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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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So what's your point? Why you posting all of these links without explaining your opinions or point of views?

because you asked for them.

This is completely FALSE! Their is only a 7 foot fence that is installed. Where do you get this shit... And your video doesn't show anything but a vehicle turning in circles.... Another ignorant imbecile spreading false information.

The source is a CNN correspondent. Take it up with him.
 
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I don't think you understand how this works; anyone in Politics knows they have a limited time.

Nobody has any delusions of continually winning because of the cyclical nature of Politics.
Even Presidents limit themselves to 1-2 major things they can actually get done in 1 Term.

The current senior members of the Party spent most of their professional lives setting the stage for the last few years and they will be well compensated by their benefactors.

Your current score tallying means nothing because the scope of their work was for the last few years.
Like I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if this Term is the time most will bow out and open that Golden Parachute.

I really don't understand why I even need to explain this, but if your analysis is this shallow then maybe it's best to stick to that 1-Dimensional Checkers.
 

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Old news. They're replacing that 8ft fence with a much more serious 12ft one now.

https://twitter.com/petemuntean/status/1349859915574206467

They are installing concrete dividers, not a "12 foot wall". There are also no pictures as of 30 minutes ago showing anything that appears taller then 8 feet.

The "Crane" that you can see in the tweet video is used to grab and install concrete dividers... That's what that "clamp" is used for at the end of the boom.
Compare the stills to the following pictures below them.

Also don't forget, the current president is still Donald Trump so if anyone is putting up "walls" it's still under Trumps presidency. Other then the clear fact that it's actually a fence.

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this country needs a stronger leader, not some old geezer that seems a bit wimpy. I am not saying we should keep trump though, that guy is a loose cannon.

What may physically appear wimpy to you, may end up surprising you. He probably has bigger balls then trump and is ready to stand firm against Russia, China and North Korea unlike Trump who was too pussy to cross them. Trump rather retreat then stand his ground in other countries to support peace and to support DMZ's. All Trump does is RETREAT and builds a wall around himself. He's a fucken pussy! So yeah I believe President Joe Biden will be 10 times the man Trump is and ever will be.

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You call tell Biden is love by the People when he needs a freaking army marching and setting up walls on what I'm calling now Fortress DC
Trump never call the army to march for him in DC
4 years of the Biden dictatorship will be interesting

Ohh hello, this must be Tabzer or shamzie with a new burner account. Lol
Your ill informed... Trump is still president so Biden cannot order the army to do anything and he cannot tell anyone to build those fences... This is all done while Trump is still president.By the way, Biden is not a dictator, you may actually be pleasantly surprised that President Joe Biden will do more for America, than Trump has ever done in his whole life. Stop watching fake FOX news and stop being so ignorant.
 
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Considering we know that some of the capitol police officers let insurrectionists just waltz through the front gate, screening procedures should've been in place from the beginning.
Ehm? On a crowd? You chinese by any chance? ;)

edit: Ah sorry - misunderstood.

But still partly false.

Insurectionists used reverse psychological tactics to breach police lines pretty quickly, and the capitol police _was_ understaffed, thanks to our beloved allseeing three later agencies, that didnt see that one coming - again.

So for that case, the procedure is to 'retract' anyhow. (Stand firm until the people are in the tunnels.. ;) )

And by didnt see it coming I dont mean 'do screenings on people attending demonstrations'.
 
