GOP Traffics illegal immigrant into washington

[Deleted member 586536]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-ap-texas-greg-abbott-joe-biden-b2171596.html


Really? Just... Really?

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Republicans: we got a immigration problem! How do we show that we have one?
Desantis and Abbot: I got an idea! Let's get them into a carvan and planes, and put more into the country! And then frame it as the failure of the woke left!
Any sane person:... Why not just use real cases if this is widespr-
Abbot and Desantis: nononono we can't do that. Too hard to find
Person: then it's not as widespread-
Republican: LOOOOOK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DEM FAIL!


Edit: anyways. I'm going to link a some news.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Republicans: we got a immigration problem! How do we show that we have one?
Desantis and Abbot: I got an idea! Let's get them into a carvan and planes, and put more into the country! And then frame it as the failure of the woke left!
Any sane person:... Why not just use real cases if this is widespr-
Abbot and Desantis: nononono we can't do that. Too hard to find
Person: then it's not as widespread-
Republican: LOOOOOK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DEM FAIL!

They aren't letting more people in. They are just following the current laws in regard to that.

That you are having a temper tantrum now shows that you didn't care about the situation until it started affecting you. Biden's administration has been a completely failure in regards to having a secure border. People are now finally waking up.

 

[Xzi]

Last I checked, human trafficking is a felony in this country. Doing it under the guise of a political stunt is even worse, not better. If the cops won't arrest these criminal scumbags for it, the citizens need to.

Additionally, border states receive a lot of federal funding and resources for the migrants which are expected to cross into them. So it seems like these governors are making a good case for revoking that funding.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Last I checked, human trafficking is a felony in this country. Doing it under the guise of a political stunt is even worse, not better. If the cops won't arrest these criminal scumbags for it, the citizens need to.

Additionally, border states receive a lot of federal funding and resources for the migrants which are expected to cross into them. So it seems like these governors are making a good case for revoking that funding.

So is it legal when the Biden administration flies minors around in the middle of the night? Must be (D)ifferent.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-140450591.html

If you actually care about human trafficking, look into the complete lack of documentation about what has happened to those kids.

 

[Xzi]

So is it legal when the Biden administration flies minors around in the middle of the night? Must be (D)ifferent.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-140450591.html

If you actually care about human trafficking, look into the complete lack of documentation about what has happened to those kids.

What a fucking stupid comparison. Yes, it is obviously different when immigrants have to be moved for processing or to be reunited with their families. GOP governors are luring immigrants with fake promises of welfare/job opportunities, and having them dropped off in random neighborhoods or in front of their political opponents' houses. Never in places that are prepared to handle them, nor are these governors acting on behalf of immigration services. They're doing it entirely as smug, self-serving stunts, which means they bear the sole responsibility of their criminal actions.

They're not winning anybody's vote with this, and nobody with two brain cells to rub together believes Trump's ten miles of new border wall was actually slowing illegal immigration.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

They're not winning anybody's vote with this, and nobody with two brain cells to rub together believes Trump's ten miles of new border wall was actually slowing illegal immigration.

It's about 80 miles of new, with over 450 miles total and much of what replaced is something a child was able to easily bypass.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46748492

Edit: @Xzi I'll take the laughter without a response as you not having an argument. But feel free to find evidence and prove my source wrong.

 

[Xzi]

It's about 80 miles of new, with over 450 miles total and much of what replaced is something a child was able to easily bypass.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46748492

Ooh so 80 miles of new wall on a 2000 mile border. Very impressive.

It should make you wonder where the majority of that money went. Fearmongering over "migrant caravans" is nothing but a smoke and mirrors act to make you look elsewhere while Trump and the GOP pick your pockets themselves. Especially considering that they're also the ones hiring a significant portion of illegal immigrants, thus drawing more to the US.

 

[SG854]

They want slaves

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Ooh so 80 miles of new wall on a 2000 mile border. Very impressive.

It should make you wonder where the majority of that money went. Fearmongering over "migrant caravans" is nothing but a smoke and mirrors act to make you look elsewhere while Trump and the GOP pick your pockets themselves. Especially considering that they're also the ones hiring a significant portion of illegal immigrants, thus drawing more to the US.

Again, just over 450 miles were built while Trump was in office. So 22% of the entire border built in about two years after all the fighting for funding. This was with about $15 billion in funding, contrasting $54 billion spend on Ukraine so far.

You can find a current map to really understand how and why the wall was replaced where it was. The large area in the middle is very difficult terrain which is why there wasn't already barriers in place, much of it was separated by the Rio Grande and large canyons. But overtime a manmade barrier will be erected.

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-wall-system

 

[Luke94]

How about those people that are behaving like Angus MacGyver,Gadget Hackwrench,Leonardo Da Vinci,John Titor,Norman Osborn,Harry Osborn,Rick,Morty? Well Joe Biden is President of United States.

 

[Xzi]

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I don't care, dude. There are plenty of videos that demonstrate the new wall is just as easy to go over, around, or straight through using supplies you can buy at Home Depot. And you didn't address the fact that Republican executives are not only allowing for, but encouraging the hiring of illegal immigrants. Even Trump was still hiring them at his hotels while in office. It's such an obvious grift, and you're so obviously an idiot for falling for it.

