FIRST OF ALL, NO WHINERS,TROLLS OR CRY BABIES. Keep this a discussion about Mario galaxy hacking; respect all ideas. WE should compile a list of all possible hack techniques so people with iso's can try them. First thing is DONT use the mario galxy update until we gather enough info. What we know: =mario galaxy doesnt show intro screen without updating (similar to mp3) =Hacked wii's can reach intro screen but on boot it fails. =intro screen is the inter mingling between disk code and firmware code,Firmware can read region+disk id, firmware runs the intro program,intro program needs some firmware code(see mp3's 10% hack), intro program boots main binary. =Code is encrypted on wii disks except disk info and partion table. =moded wii's get the 001 error but can still run the game =other backups run fine, not mario galaxy (game id check? or is it intro code) Conclusions: Modchip detection is during the firmwrae - intro communication stage update controls some of this communication steps to take: replace intro screen code withanother games intro screen: =find intro screen code section in mario galaxy + other game =transplant code. This hack may not work after mario galxy update since if it detects mario galxay game id; so change the id since the firmware start the disk check with only mario galaxy. Please add more ideas, iso people please help implement these hacks.