Homophobia Is Apparently Associated With Homosexual Arousal
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I know what it means. I've known gay people, such as someone in school I used to be friends with (I don't keep contact with most of my school acquaintances now), but I only found out for certain that he was after I left school. He was fairly camp though. One of the permanent supply teachers also turned out to be as well. I quite liked him as a person too, and I didn't stop associating with him after I found out, I just didn't agree with his orientation.30084pm said:I don't think homophobic means what you think it means, it's not like having a fear of spiders, where if there's a gay guy in the room you have to stand on a chair until you get a friend to catch them in a glass and release them outside.ProtoKun7 said:Technically, no.
Pardon me for having a different opinion, though.
umm technically yes. The dictionary proved you otherwise
That means at least one of two things. Either the dictionary is wrong or your application of it is.
QUOTE(BlueStar @ Jun 13 2011, 06:27 PM)
Not wanting to associate with someone, reguardless of how they act, do, say or whatever, but based solely on their sexual orientation is homophobia, if you like it or not. You probably know gay people right now - you may have been taught by them, be related to them, be a customer of theirs or whatever. Are you saying if somehow you found out they were a homosexual you'd stop associating with them? And by "found out they were homosexual" I mean somone mentioned to you that they happened to be gay, not that they turned up one day in a pink tank top and rolelr skates and started hitting on you.
Besides, this isn't supposed to be about me. Just because I have a different opinion to the majority of you does not label me as homophobic, because I'm not, no matter how many dictionary definitions you throw at me.
Now get back on topic.
Not wanting to associate with someone on the grounds of sexual orientation alone is about as simple as homophobia gets. And note that's different to just being annoyed by people who are overly loud and camp or behave in a manner you find inappropriate in public.
Maybe it's not everyone else and the dictionary that's wrong, maybe it's you?
And back on topic? I thought the topic was homophobia? What's more on topic than discussing what homophobia is?
You seem to do this whenever the topic comes up, post your opinion and then try to demand people don't call you up on it. If you don't want people disagreeing with your stance, don't make it. If you're allowed to think homosexuals are abnormal, people are allowed to think you're a homophobe.
Maybe it's not everyone else and the dictionary that's wrong, maybe it's you?
And back on topic? I thought the topic was homophobia? What's more on topic than discussing what homophobia is?
You seem to do this whenever the topic comes up, post your opinion and then try to demand people don't call you up on it. If you don't want people disagreeing with your stance, don't make it. If you're allowed to think homosexuals are abnormal, people are allowed to think you're a homophobe.
While I have a few Homosexual friends I have made it known to them that I'm not. What should anyone care what anyone does in thier own bedroom or place of choice for that matter as long as it is not in public view? I can see how homophobia can be linked to homosexual arousal tho.
I think homophobics don't fear gays, they fear themselves actually turning out to be gay.
I don't think your homophobic protokun7.
I think homophobics don't fear gays, they fear themselves actually turning out to be gay.
I don't think your homophobic protokun7.
That's what I say too... Still, what 'bout those that have uncle Ben touching their pants for fun? O.o431unknown said:
They can turn out homophobics too, I know a few cases
BlueStar: I already said, I didn't stop interacting with that teacher after I found out. I'm not wrong, I assure you.
And that is my opinion, which I have the freedom to state without being confrontational. By saying to get back on topic I was just saying that we should avoid any potential flaming before it starts.
And that is my opinion, which I have the freedom to state without being confrontational. By saying to get back on topic I was just saying that we should avoid any potential flaming before it starts.
You don't even take into consideration that your application could be wrong?ProtoKun7 said:That means at least one of two things. Either the dictionary is wrong or your application of it is.30084pm said:
A Gay Little Catboy said:
That is a case of parents not talking to their kids about sexual molestation and the reprecusions it can have menatally. I have a gay Uncle and I trust him with my son but if I ever found out something like that happened I'd be pretty pissed off. I also have an Aunt that married a guy that does that shit. I don't take my son around her because for some reason she decided to staty whith the guy after she found out.
At the same time, even with your own option you started your own flame war by not expecting people to say something about it. Even by reminding people, this is going to go on and end up like every single thread about homosexuality.ProtoKun7 said:
This is not directed towards ProtoKun7, this is a totally different part.
Honestly this shouldn't even be a problem, people only make homosexuality a debate or problem the same way they made women, Jews, Black, and even Muslims a problem. They need a scapegoat from the real problems, so they just grab a random minority and pick on them.
I've noticed that there's always a lot of gay topics here. People around here seem really preoccupied with gays. Not something I even think about. Anyway I think it would be fitting if the name here was changed from gbatemp to gaytemp. I like gaytemp and isn't it I'm proud to do gay things week?
A Gay Little Catboy said:
Exactly, tho I don't think ProtoKun7 is homophobic he is just stating his opinion. What do you want him to do? Go out and start asking people if they are gay and if they want to be friends with a straight man? You either have some gay friends or you don't.
That's just plain dumb --' This is supposed to be a website for Games... Thought there are society debates too... Gay themes are frequent because many countries are liberation gay marriage, and many cultures are starting to acdcpet gay people... That's the case of mine, thought elderly people still don't like gays, romenian, ucranian, etc etc, and in some cases, black people...blackrider said:
THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T LIKE THEM! There are some people that I think are disgusting, but I don't despise them... Well, it depends... Maybe I'd despise women that do abortions like it is a standard procedure --' There are case here in Portugal of women that go to hospitals for their 10th abortion... That's about mean!
That part wasn't directed towards ProtoKun7 at all, I should have made that clear, so I did.431unknown said:
As much as I don't agree with ProtoKun7, I don't see him as homophobic. He's not a bad guy, just a guy who has a different view than I have. Plain and simple.
Given that it's a teacher it's obvious you'd still need to interact with them, but if outside of that situation you wouldn't have because of their orientation, that screams "homophobia".ProtoKun7 said:
Well it certainly looks like this will be today's hot-button topic.
Guess we'll have to hang out here a while.
To my understanding "homophobic" has always seemed to mean "fear of gay people" (if you read the term literally)
Like if you hang out with them for too long you might "catch Gay"
Not precisely the same as not wanting to associate with them because of your differences.
If there is somebody down the street that you don't want to associate with because your viewpoints clash and tend to create arguments,
that doesn't mean that you're "afraid" of them.
It simply means that you've chosen not to involve yourself with them.
(Quite likely in the interest of peace. )
ProtoKun7 and I might not agree on the subject of gay people,
But I'm not going to label him as being homophobic for it,
any more than he's going to label me as being gay because I hang out with gay people.
Guess we'll have to hang out here a while.
To my understanding "homophobic" has always seemed to mean "fear of gay people" (if you read the term literally)
Like if you hang out with them for too long you might "catch Gay"
Not precisely the same as not wanting to associate with them because of your differences.
If there is somebody down the street that you don't want to associate with because your viewpoints clash and tend to create arguments,
that doesn't mean that you're "afraid" of them.
It simply means that you've chosen not to involve yourself with them.
(Quite likely in the interest of peace. )
ProtoKun7 and I might not agree on the subject of gay people,
But I'm not going to label him as being homophobic for it,
any more than he's going to label me as being gay because I hang out with gay people.
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