You wanna discuss actual solutions for slowing illegal immigration? There are two options, which can be combined for maximum effectiveness if you want. One is punishing execs from the top down for hiring illegal immigrants, not with something ignorable but with actual prison sentences (5-10 years should do the trick, and not at club fed). A few of them do hard time and the rest would take notice real quick. Two is a path to citizenship which encourages migrants to register with the state from the outset, thus preventing employers from exploiting their labor for less than minimum wage. That way, American citizens who might want the same jobs can actually compete. We also need to raise minimum wage, but that's a bit of a tangent.

The GOP will never agree to either of these policies, because, you guessed it: they don't actually want to fix the problem. They just want to play both sides of it for eternity, ensuring the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. All the while using migrants as political footballs instead of treating them like human beings.

 

[omgcat]

they will do anything, ANYTHING to distract from the fucked scenario that is the Dobbs ruling and removal of abortion access in a large chunk of America. but honestly for independent voters bussing migrants and removing abortion access has been a HUGE losing move, hence Desantis cancelling the movement of migrants to Biden's residence in Delaware.

 

[erikas]

GOP: close the border.
Dems: no.
GOP: can we at least deport the ones that we caught?
Dems: no.
GOP: ok, then have them and deal with them yourselves.
Dems:WAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Deleted member 114266]

I don't care, dude. There are plenty of videos that demonstrate the new wall is just as easy to go over, around, or straight through using supplies you can buy at Home Depot. And you didn't address the fact that Republican executives are not only allowing for, but encouraging the hiring of illegal immigrants. Even Trump was still hiring them at his hotels while in office. It's such an obvious grift, and you're so obviously an idiot for falling for it.

TLDR, I don't have an argument but I do have a bunch of whataboutisms. blah blah blah.

Hauling around hundreds of pounds for an industrial cutter, generator and fuel, or plasma torch with propane tank is just as easy as carrying around a pair of bolt cutters that got through the previously existing fence.

Oh I know, the migrants are coming with heavy construction to tunnel under the wall. Checkmate, I guess the wall doesn't work.

You wanna discuss actual solutions for slowing illegal immigration? There are two options, which can be combined for maximum effectiveness if you want. One is punishing execs from the top down for hiring illegal immigrants, not with something ignorable but with actual prison sentences (5-10 years should do the trick, and not at club fed). A few of them do hard time and the rest would take notice real quick. Two is a path to citizenship which encourages migrants to register with the state from the outset, thus preventing employers from exploiting their labor for less than minimum wage. That way, American citizens who might want the same jobs can actually compete. We also need to raise minimum wage, but that's a bit of a tangent.

The GOP will never agree to either of these policies, because, you guessed it: they don't actually want to fix the problem. They just want to play both sides of it for eternity, ensuring the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. All the while using migrants as political footballs instead of treating them like human beings.

I don't know, border crossing were down to almost nothing compared to where they are today when Trump was in office. What changed? Oh the perception that the border is open and people can come right in.

But yes their should be penalties for knowingly hiring people who aren't eligible to work. However, many are using SSNs to attempt to bypass the checks. What level of verification does the local grocery store, or Subway shop need to do to not face charges if staff is found to not be eligible.

BTW, you used that dirty term "illegal immigrants" be sure to report to reeducation camp in the next 48 hours for your firmware update to fix the coding bug that allowed that to slip through.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

GOP: close the border.
Dems: no.
GOP: can we at least deport the ones that we caught?
Dems: no.
GOP: ok, then have them and deal with them yourselves.
Dems:WAAAAAAAAAAA

GOP: traffics in immigrants with tax payer dollars.
Also GOP: Democrats are promoting illegal immigrants.

Look if your going to just do double think all day I'll leave you to it, since I'd rather not use my last remaining braincells trying to get through your thick skull what's actually happening instead of the kool-aid you've been drowning in.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

GOP: traffics in immigrants with tax payer dollars.
Also GOP: Democrats are promoting illegal immigrants.

Look if your going to just do double think all day I'll leave you to it, since I'd rather not use my last remaining braincells trying to get through your thick skull what's actually happening instead of the kool-aid you've been drowning in.

Complaining about double think right after blaming the GOP for the current immigration crisis.

But you are the second lefty to use "illegal immigrants", sounds like the busing and flights are working.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

I don't know, border crossing were down to almost nothing compared to where they are today when Trump was in office

Hmm, 50? more than the last 5 years? who was the last Pres-
oh never mind. I'll provide like, two more low effort posts and them I'm out.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Hmm, 50? more than the last 5 years? who was the last Pres-
oh never mind. I'll provide like, two more low effort posts and them I'm out.

You do realize that's 50 arrests of people "ON THE TERROR WATCH LIST" not just general arrests. With border crossings down under Trump they weren't attempting to slip by in the chaos. Some I'm not sure what are you trying to argue? Maybe that Biden's border policies are a total failure?

 

[CraddaPoosta]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-ap-texas-greg-abbott-joe-biden-b2171596.html


Really? Just... Really?

Love it. Love it. Love it.

Dump the problem on the doorsteps of the folks who actually WANT more criminals in America.

It's almost poetic.