Hacking Mario galaxy hack possibilities

kronicd

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Maybe they made a Dual Layer game, and the rip programs just rip the single layer or something.

Thats fine except people are saying it works with D2CKey
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Ok... Hardware check confirmed... not a disc check (unless d2c can fake disc identification in a different way).
 

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So how does the d2c work differently from the Wiikey, and can the Wiikey be updated to work in the same way?

http://www.d2ckey.com/features/intelligent...ing_system.html

A quick google gives this:

"Albeit easy to install, modchips that uses the serial port have some disadvantages. Due to the way they interact with the drive controller it is possible for the Wii hardware to detect them (they modify RAM, for example).

This way of modifying the Wii does not work with the D2C controller, because the serial port can no longer be used to inject or modify code.

D2Ckey uses a new approach we call the Intelligent Code Modifying System (ICMS). Instead of just uploading some code and then doze off, ICMS constantly monitors data on address and data buses, patching it if necessary. This has several advantages:

* It is virtually undetectable by the Wii hardware
* Improved reading of recordable recordable media
* Backup disc loading will emulate original game disc loading closer
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I would guess that, no, the current modchips CANNOT be modified to work like the D2CKey. Hard as it may be to install it may be the way to go.
 

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Super_Mario_Galaxy_USA_Proper_ReadNFO_Wii-PROMiNENT

NOTE: Now that the weekend is over, we had a chance to really hack this one. All props go to SpinXter for his mad skills. As for Nintendo.. owned again! Njoy this proper release.
 

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QUOTE([-BiG_W- said:
@ Oct 28 2007, 04:50 PM)]Super_Mario_Galaxy_USA_Proper_ReadNFO_Wii-PROMiNENT

NOTE: Now that the weekend is over, we had a chance to really hack this one. All props go to SpinXter for his mad skills. As for Nintendo.. owned again! Njoy this proper release.
wow, is this true?
 

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QUOTE([-BiG_W-) said:
,Oct 28 2007, 11:50 AM]Super_Mario_Galaxy_USA_Proper_ReadNFO_Wii-PROMiNENT

NOTE: Now that the weekend is over, we had a chance to really hack this one. All props go to SpinXter for his mad skills. As for Nintendo.. owned again! Njoy this proper release.

Source?

So far seems like BS simply because the .nfo would have included the group braggins about how the new detection worked and how they thwarted it. They also would likely have included a patch for the 1st release.
 

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Awsome, the D2Ckey hints to the fact that in the past with the PS1 that they were able to add additional wires to existing 4 and 5 wire installs to enable the chips to be smarter at when and when not to inject code into the PS1.

It sounds like this kind of intelligence is what we are now going to possibly need out of our 4-5 wire chips.

"A good example of the dangers with oversimplified chips are the 4-wire PIC12C508-based PS1 modchips that where very popular around 1997. First, Microchip, the manufacturer of PIC chips, made some changes in the manufacturing process, affecting the in-system clock. This was technically not a manufacturing flaw, as the fault was still within the tolerance specified in the datasheet, but the chips stopped working. If the 5th wire, a clock signal from PS1, had not been stripped (the 5-wire modchips still using the PS1 clock did not have any problems) then there would not have been any problems. Shortly after games appeared that detected active modchips - once again, a few extra wires would have enabled the chip to know when (and when not to) send data."
 

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Could it be that D2CKey is patching the copied games differently to Wiikey and Wiifree?

My initial theory was that rawdump only dumped the previous wii games correctly, it probably dumps Galaxy fine too but is not dumping over a certain code? However, this must mean it won't work on D2C...but what if D2C is programmed to overwrite that code when booting the game.

Im not use to the actual terms and such but hopefully you understand in what i am getting at.
 

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So... to sum it up. The game works on D2CKey, but there is no current way that it can be played with Wiikey?
 

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lol nawz you just joined gbatemp. ya i am wondering y its working on d2ckey. i think if we give it a few more days we will be able to play it on a wiikey.
 

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