There has not been a CFW banwave since May of 2017, and the risk can be easily mitigated. It was probably custom CIA files and having certain sharing settings turned on that caused the ban.
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...well yeah custom CIA files, there you go which are required for CFW to work, no? And what sharing settings? PokeBank? SpotPass?
Apparently the ones getting banned are the ones that have modded their console, but Nintendo somehow found out, whether or not they actively have spotpass on for all pirated games or not or have gone completely off the grid.....or so I've read..... Has anyone actually demanded that they be unbanned or asked why they were banned and Nintendo answered?
And who's to say there won't be one in 2018 or even next year?
There was only one CFW banwave (in 2017), and it was detecting custom titles like FBI and freeShop, not pirated games. One was also highly unlikely to be banned with the Spotpass sharing and Friends List settings disabled. Nobody has been banned for these reasons since.
Ah so some people using external carts like Gateway or Sky3DS were safe from the ban wave? Aha - I knew the extra cost of getting these would be beneficial in that you wouldn't get banned! And some people snicker at the fact that you need to pay to get free games on your 3DS when you can do it all for free using CFW but at the risk of a ban.....
Isn't like FreeShop like dead now?
Then how come this guy or this guy says it's possible just for having CFW?
Well that's nice to know there haven't been further reports of banned consoles.....
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@lispoor, you can still get banned using 3DS flashcarts if you don't use a private header. Gateway 3DS doesn't work with the latest 11.8.0-41 firmware, so you can't go in online play with that. However, Sky3DS+ states that it works with 11.8. There's also Stargate 3DS made by the same company behind Gateway, which also supposedly works with 11.8 but with a broken DS mode and other caveats.
From that max forum (which cannot be linked here because it hosts copyright material) in that flashcart's official support subforum, a certain Stargate user nicely summed his experience:
While I can't comment this for Sky3DS, 3DS CFW users scoff at the poor customer service provided by the Gateway/Stargate team. Did you do your research about how people got burned by them from the intentional brick code and the Coming Soon™ dropped future support?
If the fear of a ban outweighs all the benefits of what 3DS homebrew has to offer, whatever we tell you won't change your already made-up mind in buying a 3DS flashcart. We can argue back and forward about all the wonderful and totes amazing stuff 3DS custom firmware can do, but I feel the effort and energy would be for naught.
Whichever 3DS flashcart you choose, just know good ol' 3ds.hacks.guide and Frogminer are there waiting for you in case you change your mind later. Happy gaming.
From that max forum (which cannot be linked here because it hosts copyright material) in that flashcart's official support subforum, a certain Stargate user nicely summed his experience:
T*****# said:
While I can't comment this for Sky3DS, 3DS CFW users scoff at the poor customer service provided by the Gateway/Stargate team. Did you do your research about how people got burned by them from the intentional brick code and the Coming Soon™ dropped future support?
If the fear of a ban outweighs all the benefits of what 3DS homebrew has to offer, whatever we tell you won't change your already made-up mind in buying a 3DS flashcart. We can argue back and forward about all the wonderful and totes amazing stuff 3DS custom firmware can do, but I feel the effort and energy would be for naught.
Whichever 3DS flashcart you choose, just know good ol' 3ds.hacks.guide and Frogminer are there waiting for you in case you change your mind later. Happy gaming.
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Oh, how do we ensure we use a private header...?
Yes......how broken is th DS mode? Can it at least play GBA games as touted too or is that too also broken a bit in some way? Coz I would like to get back into some old classics that were missed in the GBA era that I never got the chance to purchase.....and now they're either stupidly expensive to import or no one sells them anymore, at least brand new....
I thought it played nice with CFW'd consoles...? Maybe I haven't read enough or at least read an updated review or posts of people using it....
Wait what, has GBATemp gone clean now?
Well I haven't personally asked for assistant from the people behind Gateway and Stargate, so I have no experience with that....
I did read about the international bricking, wasn't that because some fake wanted to steal their shit and so they decided to brick everything that guy stole or something like that? It was a while ago when that too so memory is a bit fuzzy.....
I am not familiar with the "Coming Soon™ dropped future support", would you can to eleborate on that for me please?
Well supposedly you can't get a ban if you're ONLY using homebrew, but once you start going CFW or a mix of both, things supposedly gets hairy....If the fear of a ban outweighs all the benefits of what 3DS homebrew has to offer, whatever we tell you won't change your already made-up mind in buying a 3DS flashcart. We can argue back and forward about all the wonderful and totes amazing stuff 3DS custom firmware can do, but I feel the effort and energy would be for naught.