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This isn't comprehensive, took about 10 minutes. If you were following the news when these things were happening, you'd know about and remember the events I'm referring to. Although there was one event where a young man trying to defend his store was beaten quite apparently to death. And by that I mean head stomped, limbs pointing in all the directions, etc, left unconscious and laughed at by the perps. But I was surprised to find out while pulling up these links that he survived. I couldn't find details about his condition ... could be paralyzed for life, could be brain damaged. But he didn't die.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/minneapolis-protest-body-found/index.html

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_d482138c-0224-5393-bd87-9898bebb3fd1.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-officers-shot-st-louis-las-vegas/3122564001/

https://apnews.com/article/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/us/detroit-man-shot-protests/index.html

https://web.archive.org/web/2020060...ce-officer-fatally-shot-in-oakland-identified

https://www.kqed.org/news/11822469/george-floyd-police-violence-protests-curfew-bay-area

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article243230041.html

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...t-name-2nd-person-killed-released/3155832001/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...good-accused-killing-bystander-looting-cicero

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020...ves-matter-protesters-trump-tower/5312668002/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-injured-shooting-seattle-autonomous-zone/story?id=71363286

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/cr...0200713-jcm5oyjca5fz5kge4qtlhh7dnu-story.html

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/04/michael-forest-reinoehl-protest-fatal-shooting-self-defense/

I took the time to read every single link you posted...
First of all, all of the deaths except for one are black and brown people.

The majority of the deaths are from unknown killers, so you cannot say that these are due to BLM protesters cause it could very well be from the far right groups.

One person that was caught killing a black person in the streets during a riot was a young White person that is now in jail.

The white woman who was killed at night under a bridge had an altercation with some blacks where her husband pulled out a gun on them, she was later shot in a second altercation with the same people.

The older retired police officer was shot dead as he was "protecting" a local pawn shop from looters at night.

There is no proof that any of those shootings are related to the peaceful protests that took place during the day. What took place at night was NOT BLM because there was a curfew and BLM people were following Floyd's family's request and are mostly law abiding citizens. The people that committed those crimes were just random people... Not to be assossiated to the BLM just because they are either black or whatever stupid opinion you may have.

Now in regards to the Capitol riots, all of that violence where they beat cops and broke everything inside the capitol and chanted hang Mike Pence and chanted kill Pelosi where they also killed a Capitol police... This all happened in the day, this all happened with these Trump followers... This is all filmed and these people have mostly all been or will be arrested.

So please, don't try to assossiated or relate BLM peaceful day protests to the illegal shit show that tried to disrupt and destroy our democracy inside the capitol.
 
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.... In other news...

Russia follows US in withdrawal from Open Skies Treaty compounding the challenges faced by the incoming administration of president-elect Joe Biden.

Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-leaves-open-skies-treaty-e58019b80ae95e12007265aedfac229b

White Army vet charged in shooting Black girl at Trump rally

Source: https://apnews.com/article/race-and...y-des-moines-18c07e4efae400f2ebab63ee052f6c57

Twitter suspends US congresswoman over election fraud claims


Source: https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...eorgia-media-782684cf4bbe2bf1b5ac0963ffe6957d

Mexico says US ‘fabricated’ charges, releases evidence


Soutce: https://apnews.com/article/mexico-e...-trafficking-a54eb46084fd31fa06f5a840eafafa86


From Baked Alaska to a guy with horns: notable riot arrests.
More than 125 people have been arrested so far on charges related to the violent insurrection led by supporters of President Donald Trump at the U.S. Capitol

Source: https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...-media-riots-709fca95f4e3dce9e40c440d96dcd006


.... All during Trumps last days...
 
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Under the pressure of Mexico’s implicit threats to restrict or expel U.S. agents, U.S. prosecutors dropped their case so Cienfuegos could be returned to Mexico and investigated under Mexican law.

Yeah, how ridiculous is this. I don't know if this has anything to do with Trump, but man... *facepalm*

And the last part:

“It was preordained that Mexican justice would not move forward with prosecuting General Cienfuegos,” Vigil said. “It will greatly stain the integrity of its judicial system and despite the political rhetoric of wanting to eliminate corruption, such is obviously not the case. The rule of law has been significantly violated.”

Wtf...

