Hardware PSA: Gateway Is Making More Bricks

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  • Gateway

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  • Supercard

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  • The user, not using an open sorce CFW

    Votes: 147 38.1%

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Unbricking thread.

First one here...
Second.

I recomend staying on version 3.4.1 for now; since it is the last version before the DSTWO+ came out.

Lets keep a tally going for this, that should be fun.

This is just stupid.

rxTools FTW
 
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Just as a note for anyone that was bricked, you will need a hardmod, a nand backup, and a raspberry pi A, I believe B and the 2nd one will not work. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Somewhere there is a tutorial on this forums, a quick search will yield it. There is also a video tutorial.
 

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With all the custom firmware and modified launchers and what not,

I'm surprised that only 2, and specifically tied to DStwo+, are the ones who got bricked.

I figured it would have been sooner.
 

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Thing is, if there is this so called BC embedded again in their latest launcher, how long will it be until genuine users may be affected, even if it's better obfuscated than before?

It's all fine and dandy having a dig at DStwo users, yet this shit should never be in their in the first place, regardless if you wanna call it protecting their IP.

You don't want another fiasco again like it was with their V2 beta back in Jan 2014.
 
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Thing is, if there is this so called BC embedded again in their latest launcher, how long will it be until genuine users may be affected, even if it's better obfuscated than before?

It's all fine and dandy having a dig at DStwo users, yet this shit should never be in their in the first place, regardless if you wanna call it protecting their IP.

You don't want another fiasco again like it was with their V2 beta back in Jan 2014.
It is not a matter of obfuscation, but a matter of the trigger code working.

they already warned every one there is a serious flaw in the supercard plugin, not gw laucher.dat
"We have noticed some serious and dangerous flaws in an unofficial Gateway emulation plugin"
You're taking a pirate's words at face value? Sometimes you need to read between the lines.
 

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It is not a matter of obfuscation, but a matter of the trigger code working.


You're taking a pirate's words at face value? Sometimes you need to read between the lines.
in other words it's okay to steal
They brick code is complete bullshit. I dont even honestly understand the point of a gateway if you can just use Rxtools. GW has no right to brick consoles.
gw doesn't brick them Supercard does
 

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This is seriously annoying. Not the fact that clone buyers get bricks, they got warnings.

But the fact GW actually spends time working on brick code while they could have found keys for 9.5+ emuNAND or worked on a MSET 9.2 or even autoboot. But no, due to clones, instead of working on pleasing their userbase, they work on killing others' userbases.

Now, I know what you are going to say. "You're defending stealers who defend themselves from stealers ?". Yes, there is an ethical problem, I don't argue with this.

But don't tell me the clones deserve the money more than GW. If you think GW doesn't deserve any money, then you should think that cloners don't deserve any more. GW were the ones to work hard in the first place. Yes, to steal, but at least they worked for it instead of just selling what others already sell. Plus, GW doesn't allow only piracy. It also allows you to have an updated firmware to play newer games while still keeping a low firmware for HB exploits. This is now defeated by CFWs (those with emuNAND capabilities) but I don't think any of these CFWs currently in use nowadays would have seen the day without GW. The absence of clones wouldn't have bothered though.

I hope cloners will learn their lesson this time and let people who try to contribute work without distraction.

They are not steeling though, is Dolphin stealing? Same thing.
SC is emulating the hardware of the GW, and then the user downloads the GW software.
Dolphin isn't stealing because the GC isn't sold anymore. Clone cards are stealing because people who buy their cards don't buy GW's.
 
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So you buy a gun, shoot yourself then you blame it on the one who sold it to you. Bravo sir, bravo. :bow:
It is more like someone selling you a gun, then the a second seller shooting the buyer.

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This is seriously annoying. Not the fact that clone buyers get bricks, they got warnings.

But the fact GW actually spends time working on brick code while they could have found keys for 9.5+ emuNAND or worked on a MSET 9.2 or even autoboot. But no, due to clones, instead of working on pleasing their userbase, they work on killing others' userbases.

Now, I know what you are going to say. "You're defending stealers who defend themselves from stealers ?". Yes, there is an ethical problem, I don't argue with this.

But don't tell me the clones deserve the money more than GW. If you think GW doesn't deserve any money, then you should think that cloners don't deserve any more. GW were the ones to work hard in the first place. Yes, to steal, but at least they worked for it instead of just selling what others already sell. Plus, GW doesn't allow only piracy. It also allows you to have an updated firmware to play newer games while still keeping a low firmware for HB exploits. This is now defeated by CFWs (those with emuNAND capabilities) but I don't think any of these CFWs currently in use nowadays would have seen the day without GW. The absence of clones wouldn't have bothered though.

I hope cloners will learn their lesson this time and let people who try to contribute work without distraction.


Dolphin isn't stealing because the GC isn't sold anymore. Clone cards are stealing because people who buy their cards don't buy GW's.
Wiis are sold, and it emulates them aswell.

How about this, we stop debating ethics and keep it to brick reporting?
 
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