omgcat said:
this is some low-brow mouth breather level bait. you're legitimately trying to compare a wall less than 2 miles long, actively patrolled by capitol police to a wall to one that would be 1,954 miles long. that's almost 2000 times larger, and like 6 feet taller across the entire length. the fact your would even try to make that argument seriously speaks to your level of critical thinking skills.
Yeah, because it takes so much internal knowledge to see someone scream about walls not working yet then go build walls.
omgcat said:
also, a non-edited headline for the caravan is
"Incoming Biden administration to migrant caravan: Don't come, you won't get in immediately".
Honduran's seeking asylum would need to wait for the Biden administration to set their immigration policies. that takes time, and we are in a fucking pandemic so they are probably safer waiting until vaccines are distributed.
for context:
The Biden transition official, however, warned migrants against coming to the U.S. during the early days of the new administration, telling NBC that while “there’s help on the way,” now “is not the time to make the journey.”
“The situation at the border isn’t going to be transformed overnight,” the official told the outlet.
“We have to provide a message that health and hope is on the way, but coming right now does not make sense for their own safety…while we put into place processes that they may be able to access in the future,” the official said.
These people are at the Honduras-Guatemala border, they are 4000+km (2485+ miles) away from the USA-Mexico border, traveling on foot. it will take them months to even get to the US border.
also it's like 10k people which is fine cause 400k Americans have died to covid so we have some more room.
Jesus clearing the bullshit is tiring.
So when Trump denies migrants entry it's wrong, but when Biden does it you make excuses. Got it.
djpannda said:
Hey I feel bad.. you wrote all that
but just one picture. Made your argument invalid..
If you ever have anything serious to say please do. I'm not sure why you're allowed to simply troll other members and post memes as when Conservatives on this site do that to Liberals their posts are deleted.
Cryoraptor said:
No, that's Trump's wall. Biden doesn't get into power until Wednesday, remember? I'm getting sick of your pathetic attempts at propaganda. It reminds me of some morons on twitter 4 years ago just after Trump was elected blaming him for bombing Syria, even though he had only been elected some days ago and couldn't possibly have given orders to bomb Syria at this time. No, those were Obama's bombs. You would have hypocritically laughed at that, so don't do the exact same bs please.
No, those walls are being erected to prevent protesters from interfering with Biden's inauguration by restricting access to public property. Though you make a good point. For the next 6 months of so the recovering economy will be be thanks to Trump. We'll have to wait about 6 months until Biden fucks it all up. However, that doesn't change the fact Biden's inauguration is the reason behind the capitol fencing. It's being built for the people who claim "walls don't work".
That's not an opinion... It's a fact that Republicans were lied to! Get over it!
There's a reason for the
hundreds BLM protests and riots and there's a reason for the
single DC protest and single riot. Whether or not you agree with each happening is your opinion, not fact. You believe one is justified and the other is not. Some people think the DC protests were justified and the BLM were not. Some people think both weren't justified and that includes me. Some don't even care. It's all simply opinions not fact. Though I understand. It's taken your side almost 4 years to realize facts are what matters so I understand you're still getting opinions mixed up with facts. Your side are slow learners after all ...
Uhmm... So hang Pence and kill Pelosi was just part of a song or a joke that they kept screaming? Your an idiot, wake up and stop being so ignorant!
Actually you're right. There were a few people out of the couple hundered that were posting and saying these sorts of things. Although, they didn't represent the entire few hundred people (out of the original 100,000+). They were a small fraction of the minority.
So video evidence of them saying that isn't enough proof for you? Again... Your ignorant!
See above.
Maybe because people didn't die in BLM and because they aren't attacking the democracy of America... Again ignorant comments from Weiner boy!
People were dying every week since the BLM riots started back before summer. Much more people have died in the BLM rioting all of this last year compared to the 3 or 4 from the single DC riot. I honestly haven't kept count, but it seems after a
quick search @Hanafuda was able to find a few of them.
Do you not realise how ridiculous it is to attack the actually democracy of America... Your pretty much going against democracy because a proven liar is telling everyone that he won when he can't even prove it in court. Trump is going against democracy and trying to get everyone to go against democracy as well... This country is made on democracy. Trump would turn it into Russia or China. Ignorant!
In his and their eyes the election was rigged and it could have been. They believed they were doing the right thing just like the people who support BLM believe they are doing the right thing. It boils down to personal opinions and if you agree with either cause. I don't agree with the hundreds of BLM protests or the single DC protest.
Also don't forget, the current president is still Donald Trump so if anyone is putting up "walls" it's still under Trumps presidency. Other then the clear fact that it's actually a fence.
Brick Detention Cells vs Metal Cages. Fence vs Wall. They are all barriers to keep people in or out and they do work. Also, the walls are being erected for Biden not for Trump.
One side doesn't want police brutality.
The terrorists that went to to the capital was not.
Tell me, did any of the BLM protestors place bombs?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/06/dc-protests-trump-rally-live-updates/
Did any of them outright want to kill government officials? The two sides are not equivalent in the slightest
There's no difference between killing normal citizens compared to kill government officials. The BLM protesters also had lots of explosive devices that were actually used against people they didn't agree with and the police. They had Molotov cocktails and other improvised incendiary devices (such as napalm) they were throwing at others, which a lot resulted in the victims being severally burnt or even killed. The rioters in Portland just a couple of weeks ago were attacking the police with such devices. The difference between the BLM devices and the two pipe bombs found in DC is that the pipe bombs weren't used.
Yeah sure, "kill Mike Pence" definitely doesn't mean that they were out to kill.
Just casually chanting it like a normal angry mob.
perhaps they really wanted tea time with Mike Pence.
Actually, you are sorta right about this one. A few rioters out of the few hundred that broke off of the main 100,000 people protest did indeed call for harm to become various political members. So I was wrong.
Why should I?
Again, one side fucking planted bombs, one didn't.
Also where it was planted also matters.
The difference is the bombs weren't used compared to the BLM riots where many devices were used to mame and kill.
Oh I'm sorry. I forgot. I actually care about democracy. Perhaps killing democratically elected leaders, is somehow. idk undemocratic. OH, and before you try to state, since I've heard this defense before
"Well you see, they didn't kill any leaders. so it couldn't be proven"
explain again why pipe bombs were placed in the capital? Idk about you but that shows explicit intent.
Also, if your going to argue "well it was just one person"
considering the size of the group, and how many where in there, it doesn't take much to realize that would mean a fuck ton of people were complicit with the idea of bombing elected officials
Edit: would of found a normal video from say, youtube. but finding the footage, and let alone digging out the part I was looking for specifically, is a rather challenging thing to do
I am considering the size of the group. There were 2 pipe bombs and 100,000 people and to this day no one knows who placed those pipe bombs. The bombs were found and disposed of. Now if you contrast that to the BLM riots and how many Molotov cocktails and napalm containing devices were actually used a couple of pipe bombs that didn't even go off don't even compare.