Homebrew Hey, can SNES games be played on the DS?(I'm new)

[blueconsole]

I'm totally new to this whole thing so I was wondering since we can play "DS" and "GBA" games on the DS can we also play other systems also? SNES, Genesis?

Thanks.

 

[Jax]

Yes, use an emulator.

 

[tijntje_7]

First of all, wrong place to post. It should be in ds emulation category

2nd Yes, it actually can.
3rd No, you can't emulate gba (without expansion pack/scdstwo/iplayer), nintendo 64, wii (lol), gamecube, or stuff like that
4th You can download the snes emulator from www.filetrip.net
5th You shouldn't ask for ROMs here

You need to find them yourselves.

 

[Rydian]

Yes, but emulation of the SNES is not very good on the DS. The SNES has a higher resolution so things look squashed or will get cut off the screen, the speed isn't very good for many games, and there's often graphical errors.

 

[blueconsole]

So we can add an emulator like ZSNES to the DS system and Snes games can in theory be playable? Same for Genesis and the like?

Is that the same method used for playing GBA/GBC games on the DS? Or is it something different.

Thanks.

Edit: Ok, got some questions answered. One last question, I know nothing about what "cards" to use and all that. Where on the site can I go to learn more about them, how they work and what they are all capable of?

 

[tijntje_7]

As I already said. GBA needs a different way to be emulated (err... English fail :/)
The DS is too weak to emulate the gba. It needs some kind of enhancement (like an iplayer, or supercarddsto. Or 2nd slot expansion packs)
The gameboy colour can be emulated the same way

Edit: Flashcart knowledge and stuff...

You should go to http://gbatemp.net/f40-nds-flashing-hardware-and-software
For more information on flashcarts. (Acekard is nice, used by many, also because they are cheap. R4 is fake, atleast those on the market atm are. CycloDS has awesome features (as far as i heard) but is expensive. Supercard is... pretty good I guess. The supercardDSTWO on the other hand is the best one on the market at the moment. More information on flashcarts is still obtainable from the link I gave you

Oh and all those thingy's ^up there, are in my opinion.)

 

[blueconsole]

thanks 7

 

[tijntje_7]

No thanks

I'm here to help people...
And to let people help me o.o
And to lurk for information

 

[Rydian]

Definitely do not get any R4 or anything with "R4" in the title, the original R4 team disbanded years ago and all that's left are clones.

An Acekard 2i will be cheapest ($16 on shoptemp.com) and play DS games and run emulators. An M3i Zero will add more features (like slow motion and save state to DS games) but costs more. A Supercard DSTwo has the best features, but is more pricy.

You wouldn't use ZSNES, you'd be using emulators specifically for the DS. There's stickies in the various forums here listing which emulators work best.

The only ways to play GBA roms on a DS are to either get a slot-2 (GBA slot) flash cart as well (and they tend to be a lot more expensive), or to get a Supercard DSTwo (which includes it's own additional processor on the cart in order to play GBA games), but the supercard's emulation isn't running perfectly (yet).

 

[Deleted-236924]

Definitely do not get any R4 or anything with "R4" in the title, the original R4 team disbanded years ago and all that's left are clones.

If you're recommending ShopTemp, then why not recommend an R4?
The R4 from ShopTemp can run Wood and are only $6.

 

[Rydian]

It's still limited to what the clone R4 hardware can do, such as only taking a 2 gig memory card (whereas the acekard and higher cards can all take up to 32 gigs), and even in the wood R4 releases, YWG has mentioned having to do tricks and such to bypass the R4's hardware limitations.

 

[blueconsole]

wow, thanks a lot guys

I'm thinking about waiting a couple of months after the 3DS to come out then getting one. I figure by then they'll have some hardware available that we could use.

 

[MissingNo._]

You can try using these links next time:
http://gbatemp.net/t31650-list-of-emulator...t-run-on-the-ds
http://gbatemp.net/t70364-ultimate-nds-slo...r-resource-list
http://gbatemp.net/t228898-list-of-emulato...ds-updated-2010
The very top one was updated last.

 

[Xarsah16]

wow, thanks a lot guys

I'm thinking about waiting a couple of months after the 3DS to come out then getting one. I figure by then they'll have some hardware available that we could use.

