steam in a form we can agree to thus giving them an out) but petty as all fuck.
     
  16. Memoir

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    Somewhere, over there!
    What's funny is that some of you defending Epic are the same ones bashing Ubisoft for their subscription and game streaming services. The irony..
     
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  17. Sevarg

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    The word on the street is that Valve is now so stressed about EGS that they've begun working on Half Life 3 and TF3: Battle Royale.
    Seriously though.. the fanboy-ism on here is absurd.
    Just download the damn game as both clients are sniffing your personal information either way.
     
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  18. UnobtaniumGamer

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    yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me
     
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  19. Edgarska

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    This is hilarious.

    By this point, if you back kickstarter games you deserve whatever you get in the end.
     
  20. Essasetic

    Essasetic Your local TX Fanboy

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    UPDATE 2: Deep Silver has updated the FAQ of the Shenmue III website to say it will come to Steam... eventually. Since the exclusivity period for the Epic Games Store lasts one year. It'll be unlikely that we'll see Shenmue III before November 2020 on Steam.

    https://shenmue3.deepsilver.com/en.html#faq
     
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