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But that doesn't help if you didn't download a scrubbed iso does it?

I'm not being argumentative I just have several unscrubbed iso's.
 

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mestapho said:
But that doesn't help if you didn't download a scrubbed iso does it?

I'm not being argumentative I just have several unscrubbed iso's.

Then why not download Wii Scrubber and scrub your 1:1 ISO and place it in a compressed folder (as per the instructions in my post)? I'm not arguing btw, just merely pointing out that there is absolutely NO space saving benefits between storing a Scrubbed ISO or a cISO. The advantages to storing a Scrubbed ISO is that you can use it both for burning and the USB Loader.
 

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I'm looking to store my iso's on my pc in ciso format (to save space)
so if the hdd I use for my Wii takes a dump I'll have them all ready to reup on a new hdd.

I want to convert the iso's on my pc hdd to ciso.

So for this, WBFS Manager won't work (I don't think), as it only will recognize output to a wbfs drive.
I do use it for the management of my Wii hdd though. IMO the best wbfs utility available.
 

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This may seem like more work, but i have all mine in wiiscrubbed rar form. I use alex wbfs manager 3.0 which will automatically pull the iso from within the rar, there for saving me space and time from manually having to extract the games everytime
 

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phpgeek said:
I really fail to see the point in storing games as a cIOS?

Windows XP / Vista:

1. Create a folder called "wiigames".
2. Right-click "wiigames" and click Properties.
3. On the General tab, click Advanced.
4. Check Compress contents to save disk space and click OK.
5. Click OK in the Properties dialog to close it.


Right, now download a scrubbed ISO and extract it to "wiigames".

Congratulations!!

You now have a folder that will store scrubbed ISO's at full size but will only take up as much space as the original downloaded archive or a cISO (sometimes less). You can then use a WBFS Manager to copy them to USB / SD Storage device as normal or you can burn them to disc, again as normal!


It's true that there are some Scrubbed ISO's out there that are larger than ISO sizes installed to WBFS. However, most of these were compressed with older versions of Wii Scrubber and some contain the update partitions. If you remove an update partition from a Wii ISO (if present) and scrub it with the latest version of Wii Scrubber then you will be left with an ISO that will compress to more or less the same size of its WBFS (cISO) counterpart.


The benefits to storing a scrubbed game in a compressed folder is that it will take up no more space on your HD as a compressed archive or cISO, but you have the added benefits of the ISO retaining its legal size of 4,589,824 KB. This means that it maintains generic compatibility for burning a disc image (no padding required) and can be transferred directly to USB / SD storage using a WBFS Manager.

This leaves you to ask yourself the following question:

Do you want an ISO stored in a compressed folder that can be burnt to disc and used with the USB Loader, or do you want a cISO stored in a normal folder that can only be used with the USB Loader (unless it's padded out to 4,589,824 KB prior to burning)?

The question is NOT about space because neither method has any space saving benefits over the other. Zilch, zero, nada!!
I do see what you mean, but I don't have Windows....what do I do? Your method fails to actually solve the problem. It is just a workaround. And there is no real disadvantage to having cISOs, because if they become popular (I see no reason why they should not...they're convenient), programs will be made to burn them (filling in the empty data to make them 1:1 versions).


Wiinie said:
This may seem like more work, but i have all mine in wiiscrubbed rar form. I use alex wbfs manager 3.0 which will automatically pull the iso from within the rar, there for saving me space and time from manually having to extract the games everytime
This requires enough free space on disk to extract the ISO from the RAR into a temporary directory. A cISO is ready to be added to a WBFS partition already (if you use the correct wbfs manager/command line executable).

QUOTE(Vidboy10 @ May 5 2009, 08:37 PM)
To be Honest.
i think the Topic maker Should called the topic title "ISO to Compressed ISO converter" than we wouldn't have this trouble.
It is not my fault that the people here can not read and assume that I am a noob who does not know the difference between cIOS and cISO. Do not try to blame me for other people's obvious misunderstandings.
 

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Bapao said:
SpAM_CAN said:
Ahh... No. The WBFS system scrubs it, as you said. WBFS gets rid of all the junk code.
That's what I call "scrubbing".

