Im still wondering why we needed a wall at all? Well i kinda understand.
Wanting to shoot people for crossing imaginary boarders is a pretty shitty position to have and should be attacked.I am not derailing. We are specifically discussing how to deal with the GOP "trafficking" illegal immigrants. They are attacking my CHARACTER, and I am giving my opinion on POLICY relating to the exact subject matter.
I did not make any such claim, and it's irrelevant how many were or were not asylum seekers. The definition of HUMAN trafficking only requires that they are HUMAN, which they are. The legal thing for Abbott and/or DeSantis to do would have been handing over the migrants to ICE or immigration services. Since they did neither of those things and decided to use the migrants for a political stunt instead, a stunt which they funded with TAXPAYER MONEY by the way, they were in violation of the law every step of the way.How is it a crime, if they are not here illegally, sir?
Weren't you one of the ones falsely claiming that 100% of the people "trafficked" were TOTES ASYLUM SEEKERS?
Being WILLING to shoot criminals as a warning to the hundreds of thousands of others who have no respect for a sovereign nation to enact and enforce its own border policy is a defensible stance throughout any point of history, in any nation in the world.Wanting to shoot people for crossing imaginary boarders is a pretty shitty position to have and should be attacked.
Where were you when Biden did the same thing?I did not make any such claim, and it's irrelevant how many were or were not asylum seekers. The definition of HUMAN trafficking only requires that they are HUMAN, which they are. The legal thing for Abbott and/or DeSantis to do would have been handing over the migrants to ICE or immigration services. Since they did neither of those things and decided to use the migrants for a political stunt instead, a stunt which they funded with TAXPAYER MONEY by the way, they were in violation of the law every step of the way.
Biden has not done the same thing. You're probably referring to immigrants being moved for processing or to be reunited with their families. In other words, operations conducted by ICE or immigration services. That's arguing in bad faith.Where were you when Biden did the same thing?
If you were a single father, an American citizen, and you got a DUI with your daughter in the car, would YOU be reunited with your family if you could not afford bail before you were released from jail?Biden has not done the same thing. You're probably referring to immigrants being moved for processing or to be reunited with their families. In other words, operations conducted by ICE or immigration services. That's arguing in bad faith.
That's a lot of words for a shitty position to hold. What about just making the process of becoming legal an easier one that doesn't require such an extreme response to people wanting to come to the US? Why make it harder for people trying to find a better life elsewhere? Is that's literally the entire point of the USBeing WILLING to shoot criminals as a warning to the hundreds of thousands of others who have no respect for a sovereign nation to enact and enforce its own border policy is a defensible stance throughout any point of history, in any nation in the world.
You keep referring to these folks as "people crossing borders", or "migrants".
THEY ARE NOT.
No political party has a single problem with LEGAL IMMIGRATION.
THESE ARE NOT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Stop moving the goalpost, and stop putting words in my mouth. I do not support just shooting brown people. I do not support murdering anyone.
Defending a national border from criminals is not murder. That is national defense, and is both just and right. You won't convince me otherwise. My means may be more extreme than you're willing to deal with, and that's okay. I simply don't care. No other method has worked. Time for the snipers. That WILL work.
But that is NOT what we are talking about, ma'am. What we are talking about is the false accusation that the GOP broke a law by "trafficking humans".That's a lot of words for a shitty position to hold. What about just making the process of becoming legal an easier one that doesn't require such an extreme response to people wanting to come to the US? Why make it harder for people trying to find a better life elsewhere? Is that's literally the entire point of the US
It was entirely for show. During that entire attention seeking shutdown he did, the Democrats constantly offered deals like drones, more guards, judges for illegal immigration (something you literally fucking need to turn people away with) and he rejected literally all of it, the only thing he wanted money for was a stupid wall that wouldn't even work. Even now the only thing we have in response are some chain link fences that are getting cut and some proof of concept shit that's still sitting dead in empty plots of useless land as a reminder that walls, in fact, do not work.Im still wondering why we needed a wall at all? Well i kinda understand.