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This one is better explained actually :

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexico...rug-trafficking-is-faulted-by-u-s-11610839780
 
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I mean who would have asked David Cameron if he ever fucked a pigs head
That's pure speculation and most likely not true.

ukip, whatever farage is calling his party today
Farage is not far right. UKIP is bordering on far right now because he left and it was taken over by loonies. Brexit Party cannot be far right by definition because it's the Brexit Party and doesn't comment on anything else.

Tories are a joke, but they are a right wing joke (as right wing parties are)
*A centre-right joke.

Depends how you define left and right.
Both American parties are right-wing in the sense that they support military aggression around the world.
Furthermore both reject healthcare for all, as we have just seen. Even AOC and Sanders reject it. It has always just been virtue signaling to get votes. (see "force the vote")

In the UK both Torries and Labor are left-wing with regards to immigration. Didn´t Boris Johnson basically invite millions of Chinese? This would be unheard of the other way around.
This is why the concept of a solid left wing and right wing begins to break down in the modern day. There's also the issue that everyone likes to think they are closer to the centre than they actually are, so where a party stands on the spectrum is also somewhat subjective. As I've said above, the Conservative Party is centre-right, but you'll have people like smf swearing blind that they are strongly right wing. Spoiler alert, they aren't strong right at all. Of course, its exact position on the spectrum changes a bit with every new leader, but it generally stays within the realms of centre-right.

Oh, it seems they've erected a wall around the Capitol. That's sorta weird considering the left claims walls don't work.
No, that's Trump's wall. Biden doesn't get into power until Wednesday, remember? I'm getting sick of your pathetic attempts at propaganda. It reminds me of some morons on twitter 4 years ago just after Trump was elected blaming him for bombing Syria, even though he had only been elected some days ago and couldn't possibly have given orders to bomb Syria at this time. No, those were Obama's bombs. You would have hypocritically laughed at that, so don't do the exact same bs please.

He probably has bigger balls then trump and is ready to stand firm against Russia, China and North Korea
No, no, no. Trump was the one who started an economic war with China and is losing it because he stood firm against China. If you're expecting Biden to come out and publicly condemn those countries, you'd be badly mistaken. No sane leader would do that because it's terrible for diplomacy and the economy. If he's smart, he'll look to strengthen economic ties with both Europe and SE Asia in the fallout of COVID so that China doesn't move even further into those places than it already has. Also, Trump's moves with NK were good. Encouraging a better relationship between the west and NK is good. Yeah, it might be the worst shithole on the planet, but you just can't come out and say that. As a world leader you have to look to build constructive relationships as much as possible, and never be the aggressor. If you publicly condemn countries and other world leaders, you are a bad leader and you're taking your country into a cave. Ironically, that's what makes Trump such a bad politician; he comes out and says whatever he feels like saying. As a president, you shouldn't do that. Soft power matters, and the Chinese understand that. As much as he's an evil dictator, you have to give credit to Jinping; he's a political genius when it comes to using soft power. He knows how to play someone as flawed as Trump to his advantage. And, to be honest, Trump has done a lot of the work for him; many countries have distanced themselves from the US and are now looking to China as a reliable partner because of Trump. Hopefully, Biden and Harris are smarter than Trump is and do what they can to get back that trust and confidence that the US has lost.
 

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That's pure speculation and most likely not true.

I think you misunderstand what speculation means. Someone didn't say "I think this happened" they claim to have seen photographic evidence.

I don't know how to calculate a probability of it being true.
 
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omgcat said:
this is some low-brow mouth breather level bait. you're legitimately trying to compare a wall less than 2 miles long, actively patrolled by capitol police to a wall to one that would be 1,954 miles long. that's almost 2000 times larger, and like 6 feet taller across the entire length. the fact your would even try to make that argument seriously speaks to your level of critical thinking skills.