Whichever 3DS flashcart you choose, just know good ol' 3ds.hacks.guide and Frogminer are there waiting for you in case you change your mind later. Happy gaming.
What about Steelminer - the homebrew entry point I used to get in with......?
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You extract a private header from a real 3DS game cart. Get a cheapie donor game you don't care about it. You just need one. I don't know what program one uses to get that header and inject it into their 3DS flashcart. GodMode9 perhaps? Just don't go sharing your private header with anyone else as that can lead to a ban if Nintendo detects more than one occurrence of the same private header at the same time online. Also, *.cia games installed on HOME Menu don't have to worry about private headers.
In fact (more or less)
- [3DS rom] - [Private Header] = [CIA rom]
When used in conjunction with a 3DS that has CFW, the DS mode in the Stargate 3DS flashcart is broken. This is either by poor implementation of compatibility on their part or perhaps intentionally design to force a Stargate user to choose between flashcart or CFW but not both. You can read up on it at that max forum or at this discussion chain here; a homebrew solution was develop to bypass this block that should have been fixed by Stargate themselves.
Stargate can't play GBA games unless its DS mode is working. It supposedly does this through a patched version of the mGBA homebrew emulator. Even then... maybe you read that thread for yourself.
With custom firmware, you can natively play GBA games through Virtual Console injections made in NSUI or by emulator with mGBA. If you have a new series 3DS and while it's not perfect, mGBA emulator has steadily progressed to point you can now play most Pokemon games with little to no lag. I occasionally try F-Zero: GP Legend (a really fast rendering JPN game) on mGBA for shits and giggles stress testing; latest nightly allows the game to be playable with very acceptable FPS and hardly any dips.
GBAtemp's Terms and Service Rules under "Warez" found here.
What copyright materials they host:
To you, that may be a minor offense. We should be fine indirectly mentioning this depending on the degrees of separation, but try directly listing that link here on GBAtemp and tell the mods about it. See well how that goes, lol.
Your research should have turned up with these results (and several others):
The brick code was meant to punish 3DS users who used clones of the Gateway flashcart. The problem was that it also bricked some who used real Gateway carts. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't trust software written with malicious intentions. I think there are names that specifically describe these types of programs. Hmm.
Are you familiar with the "stability" running gag for 3DS firmware updates? Yah, there was a flipped side to that gag.
Gateway would answer the call in overcoming whatever anti-piracy protection Nintendo implemented in their firmware updates.
- GATEWAY: Release coming soon
- Gateway 3DS working on the New Nintendo 3DS.
- several other thread releases, etc.
Gateway users were left up high and dry being told an update was "coming soon" that would bring their cart to working order for the latest 3DS firmware, so they held on to hope that Gateway would pull through again. That update eventually came in the form of this:
You can get banned for being an asshole in online play or writing awful messages to others. You can also get banned for buying stuff on the Nintendo eShop and doing a credit card chargeback. These don't require custom firmware.
If you follow the 3ds.hack.guide's advice at their Get Started page:
..., don't cheat in playing online games (like using/having impossible pokemon movesets or stat points, or invincibility mode), and don't play games that haven't been been officially released yet, you should not get banned.
Use Frogminer instead, a free method of hacking your 3DS with full access CFW. It was developed by the same person behind Steelminer. If you can mine for steel, you can mine for frogs.
So basically I would need to have CFW anyways to ensure my use of the Stargate 3DS is unhindered by Nintendo?
Does it matter if the cheapie donor game is brand new or used?
What's the default header for the Stargate 3DS cart? I'm guessing it'd be public header.....of some donor game they've used?
So how come CIA games don't need to worry about private headers?
...ahh I see....where is this homebrew solution...and have the stargate team acknowledge this DIY solution?
AH, I thought their GBA mode was another mode on top of the already existing DS and 3DS, same maybe another key combination to switch to that mode....
...but isn't that their work and not someone else's...? Otherwise I'm quite confused....
Oh they even bricked genuine users of their own carts? Have they acknowledged that and provided a fix or basically went silent on that whenever someone would report to them that they used a genuine cart from them and that they also got bricked by their launcher.dat file?
Perhaps it was unintentional? I'm sure, I'm just trying to look on the positive side of all this....
....I am not...
And I'm guessing that's how CFW started...?
....well they did deliver...in the end.....
Well yes that is given, but I guess someone people are to dense to know this....
.....yes....
Might have to buy a new 3DS so that can be dedicated CFW'd one and if that gets banned, at least I till have another to play my games on......