Though WBFS does it automatically, Wii scrubber can make the image file smaller, but not by scrubbing it, since that makes it a rar file. However, "trimming" will do what you are asking.
 

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mikeyt1998 said:
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(SifJar)
he didnt say ios, he didnt say custom iso, he said ciso, meaning COMPRESSED iso. it takes the disc image and makes it smaller. i dont know whether its possible with wii yet or not though, or if it's just psp for now....

WOOOOW dont cry about it mate.

i never directly said it was a custom ISO, i was asking what a cISO was.

and if you dont know something, the process of finding it out is to ask what a cISO is.

ya'know, how cIOS means CUSTOM IOS, seems pretty relevant to me.

stop being a dick.
i was talking to spam_can, not you. dont cry about it. "ya'know" how i quoted him, not you. i hadnt even seen you post, because it wasnt there when i began typing mine.
 

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eric_4_life said:
Bapao said:
SpAM_CAN said:
Ahh... No. The WBFS system scrubs it, as you said. WBFS gets rid of all the junk code.
That's what I call "scrubbing".

Though WBFS does it automatically, Wii scrubber can make the image file smaller, but not by scrubbing it, since that makes it a rar file. However, "trimming" will do what you are asking.

I'm not sure what trimming is. A quick google search and I found this:
"Extra button for Trimming an ISO - this makes an ISO slightly larger than the indicated data size - USES TRUCHA"
in the feature list of Wii Scrubber 1.4. I am not sure if that is what I am looking for.

It is becoming evident that there is no such program at the moment.
 

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I used WBFS GUI 1.2.4 and it supports cISO images (compressed ISO). ie: the exact same files that the USB loader rip original games to, so you can copy the compressed game direct from the WBFS partition to your PC's HDD. Of course you can copy them direct back as well, so a lot easier than converting to ISO and RARring.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=148613&hl=prixm

EDIT: ahh I see you're already aware of Prixm's utility - no, there's no easy direct way to convert ISO to cISO as yet.

Now if only people would start uploading / sharing cISO images instead of 4.37GB ISO RAW rips, downloading would take a hell of a lot less time....
 

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I use the NTFS Compressed Folder in Windows XP with WiiScrubbed images on my hard drive to preserve disk space. Basically whatever Wiiscrubber reports for the disc image (minus dummy data), the filesize is pretty close to that on my hard drive.
 

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hey the "comressed folder" solution sounds very neat...

i have no wii-iso on my pc right now but when the next good game releases i´ll try this ,


ahhm is the copying into the compressed folder slower then copying a iso into a normal folder?
 

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goku21temp said:
hey the "comressed folder" solution sounds very neat...

i have no wii-iso on my pc right now but when the next good game releases i´ll try this ,


ahhm is the copying into the compressed folder slower then copying a iso into a normal folder?
using a compressed folder is an option. (which I walked away from for my own reasons)
but even if you are right ( copying file is slower ) it doesn't really matter if you do it once as burning them is the same speed.

R
 

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Noob guy here:

Does anyone know how to convert ciso to iso?

I got these files of a game in parts game.ciso.001
 

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That is a split archive. Use hjsplit to join the files back together.


The compressed folder option only works for iso's that have been scrubbed. If they are
an unscrubbed disc image then that method will not compress them at all.
 

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i found a few converters for Cso to ISO, however the file is in ciso not cso... does anyone know how to fix this?
 

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I have found a program that does this all the converting needed for Wii games:
Wii Backup Manager

QUOTE said:
Wii Backup Manager is an excellent program that can manage FAT and WBFS drives and convert between ISO, CISO, and WBFS files.The guide below will show you how to add ISO images to your FAT drive. The program splits your ISO images into 4GB as that is the standard size
I store my Wii files on a network share and cant convert it to a compressed folder like what was suggested as a fix, I also need the ciso format, to save space.

This program converted all my backups to the CISO format, and now I gained over 50% of my hard drive space.
 

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Troy's link is one solution, but it seems buggy. I decided to try it when it came out to install WiiFit+ on my WBFS HDD, and the drive ended up hosed and it had to be formatted again. For laughs I tried it again while putting the games back on, and sure enough, it hosed the thing again.

If you use it to do the conversions, don't use it for installing games to a WBFS formatted drive. I didn't test the FAT functions.
 

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