Hacking My System menu 4.0 install guide

[TiMeBoMb4u2]

I'm not trying to steal this thread, but I wanted to be sure that the people that are having issues running the update directly from Nintendo can easily solve their slow download problem by using Waninkoko's "Firmware Updater 4.0". With Waninkoko's method, you're not downloading anything from Nintendo.

See my super-easy tutorial here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=143482

Firmware Updater 4.0 IS downloading stuff from Nintendo servers
how do you thing you get System Menu 4.0 and required IOS ? Do you think Waninkoko created them by itself lol ?

I would assume that the Firmware Updater 4.0 is downloading the updates from a Teknoconsolas server somewhere. Waninkoko has patched the IOS's, and these are the ones that get installed. I don't think Nintendo would allow Waninkoko to store his patched IOS's on their servers! LOL!

 

[KongsNutz]

No all it does is download the needed files only from nintendos servers to run 4.0

IOS60, IOS61 and System menu 4.0

(this way you retain any ios you had already hacked on the wii)

the IOS61 and 60 are not patched using his installer, and that is why we do it like in my guide



NOTE: i prefer the full nintendo installer due to new games needing the ios files.

you can always use IOSdowngrader to get trucha back later anyway

 

[Jacobeian]

alright then so what are the downsides besides loss of starfall/preloader and those sorts of things

the main downside is that if you previously installed CIOScorp (or whatever .....ii guides) to run backup from system menu, it won't work anymore on 4.0
the reason is that IOS60 does not have the custom DIP module patched in so backup are not recognised by the disc channel

but it won't last very long I bet



a minor downside is that if you accidentally delete the homebrew Chanel and want to install it back, you won't be able to do it because the TP hack is blocked by the System Menu

 

[--=ZerO=--]

Is there a way to update my Wii without wifi?
I can't find a IOS60-64-....wad for my PAL Wii so far.

Does someone have a direct Download Link from
the Nintendo Servers?

This won't be illegal at all but send it via PM.

 

[TiMeBoMb4u2]

No all it does is download the needed files only from nintendos servers to run 4.0

IOS60, IOS61 and System menu 4.0

(this way you retain any ios you had already hacked on the wii)

the IOS61 and 60 are not patched using his installer, and that is why we do it like in my guide



NOTE: i prefer the full nintendo installer due to new games needing the ios files.

you can always use IOSdowngrader to get trucha back later anyway

Okay... So if this is the case, why does Waninkoko's ReadMe file say, "...Thanks to it you can keep some features like Trucha bug that affected first IOS versions..."? Wouldn't this mean that the IOS's are patched??

Just curious...

 

[Jacobeian]

I would assume that the Firmware Updater 4.0 is downloading the updates from a Teknoconsolas server somewhere. Waninkoko has patched the IOS's, and these are the ones that get installed. I don't think Nintendo would allow Waninkoko to store his patched IOS's on their servers! LOL!

it download the official IOS and THEN the aplication patches it on the fly... this is an opensource method introduced by patchmii/twiizers and is now used everywhere (CIOS installer, IOS Downgrader, etc)

patched IOS are not stored anywhere, this would be illegal for a website to host them

Okay... So if this is the case, why does Waninkoko's ReadMe file say, "...Thanks to it you can keep some features like Trucha bug that affected first IOS versions..."? Wouldn't this mean that the IOS's are patched??

Just curious...

this is a mistake
IOS60 (the one used by System Menu 4.0) is patched (exactly like what IOS downgrader do)
IOS61 is not patched (it's only used by the New Shop Channel, do not require to be patched, nothing indicates that Waninkoko downloads it ayway)
System menu is not patched (afaik)
Shop Channel is not patched (is it even downloaded ?)

you can see this as a selective update

I also prefer the official update ways preceded by a patched IOS60 installation
patched IOS60 won't be overwrite by the official update because the version number did not change

QUOTE

Is there a way to update my Wii without wifi? I can't find a IOS60-64-....wad for my PAL Wii so far.
Does someone have a direct Download Link from the Nintendo Servers? This won't be illegal at all.

there is no WAD on nintendo servers
you will have to download each part and put them into a wad yourself, which is quite risky if you don't know what you're doing
the download link is somewhere on these forums, search for NUS servers

 

[KongsNutz]

alright then so what are the downsides besides loss of starfall/preloader and those sorts of things

the main downside is that if you previously installed CIOScorp (or whatever .....ii guides) to run backup from system menu, it won't work anymore on 4.0
the reason is that IOS60 does not have the custom DIP module patched in so backuop are not recognised by the disc channel

but it won't last very long I bet



a minor downside is that if you accidentally delete the homebrew Chanel and want to install it back, you won't be able to do it because the TP hack is blocked by the System Menu

Yep........ don't be dumb and think before moving files......................however if you installed ios60 using this guide you can make a copy of HBC on your sd card
if you delete it from wii you can get it back.....take precautions if that makes you feel better.

but yeh that DIP module will be hacked again soon i bet

 

[TiMeBoMb4u2]

I would assume that the Firmware Updater 4.0 is downloading the updates from a Teknoconsolas server somewhere. Waninkoko has patched the IOS's, and these are the ones that get installed. I don't think Nintendo would allow Waninkoko to store his patched IOS's on their servers! LOL!

it download the official IOS and THEN the aplication patches it on the fly... this is an opensource method introduced by patchmii/twiizers and is now used everywhere (CIOS installer, IOS Downgrader, etc)

patched IOS are not stored anywhere, this would be illegal for a website to host them

SO... What you're saying is that IOS60 and IOS61 ARE patched by Waninkoko's Firmware Updater 4.0, correct??