Yeah, because it takes so much internal knowledge to see someone scream about walls not working yet then go build walls.

omgcat said:
also, a non-edited headline for the caravan is
"Incoming Biden administration to migrant caravan: Don't come, you won't get in immediately".
Honduran's seeking asylum would need to wait for the Biden administration to set their immigration policies. that takes time, and we are in a fucking pandemic so they are probably safer waiting until vaccines are distributed.
for context:
The Biden transition official, however, warned migrants against coming to the U.S. during the early days of the new administration, telling NBC that while “there’s help on the way,” now “is not the time to make the journey.”
“The situation at the border isn’t going to be transformed overnight,” the official told the outlet.
“We have to provide a message that health and hope is on the way, but coming right now does not make sense for their own safety…while we put into place processes that they may be able to access in the future,” the official said.
These people are at the Honduras-Guatemala border, they are 4000+km (2485+ miles) away from the USA-Mexico border, traveling on foot. it will take them months to even get to the US border.
also it's like 10k people which is fine cause 400k Americans have died to covid so we have some more room.
Jesus clearing the bullshit is tiring.

So when Trump denies migrants entry it's wrong, but when Biden does it you make excuses. Got it.

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Hey I feel bad.. you wrote all that
but just one picture. Made your argument invalid..

If you ever have anything serious to say please do. I'm not sure why you're allowed to simply troll other members and post memes as when Conservatives on this site do that to Liberals their posts are deleted.

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No, that's Trump's wall. Biden doesn't get into power until Wednesday, remember? I'm getting sick of your pathetic attempts at propaganda. It reminds me of some morons on twitter 4 years ago just after Trump was elected blaming him for bombing Syria, even though he had only been elected some days ago and couldn't possibly have given orders to bomb Syria at this time. No, those were Obama's bombs. You would have hypocritically laughed at that, so don't do the exact same bs please.

No, those walls are being erected to prevent protesters from interfering with Biden's inauguration by restricting access to public property. Though you make a good point. For the next 6 months of so the recovering economy will be be thanks to Trump. We'll have to wait about 6 months until Biden fucks it all up. However, that doesn't change the fact Biden's inauguration is the reason behind the capitol fencing. It's being built for the people who claim "walls don't work".

That's not an opinion... It's a fact that Republicans were lied to! Get over it!

There's a reason for the hundreds BLM protests and riots and there's a reason for the single DC protest and single riot. Whether or not you agree with each happening is your opinion, not fact. You believe one is justified and the other is not. Some people think the DC protests were justified and the BLM were not. Some people think both weren't justified and that includes me. Some don't even care. It's all simply opinions not fact. Though I understand. It's taken your side almost 4 years to realize facts are what matters so I understand you're still getting opinions mixed up with facts. Your side are slow learners after all ...

Uhmm... So hang Pence and kill Pelosi was just part of a song or a joke that they kept screaming? Your an idiot, wake up and stop being so ignorant!

Actually you're right. There were a few people out of the couple hundered that were posting and saying these sorts of things. Although, they didn't represent the entire few hundred people (out of the original 100,000+). They were a small fraction of the minority.

So video evidence of them saying that isn't enough proof for you? Again... Your ignorant!

See above.

Maybe because people didn't die in BLM and because they aren't attacking the democracy of America... Again ignorant comments from Weiner boy!

People were dying every week since the BLM riots started back before summer. Much more people have died in the BLM rioting all of this last year compared to the 3 or 4 from the single DC riot. I honestly haven't kept count, but it seems after a quick search @Hanafuda was able to find a few of them.

Do you not realise how ridiculous it is to attack the actually democracy of America... Your pretty much going against democracy because a proven liar is telling everyone that he won when he can't even prove it in court. Trump is going against democracy and trying to get everyone to go against democracy as well... This country is made on democracy. Trump would turn it into Russia or China. Ignorant!

In his and their eyes the election was rigged and it could have been. They believed they were doing the right thing just like the people who support BLM believe they are doing the right thing. It boils down to personal opinions and if you agree with either cause. I don't agree with the hundreds of BLM protests or the single DC protest.

Also don't forget, the current president is still Donald Trump so if anyone is putting up "walls" it's still under Trumps presidency. Other then the clear fact that it's actually a fence.