Don't confuse custom firmware for the 3DS firmware as these are separate entities. It's not Nintendo hindering the usage of Stargate. It's that the Stargate's DS mode breaks when you have Luma3DS custom firmware. As for why this odd occurrence happens can be anyone's guess.
Any game will do. Just buy the cheapest 3DS game you can find and extract its header. Don't sell the game back as that would risk someone else using the same header as you, which would lead to a ban for both that person and you.
The flashcart doesn't come with a header. You have to supply your own header. Don't use a public 3DS header as that's asking for trouble.
I don't know. One would have to ask Nintendo why they designed the 3DS that way in terms of HOME Menu games. Perhaps Nintendo didn't believe anyone could hack their handheld.
I previously linked to you that GBAtemp post where a NDS/3DS dev developed a launcher app that bypasses the broken DS mode. As for the Stargate team fixing the broken DS mode / updating their flashcart's kernel, it's best you find out the answer for yourself at that max forum in far they got in doing that.
Nope. The game slot found on the 3DS has access to only the 3DS mode and DSi mode, which are native support (aka, running on real hardware). The 3DS does have a native GBA mode, but that's accessible only for games installed on the SD card reader (ie, HOME Menu titles).
How Stargate would play GBA games if it worked is through a reworked version of the mGBA emulator.
If you have been following the Switch hacking scene, you may have heard about Team Xecuter and their SX OS. What you may have missed was their shenanigans of borrowing open source code and not giving credit where it's due:
Here's where this team intentionally added brick code to their program:
What does Team Xecuter and the Switch has to do with the 3DS and Gateway / Stargate you might ask? Well, the people behind Gateway, Stargate, and Team Xecuter are one and the same group. And they say old habits die hard...
If you want to see how they try to pass off others' works as their own or without proper crediting, you only have to read their own thread to find out for yourself:
What's done is old history. Look in old GBAtemp threads and Google search the angry, sad testimonies of the many who were left with broken 3DSes because of the Gateway brick code fiasco. Many of those users probably ended up trashing their 3DS once their handhelds became paperweight; barring hardmod & soldering, those who held onto theirs had to wait until the miraculous arrival of the NTRboot method, which BTW did not exist yet and not known to be possible in their day and age.
If you believe in Hanlon's Razor,
you'll only find yourself disappointed giving a free pass to those who'll rip you off.
Don't take this the wrong way as flashcarts do have their place like the GBA's EZ Flash and Nintendo DS R4i series. For the 3DS system, this is not the case.
Most of those updates were for patching exploits and various obscure homebrew *hax entries.
The history behind the 3DS hacking scene was an interesting time of an arms race between Nintendo and homebrew devs. While people tend to ask which came first, "the chicken or the egg?", what they should be asking is what came before the chicken and the egg. Without getting too philosophical, you can catch up on what happened by reading:
Try telling that to the Gateway users who were promised a [software] update was coming. I'm sure they were really glad lining up to buy Stargate after all that waiting. Psst. They were not.
It has to be be said because people think they can play as God in online games once they have custom firmware. Something in their mind tempts them to bait normies into playing a losing match for the lol. All the power but no self-restraint in correctly wielding it.
Good. Then you'll have no problems using CFW if you follow those measures and guidelines.
Unless you get a console id ban for using a reportedly stolen 3DS or tried to screw over Nintendo in a deal gone wrong with a credit card chargeback, there are ways to unban yourself.
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I don't know how it works with the Stargate cards, but adding a private header to Sky3ds (at least the old red/blue button versions - they're the only ones I have experience of) it's just a case of obtaining the header from a legit game and patching the Sky3ds template file with it.
As far as cfw bans go... it's more likely you'll get banned if you run a CIA online that breaks street date (as with what happened with the Pokemon games that leaked early), if you run a modified/cheat version of a game online (like the hacked versions of MK7), if you have all your data sharing open and do dumb stuff like setting your favourite title to be a homebrew CIA like FBI. Bottom line; don't do dumb stuff online.
If you have the option of a flashcart, use that (header patched) for games that require online and use cfw CIA installs for offline stuff.
As far as cfw bans go... it's more likely you'll get banned if you run a CIA online that breaks street date (as with what happened with the Pokemon games that leaked early), if you run a modified/cheat version of a game online (like the hacked versions of MK7), if you have all your data sharing open and do dumb stuff like setting your favourite title to be a homebrew CIA like FBI. Bottom line; don't do dumb stuff online.
If you have the option of a flashcart, use that (header patched) for games that require online and use cfw CIA installs for offline stuff.
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