They were coerced by fake promises of housing, welfare, and job opportunities. The receiving states were not informed, nor were the migrants sent to a location with the proper resources to process them. Again, the ONLY legal thing to do would've been turning them over to ICE or immigration services. Since they did not, Abbott and DeSantis committed felony human trafficking. Fifty counts of it, for that matter. Lock 'em up.Also, they DID the legal thing. All of these criminals agreed to be sent to another state. They promised that they were a sanctuary state in Martha's Vineyard. So, send these folks to the ones who promised to take them in and provide for them, even though they are criminals. I am a big supporter of State's Rights.
These folks were simply transported, legally, to a jurisdiction whose State legislation promised to accommodate them. I see no problem whatsoever. No different than being transported from one prison to another. Except this one has lobster, and a bunch of white leftists who obviously don't want those brown people there.
You know what WOULD work? It starts with S and rhymes with "wipers".It was entirely for show. During that entire attention seeking shutdown he did, the Democrats constantly offered deals like drones, more guards, judges for illegal immigration (something you literally fucking need to turn people away with) and he rejected literally all of it, the only thing he wanted money for was a stupid wall that wouldn't even work. Even now the only thing we have in response are some chain link fences that are getting cut and some proof of concept shit that's still sitting dead in empty plots of useless land as a reminder that walls, in fact, do not work.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/shutdown-enters-33rd-day-u-141806369.html
A better idea would be to keep a wall, like a chain wall then have people patrol itIt was entirely for show. During that entire attention seeking shutdown he did, the Democrats constantly offered deals like drones, more guards, judges for illegal immigration (something you literally fucking need to turn people away with) and he rejected literally all of it, the only thing he wanted money for was a stupid wall that wouldn't even work. Even now the only thing we have in response are some chain link fences that are getting cut and some proof of concept shit that's still sitting dead in empty plots of useless land as a reminder that walls, in fact, do not work.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/shutdown-enters-33rd-day-u-141806369.html
That's what the democrats proposed, Trump threw a shitfit over it and kept the shutdown going, which hilariously fucked with our ability to actually charge people for tresspassing the border. The guy was a complete failure of a president all around.A better idea would be to keep a wall, like a chain wall then have people patrol it
Prove it. Don't just post a news article. Show me that anyone was actually offered ANYTHING, besides a Venezuelan who had already, BY YOUR OWN ARTICLE, failed at crossing multiple times.They were coerced by fake promises of housing, welfare, and job opportunities. The receiving states were not informed, nor were the migrants sent to a location with the proper resources to process them. Again, the ONLY legal thing to do would've been turning them over to ICE or immigration services. Since they did not, Abbott and DeSantis committed felony human trafficking. Fifty counts of it, in fact.
Also, they could not have been coerced to COME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.They were coerced by fake promises of housing, welfare, and job opportunities. The receiving states were not informed, nor were the migrants sent to a location with the proper resources to process them. Again, the ONLY legal thing to do would've been turning them over to ICE or immigration services. Since they did not, Abbott and DeSantis committed felony human trafficking. Fifty counts of it, for that matter. Lock 'em up.
Stupid question but is there any proof for it? sry if im asking to much, using most of my CPU power for other things like helping a guy with his 3DSThat's what the democrats proposed, Trump threw a shitfit over it and kept the shutdown going, which hilariously fucked with our ability to actually charge people for tresspassing the border. The guy was a complete failure of a president all around.
What the fuck are you on about now? I already told you, whether they crossed legally or illegally is irrelevant, it doesn't change how the crime of human trafficking is defined.Prove it. Don't just post a news article. Show me that anyone was actually offered ANYTHING, besides a Venezuelan who had already, BY YOUR OWN ARTICLE, failed at crossing multiple times.
Let's go back to that tired old logic thing that the left hates.
If he FAILED. MULTIPLE TIMES. TO CROSS THE BORDER. What could possibly make you believe that THIS time, he came the right way? Dear glorious bootyclapping Jebus.
No they were fucking not. The states they were sent to had no clue they were coming, and they were dropped off in random neighborhoods, not immigrant processing centers. Complete randos rallied around them to help take care of them until they could be taken to the right place, but that changes nothing about the crimes committed by Abbott and DeSantis. Just admit that you're a hypocrite who's fine with crime as long as it's being committed by Republican big-wigs.These criminals were being lawfully processed and sent to the jurisdiction that promised to process and take care of them.