Brick Detention Cells vs Metal Cages. Fence vs Wall. They are all barriers to keep people in or out and they do work. Also, the walls are being erected for Biden not for Trump.

One side doesn't want police brutality.
The terrorists that went to to the capital was not.
Tell me, did any of the BLM protestors place bombs?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/06/dc-protests-trump-rally-live-updates/
Did any of them outright want to kill government officials? The two sides are not equivalent in the slightest

There's no difference between killing normal citizens compared to kill government officials. The BLM protesters also had lots of explosive devices that were actually used against people they didn't agree with and the police. They had Molotov cocktails and other improvised incendiary devices (such as napalm) they were throwing at others, which a lot resulted in the victims being severally burnt or even killed. The rioters in Portland just a couple of weeks ago were attacking the police with such devices. The difference between the BLM devices and the two pipe bombs found in DC is that the pipe bombs weren't used.

Yeah sure, "kill Mike Pence" definitely doesn't mean that they were out to kill.
Just casually chanting it like a normal angry mob.
perhaps they really wanted tea time with Mike Pence.

Actually, you are sorta right about this one. A few rioters out of the few hundred that broke off of the main 100,000 people protest did indeed call for harm to become various political members. So I was wrong.

Why should I?
Again, one side fucking planted bombs, one didn't.
Also where it was planted also matters.

The difference is the bombs weren't used compared to the BLM riots where many devices were used to mame and kill.

Oh I'm sorry. I forgot. I actually care about democracy. Perhaps killing democratically elected leaders, is somehow. idk undemocratic. OH, and before you try to state, since I've heard this defense before
"Well you see, they didn't kill any leaders. so it couldn't be proven"
explain again why pipe bombs were placed in the capital? Idk about you but that shows explicit intent.
Also, if your going to argue "well it was just one person"
considering the size of the group, and how many where in there, it doesn't take much to realize that would mean a fuck ton of people were complicit with the idea of bombing elected officials
Edit: would of found a normal video from say, youtube. but finding the footage, and let alone digging out the part I was looking for specifically, is a rather challenging thing to do

I am considering the size of the group. There were 2 pipe bombs and 100,000 people and to this day no one knows who placed those pipe bombs. The bombs were found and disposed of. Now if you contrast that to the BLM riots and how many Molotov cocktails and napalm containing devices were actually used a couple of pipe bombs that didn't even go off don't even compare.
 
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Yeah, because it takes so much internal knowledge to see someone scream about walls not working yet then go build walls.
Your fixation with this is bloody hilarious because there is no comparison between a wall built to stop illegals getting into the country and a wall to stop terrorists.

You know fine well anyway wanting illegally into America can do it by plane or boat or by tunnel or in the back of a lorry or by a number of other means. All the wall does is make them go with some other option to get in.

The security wall around the capital has 20,000 National Guard troops protecting it. There is no time for anyone to built tunnels to bypass it. They can't use a boat or a lorry to bypass it. And any plane in unauthorised airspace will be shot down. The terrorists have no option other than to try get over it which will end with them being shot to death so to compare the both as you are is quite frankly insane.
 
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Your fixation with this is bloody hilarious because there is no comparison between a wall built to stop illegals getting into the country and a wall to stop terrorists.

You know fine well anyway wanting illegally into America can do it by plane or boat or by tunnel or in the back of a lorry or by a number of other means. All the wall does is make them go with some other option to get in.

The security wall around the capital has 20,000 National Guard troops protecting it. There is no time for anyone to built tunnels to bypass it. They can't use a boat or a lorry to bypass it. And any plane in unauthorised airspace will be shot down. The terrorists have no option other than to try get over it which will end with them being shot to death so to compare the both as you are is quite frankly insane.

Yeah, comparing structures meant to keep people in or out is insane. What I should be doing is comparing things that don't compare with each other, right?
 
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