Hacking R5SDHC Run 18 Roms Video updated here!

[Joe88]

You could say that also about Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft there games are next to nothing to make but they sell at nearly £50.00 a pop here in the UK so the big boys themselves are as bad at ripping us all off as the flashcard makers themselves but personally I think Gateway card gives me a better product for my money than just buying 1 game!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop

 

[Danjal]

I think everyone is getting a bit ahead of themselves.

Nobody is "thankful" for the restricted usage. Nobody is saying its a "good development".
What is being said is that SKY3DS and its counterparts are currently the *only* cards that work on 4.5+ and more notably on 9.x versions.
UNLIKE the Gateway and clones, which are restricted to 4.x instead.

Should everyone rush out and buy a SKY3DS now?
No, infact most people will do best to wait the developments like what this thread is about to find out what the facts and limitations actually are.
That however doesn't diminish the fact that SKY3DS *DOES* work on the latest firmware...

Albeit with severe constraints (no homebrew, no regionfree, 'limited slots').


So there are basicly two main camps on this. One saying that SKY3DS is 'abusive' in that it puts constraints on a market that has gotten used to being able to do pretty much whatever it wants in terms of usage.
And the other judging SKY3DS on what it says on the tin and deeming that it does those functions adequately.
Is the card expensive? Yes. Will it drop in price as time goes on and supply/demand changes? Yes.
Will some of the cards restrictions be circumvented? Looking like that...
Will Gateway come up with a 9.x counterpart? We don't know yet, but its a safe bet they'll get there sooner or later.

So where does that leave people? You either have money to spare and you deem $9 per title for a 10-restricted card (which may or may not get unlocked) a fair price.
Or you do what everyone else here does and you wait for people to blow open the gates. (I say you want, since anyone with the skills and motivation to blow them open themselves will not be here debating this topic.)

 

[Reecey]

huh? unless you are talking about indie games, AAA titles cost 10s of millions of dollars to make. Destiny had a $500 million budget. If anything, they EARNED their pay through sweat and hard work.

I'm not on about the actual game to make I'm on about packaging them up for the shelves, it may cost alot to make in the first place but to package and send out after that is minumal.

 

[LurkerA]

http://www.instructables.com/id/R5SDHC-Card-Hardware-Review/

saw this post of the r5 looks identical to the sky

The exactly same PCB with sky3DS.

That video indeed have 18 games run but under an unstable status(something looks anomalously, actually the console had crashed for 4 times ..).

 

[Meteo]

I'm not on about the actual game to make I'm on about packaging them up for the shelves, it may cost alot to make in the first place but to package and send out after that is minumal.

no not really. marketing, licensing, and distribution can easily cost up 40% of the game's budget. Hardly minimal.

 

[Aman27deep]

no not really. marketing, licensing, and distribution can easily cost up 40% of the game's budget. Hardly minimal.

Not games, but drinks like coke and pepsi spend 10x on marketing than they do on manufacturing their product.

 

[RenegadeKid]

Gateway will support the latest firmware in their next big update and no limitations, so R4 and its crappy team can go to hell.

R4 has always had shitty support.

 

[Vappy]

Dozens of companies appropriated the R4 moniker, I really doubt this is the original R4 team.

 

[Duo8]

Gateway will support the latest firmware in their next big update and no limitations, so R4 and its crappy team can go to hell.

R4 has always had shitty support.

Sauce and sauce please?

 

[RenegadeKid]

Sauce and sauce please?

Here : http://gbatemp.net/threads/reply-from-gateway-3ds-about-support-3ds-v9-2-0-20.374127/

And look at this :

 

[crisshinto]

The exactly same PCB with sky3DS.

That video indeed have 18 games run but under an unstable status(something looks anomalously, actually the console had crashed for 4 times ..).

I dont have problems if i just have ten game at the same time,at the last i cant play ten games at the same time, my problems is the fact i cant change this games for another when i finish it!

 

[Steena]

Yeah, let's forgive the shortcomings of a modern flashcart and compare it with flashcarts that came out over a decade ago.

Next time I see someone criticizing a game's gameplay, graphics, audio or presentation, I'll counter "It's still better than what we got in the Atari 2600 days, so stop complaining and be happy!"

The funny thing with this analogy is that some very old games are still genuinely unbeaten in quality.

 

[wikili]

Dozens of companies appropriated the R4 moniker, I really doubt this is the original R4 team.

The original R4 team isn't dead since 2008 ?

Anyway, the interesting fact is the link for Sky3DS on R4 site : http://r4ds.com/

 

[Veho]

Ten games is actually fairly generous. A lot of older chips required the user to manually have to flash a new game each time. In this case, the price point may be high, but overall you're actually saving money. Assuming USD gaming prices, at $39.99 a pop, and multiplied by ten, you're paying near $400 USD. This chip costs around $90, so you're technically only paying about $9 per game. This chip breaks new ground because it gives people who updated their console an opportunity to explore the 3DS and what it has to offer - I know plenty of people who would love this, and the fact that its extremely easy to use makes for a decent competition if you're not able to use Gateway.

The honest truth is that a LOT of people are spoiled from the R4 era of flash chips - chips that held hundreds of games for a couple of bucks. The first generations of DS chips cost well within three figures and couldn't do half of what the chips today are capable of.

It's not that the card only allows 10 games at once, it's that the card only allows you to start 10 games in total, ever. Once you've started (installed) 10 games that's it, those are the only games the card will ever support. It's an arbitrary limit and it's bullshit, it's only there to make you buy more cards once the 10 games are up. Even the first flashcarts that could hold only one game had (in theory) unlimited rewrites, whereas this one has only 10. It's barely a flashcard, it's a custom 10-in-1 bootleg card.

With the Sky3DS you're technically paying $9 per game, and on one hand you're saving money, but at that price second-hand games are competitive and there's very little point in getting this (so-called) flashcard. Compare the $9 per game with the price of the most expensive flashcard, divided by the number of supported games.

I remember saving up $200 for a GBA flashcard, and (if I didn't have a v4.5 3DS) I would be willing to pay that much for a compatible, working flashcard if it was actually rewritable. It doesn't have to hold a hundred games at a time and it doesn't have to be cheap and it doesn't have to be drag-&-drop, but this artificial 10 game limit is just bogus.


Now I know I'm a cheap-ass pirate complaining about other cheap-ass pirates but tu quoque is not a valid counterargument.


And with Gateway releasing 9.x support soon, all this is moot.

 

[DragonSky]

And with Gateway releasing 9.x support soon, all this is moot.

Well it looks that you need the 4.5 firmware.
Or mayby with 4.5 you can just drag and drop and 9.x you got the 10llimit games system.

 

[Joe88]

Well it looks that you need the 4.5 firmware.
Or mayby with 4.5 you can just drag and drop and 9.x you got the 10llimit games system.

4.x isnt needed for their exploit
It seems it wont have anywhere near as many features as a 4.5 3ds though

We dont know if an 4.x 3ds will be needed to actually flash the new software to the card though