 

[KongsNutz]

The IOS61 and IOS60 are not trucha patched using waninkoko's installer, you wont be able to install unofficial wads to SD and play them


NOTE: I'm currently in the live chat if you want my services haha

 

[TiMeBoMb4u2]

The IOS61 and IOS60 are not trucha patched using waninkoko's installer, you wont be able to install unofficial wads to SD and play them

So your patcher is the only thing that will allow unofficial WADs to be copied to the SD card?

 

[KongsNutz]

I didn't make the patcher.......but yes the installer will install IOS60 witha a trucha patch in it and that allows Hacked wads installed using wadmanager to copy to sd and run from there.

can delete from wii console after that too

 

[Jacobeian]

The IOS61 and IOS60 are not trucha patched using waninkoko's installer, you wont be able to install unofficial wads to SD and play them


NOTE: I'm currently in the live chat if you want my services haha

are you SURE about that ?
I know the readme does no tell anything but this would not be very logic

patched IOS60 IS required to keep trucha disc working in system menu so I highely doubt waninkoko did not patch it

 

[KongsNutz]

@Jacob

Yup i'm sure it doesn't, i dunno why he wouldn't but yeh it doens't patch trucha into ios60 at all.

tried it on my second Wii just to test and nup still needed ppc_gba's one

 

[Jacobeian]

ok, I see the point

there is an advantage to Waninkoko's one though

it does NOT install IOS16 and more generally only download required stuff to make the new System Menu and Shop channel work, leaving all the other IOS untouched, when the official updat e is modifying a bunch of older IOS

however, nobody knows yet what have been modified in the older IOS, maybe they have been improved (faster DVD access ?), maybe they just have been secured much (to prevent CIOSCORP for example ?)

 

[KongsNutz]

My thoughts exactly, all it does is install IOS60, IOS61 and system menu 4.0 as they are on the nintendo servers.


Maybe he didn't realise it uses ios60 for menu now........

 

[quepaso]

Wiikey 1.9s user here, NTSC-U console. I only had about 5 wiiware wads installed on the system as it was, so i loaded up the HBC and it asked me to update, which i did. Then i ran cISO36rev8 from waninkoko. Then i ran the new upgrade also from waninkoko. Everything went great. After install, HBC worked fine, and wadmanager 1.3 runs fine. I tried my Ocanara channel for cheats and it also works fine.

Now, whenever i copy a channel to the SD Card, it never boots them. I tried to move them at first, and it moves fine, but it never runs when you try to launch it, it keeps on saying FAILED TO LAUNCH. I deleted the gooey wad and re-installed it with wadmanager, and it worked fine on the NAND no problem. I tried copying it this time, and it worked if i had the channel on the NAND and the SD card, which is obviously pointless. So i deleted the channel from NAND and again, i would get the FAILED TO LAUNCH error message trying to play the game from the SD card. Tried 2 different wiiware games, same issue. Everything works fine off of the NAND, but obviously thats not what i wanted out of the firmware 4.0 upgrade.

Any help would be terrific.

 

[KongsNutz]

Wiikey 1.9s user here, NTSC-U console. I only had about 5 wiiware wads installed on the system as it was, so i loaded up the HBC and it asked me to update, which i did. Then i ran cISO36rev8 from waninkoko. Then i ran the new upgrade also from waninkoko. Everything went great. After install, HBC worked fine, and wadmanager 1.3 runs fine. I tried my Ocanara channel for cheats and it also works fine.

Now, whenever i copy a channel to the SD Card, it never boots them. I tried to move them at first, and it moves fine, but it never runs when you try to launch it, it keeps on saying FAILED TO LAUNCH. I deleted the gooey wad and re-installed it with wadmanager, and it worked fine on the NAND no problem. I tried copying it this time, and it worked if i had the channel on the NAND and the SD card, which is obviously pointless. So i deleted the channel from NAND and again, i would get the FAILED TO LAUNCH error message trying to play the game from the SD card. Tried 2 different wiiware games, same issue. Everything works fine off of the NAND, but obviously thats not what i wanted out of the firmware 4.0 upgrade.

Any help would be terrific.

We were just talking about this Jacob!!! LOL

@Quepaso

follow and use the installer in my guide on first page and all will be fine,

you only need to install ios60 using the installer

 

[Jacobeian]

Regarding to my las tpost and the fact quite all older IOS are also updated by the official update (including the addition of IOS16), I think I would do like this to be more secure:

1/ install cIOSrev8
2/ run IOS60 installer with IOS249 to patch the System menu IOS
2/ run Waninkoko 4.0 installer to get ONLY the new system menu, Shop Channel & IOS61 (for shop channel to work): IOS60 should not be overwrite since I already downloaded the last version


this way you get best of both world: I keep all my old IOS until someone REALLY analyse what has been added in this update and I have a System menu 4.0 with the ability to use fakesigned stuff

 

[WiiCrazy]

The point in Waninkoko's installer is,
It does selectively installs ios'es, it doesn't touch 9,12,14,14,15,17,21,22,28,31,33,34,35,36,254 hence keeping the trucha bug in them..

Absolutely it doesn't patch either ios 60 or 61 or the rest of the ios's it installs... so you need to do that afterwards to introduce the trucha bug again...

ps: need confirmation if it does installs stub 30, 50, 51

 

[KongsNutz]

yeh Jacob, that is a good way and the way i did my second wii.

i however want the new ios files since games will need em later.

maybe i'll add to the guide for 2 ways to do it.