Do you have a DS (whether it be the old, bulky phat, the lite, or the DSi/XL?)

If yes, then I recommend getting an Acekard2i. It's cheap, (14.95!) and it supports almost perfect emulation of NES, Gameboy, and Gameboy Color games. It also supports Moonshell (media player) and a handful of other homebrew (user created applications.) Also, using the AKAIO firmware (Acekard-all-in-one), it is very easy to set up the Acekard itself and it is also very easy to navigate. AKAIO is also the way to go because it is one of the few major firmware with constant update fixing bugs.

The only con is that the Acekard doesn't effectively support SNES and GBA emulation because it lacks the additional power that the SupercardDSTwo has. At the moment, the GBA emulation on that is still a little buggy and the SNES emulator hasn't been released yet. It's also 34.95 - double the price of the Acekard for features that have great potential, but haven't been completed yet.

Waiting until the 3DS is going to be a long time. It was just announced at E3, and it is speculated to come out next year in Japan. The wait will be even longer for everyone else on the planet. Plus, because the system was just announced, we clearly don't have the hardware to start developing flash carts for it yet. The 3DS may be harder to crack, so we don't know which carts will be released.

 

[fearofshorts]

I personally think that the 3DS will be nearly impossible to crack (fully- DS mode should be easy enough)- I mean, look at the DSi. They loaded it with so much security that it still hasn't been hacked yet. It could take years and years, if they do it correctly.

Think of the Capcom Playsystem 3- that took nearly a decade to crack because of the encryption.

 

[Rydian]

I personally think that the 3DS will be nearly impossible to crack (fully- DS mode should be easy enough)- I mean, look at the DSi. They loaded it with so much security that it still hasn't been hacked yet. It could take years and years, if they do it correctly.

Think of the Capcom Playsystem 3- that took nearly a decade to crack because of the encryption.

Actually those were due to a large amount of people just not caring enough, so only a few people were working on it.

The DSi doesn't add anything notable except a camera and semi-decent web browser, and those two can be fully used without any sort of hacking needed. Yes, it's more powerful than the DS, but a PSP is much more powerful and can do many more things. As well, no DSi-exclusive games came out that were worth getting, so there's no big (team-wise) effort made on hacking DSi mode.

As for the PS3, at the start you were already able to run linux and homebrew, and it gave you tons of processing power and all sorts of the stuff a console usually needs to be hacked to get at. By the time it was removed, Sony had had time to change the hardware and strengthen the security in the correct ways, as most console hacks are due to hardware, or long-standing software vulnerabilities because of infrequent updates. Remember, most of the actual hackers (such as the team behind the hackmii blog) are not after piracy, just personal use of the console, and a majority were content with OtherOS.

 

[nutella]

As for the PS3, at the start you were already able to run linux and homebrew, and it gave you tons of processing power and all sorts of the stuff a console usually needs to be hacked to get at. By the time it was removed, Sony had had time to change the hardware and strengthen the security in the correct ways, as most console hacks are due to hardware, or long-standing software vulnerabilities because of infrequent updates. Remember, most of the actual hackers (such as the team behind the hackmii blog) are not after piracy, just personal use of the console, and a majority were content with OtherOS.

No, you have misread. He said CPS3, as in Capcom Play System 3 (don't worry, I read that wrong too, I was like, "Capcom didn't make the PS3"). In any case, like the other point you made, not many people cared for it so less people worked on that system (they were all MVC2 fans I bet). That's not to say the 3DS is going to be any quicker to hack.

But I digress. I don't know if anyone said this, but no, you can't use ZSNES on the DS. The emulator you're looking for is SNEmulDS, which you can find on Filetrip.net. Don't expect too much though. Like most people have already mentioned, there's a lot of audio and graphical errors, it's slow and has low compatibility. Games with SuperFX chips won't work (like Super Mario RPG and Yoshi's Island). If you don't know what a SuperFX chip is, don't worry, but all that means is that a lot of great games won't even load.

 

[Nobunaga]

well Just buy a DSTWO the snes emu coming soon and it can emulate gba games too withough any expansion pack