Homebrew Is there a way to play NDS on 3DS without flash cards?

[huma_dawii]

I guess the title says it all!!

Is or is there gonna be any way to let's say inject NDS to the 3DS? Without needing of a Flash Card!

Thank you.

 

[Ev1lbl0w]

Try to google "how to play ds games on 3ds" or look for it in GBATemp.

 

[CeeDee]

3Desmume emulator

 

[huma_dawii]

Try to google "how to play ds games on 3ds" or look for it in GBATemp.

I did, nothing but flash cards comes up.

 

[xJoelituh]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-3desmume-ds-emulator-for-3ds.430223/

But, it doesn't work on o3ds, and works laggy on n3ds

 

[huma_dawii]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-3desmume-ds-emulator-for-3ds.430223/

But, it doesn't work on o3ds, and works laggy on n3ds

My question is why to emulate it? If the 3DS runs NDS games directly? I don't understand, can someone explain?

 

[Deleted-379826]

Yep what was said above, only option is 3dsdesume

 

[Ev1lbl0w]

I did, nothing but flash cards comes up.

That's why. There is no current way to play DS games on the 3DS without flashcards.

Or, as they said, 3DSesmume. But it's experimental and doesn0t even have soound yet.

EDIT: Before you ask, noone has cracked TWL_FIRM (the thing that lets you play DS games) because developers know it's only going to be used for piracy.

 

[xJoelituh]

My question is why to emulate it? If the 3DS runs NDS games directly? I don't understand, can someone explain?

I'm not enterly sure about this but I think it's because DS games work on ARM9 and we cant do anything there (iirc)

 

[huma_dawii]

I'm not enterly sure about this but I think it's because DS games work on ARM9 and we cant do anything there (iirc)

Makes sense... I guess.

Thank you!

 

[Ev1lbl0w]

I'm not enterly sure about this but I think it's because DS games work on ARM9 and we cant do anything there (iirc)

Nope, they actually run in an ARM7. That's why people can dump the NAND on the latest version (11.0).

 

[xJoelituh]

Nope, they actually run in an ARM7. That's why people can dump the NAND on the latest version (11.0).

Well that then, thanks to correct me

 

[Ev1lbl0w]

@huma_dawii you're not the only one wanting DS games on 3DS without flashcards. This is a question that so many people ask, but even if everyone wants, someone has to do it. And that someone knows it's only going to be used for piracy. And they won't do it.

 

[nl255]

Actually you can but you are limited to download play demos. The problem is that pretty much commercial DS games are written to access the DS cart and that cart access would have to be patched so that it uses the SD card instead. The only pure software patcher I know of that does anything similar is Max Overload and you can bet that reverse engineering Max Overload and reimplementing it so it redirects cart reads/writes to the DSi/3DS SD card is not going to be easy.

 

[huma_dawii]

Actually you can but you are limited to download play demos. The problem is that pretty much commercial DS games are written to access the DS cart and that cart access would have to be patched so that it uses the SD card instead. The only pure software patcher I know of that does anything similar is Max Overload and you can bet that reverse engineering Max Overload and reimplementing it so it redirects cart reads/writes to the DSi/3DS SD card is not going to be easy.

Let's hope it happens! I do have a flashcard but not so happy about it.

Just wanted to know If there was a different method.

 

[Swiftloke]

Oh ffs another one?
@MarcusD has a very nice write-up on why it's not possible.
You do realize that people make new threads weekly asking the same question right? It's annoying af to us regulars.

 

[EmulateLife]

If you are willing to pay a little bit you can get a flash cart for $17 free shipping.

http://www.nds-card.com/ProShow.asp?ProID=149

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Let's hope it happens! I do have a flashcard but not so happy about it.

Just wanted to know If there was a different method.

Why are you not so happy about it?

 

[N7Kopper]

EDIT: Before you ask, no-one has cracked TWL_FIRM (the thing that lets you play DS games) because developers know it's only going to be used for piracy.

That's assuming that every single developer hates copyright infringement. Piracy really doesn't hurt sales nearly as much as people would think (if at all - most cases of piracy apparently happen with things that the pirate wouldn't have ever bought) It hasn't happened yet because people haven't figured out how to make it happen.

It's because, unlike the 3DS - which is OS-built from the ground up to run installed CIAs in the same way it can run ROMs to the point of being able to run cartridge-only titles as a CIA, or download-only ones as a ROM; the DS(i) isn't. Software needs to be run the way it was meant to be run, as simply redirecting reads isn't nearly as simple as it is with things like the PS2 or Wii.

 

[DustingtonZDX]

Uuummm... Buy DS games because they work on a 3DS?

 

[cooroxd]

What's with you people not wanting to buy and use a r4? It cost only $5-10; Goddamn cheapasses.