Hacking DSx86-3DS Mode C-layer

[doyama]

Can a mod please lock this thread as it has devolved into a NGP vs 3DS discussion. There's also no merit in the topic unless the developer decides to support it anyways and the speculation is just bringing out the stupid in people.

 

[AlanJohn]

The thing only came out and you already want it hacked?

 

[sightlight]

This is not about NGP. 3DS. I wonder when it will get hack. Will windows 95/98/xp be fast enough for games if it gets ported? Some guy said that the 3DS flashcard is underway and that it won't take too long. What does this means? Also, i think the DSLinux Source is avaliable. Someone recompile and release it being DSi mode.

People instead of being so negative "No! It will take years!" CHILL.. maybe, maybe not.. there is lots of interest. Though Nintendo might of decreased that interest since the games are like cheap.

 

[doyama]

This is not about NGP. 3DS. I wonder when it will get hack. Will windows 95/98/xp be fast enough for games if it gets ported? Some guy said that the 3DS flashcard is underway and that it won't take too long. What does this means? Also, i think the DSLinux Source is avaliable. Someone recompile and release it being DSi mode.

People instead of being so negative "No! It will take years!" CHILL.. maybe, maybe not.. there is lots of interest. Though Nintendo might of decreased that interest since the games are like cheap.

We're not being negative we're being realistic. The current DSi hack is a variant of a save game hack that was released over 1 year ago. The only other viable hack was using a save game hack on Sudoku that's now been pulled from the store. Considering how difficult it has been to even get DSi mode working, it will take significant time before there's even a possibility of a 3DS hack. Of course we can 'hold out hope' something is coming next week, but that would be foolish.

Any rumors of a 3DS mode flashcart have to be taken at this point to be outright lies, simply due to the lack of time with the device, as well as the prior history of the difficulty of penetrating the device that doesn't require exposing the guts of the system.

As you said, if the DSx86 source code is available you can use the iEVO SDK to compile it in DSi mode. Feel free to do so if the original author is either MIA or not willing.

 

[Qtis]

As you said, if the DSx86 source code is available you can use the iEVO SDK to compile it in DSi mode. Feel free to do so if the original author is either MIA or not willing.

The author is still around and has compiled the DSx86 to work with the DSi mode in iEvo. btw. The iEvo doesn't need an SDK since it uses the DSi hardware unlike the DSTwo which has extra hardware. Thus using the latest nds libraries, you can make the homebrew work on DSi mode (or TC just update the compatibility layer to make it work better).


-Qtis

 

[sightlight]

This is not about NGP. 3DS. I wonder when it will get hack. Will windows 95/98/xp be fast enough for games if it gets ported? Some guy said that the 3DS flashcard is underway and that it won't take too long. What does this means? Also, i think the DSLinux Source is avaliable. Someone recompile and release it being DSi mode.

People instead of being so negative "No! It will take years!" CHILL.. maybe, maybe not.. there is lots of interest. Though Nintendo might of decreased that interest since the games are like cheap.

We're not being negative we're being realistic. The current DSi hack is a variant of a save game hack that was released over 1 year ago. The only other viable hack was using a save game hack on Sudoku that's now been pulled from the store. Considering how difficult it has been to even get DSi mode working, it will take significant time before there's even a possibility of a 3DS hack. Of course we can 'hold out hope' something is coming next week, but that would be foolish.

Any rumors of a 3DS mode flashcart have to be taken at this point to be outright lies, simply due to the lack of time with the device, as well as the prior history of the difficulty of penetrating the device that doesn't require exposing the guts of the system.

As you said, if the DSx86 source code is available you can use the iEVO SDK to compile it in DSi mode. Feel free to do so if the original author is either MIA or not willing.

MIA? Let me guess>> We got a warhead player

 

[Rydian]

MIA is an official term used by the US armed forces.

 

[totalnoob617]

i think we are forgeting a few things here 1)while there may have been some interest in hacking dsi mode ,there was really never any commercial potential in it,and yes while team twizzers are freakin geniuses they do not have the same access to funds and commercial facilites that the card makers in china do,
plus their ant piracy code of ethics prevents them from releasing things and also from going in certain directions,and they have not as much to gain as commercial flashcard makers
2)ever look at the back of your ds?its made in CHINA,HELLO,ninty is too cheap to hire their own people to make their devices and it will come back to bite them in the @$$ yet again im afraid.
if they are,(and im sure they are) ,making the 3ds in china as well,they are subbing out the manufacture of their console to the piracy and counterfeiting capital of the universe,what do you expect to happen?
these are the same people that are making the flashcards and they have access to commercial grade equipment that team twizzers dont ,plus capital,plus no anti-piracy ethics to worry about,plus a huge profit motive.
i dont know how we got the ds sdk anyone care ot elaborate?i could imagine it was leaked by someone ninty subbed out to make the ds or parts of it.

plus if they want they could also catscan, or xray or whatever, these chips,sem electron microscope,whatever,they will get to the bottom of it one way or another the profit potential is too great
,more likely the schematics will be leaked out and sold on the chinese black market,
i just really hope that it doesnt get hacked too quickly ,
i would hate for it to be hacked before ninty releases the newer fw's that add the new features left out in the 1st fw release, only to have it get patched,and then only be able to exploit the lower featureless fw ,forever ,or for awhile,long while,
but im sure it would be overcome anyway,
like i said ,dsi mode ,yes it is hacked and cyclops team is marketing a new card with dsi mode ,but i cant imagine too much interest or profit potential,
so dsi has also been hacked with an sd card,
psp can be hacked with an sd card,
yes the pandora battery offers a commercial incentive ,but it can also be homemade for some models,
but beside that there is no real profit potential there,i can see the 3ds being extremely popular and selling millions of units,the profit motive of the chinese manufacturers will be HUGE on this one
,FFS, there still making ps3 dongles and wii modchips ,even though we have softmods and cfw,and other devices that can jb or DG a ps3,
there is a huge market potential here,it will not go unexploited for very long i think.
also i read a post where someone else suggested that ninty secretly wants its devices hacked,but will never tell its developers that ,or let it be known publicly ,for the mere reason that the chinese market potential is so huge ,that if even the lower class doesnt buy the device ,
because they feel like every other device has been hacked and allows piracy(free games) and they have little money ,so their feeling is why spend the little money they have for a system that you have to keep purchasing software for when you can buy one that has free games,and after an inital investment,their done spending on it
,he said he knew how the culture surrounding this worked in china and that they dont buy this sort of thing till there is piracy,because they have no money ,
and while they may be able to save up and afford a one time initial investment to buy the device ,they can not afford to keep buying games ,
which are not priced any different in china, than they are in wealthier countries,so nintendo would see much higher profit potential in selling to that demographic than it could ever begin to loose from piracy,
i must admit after thinking about it a little he did have a good point
,i bet the lower class in china amount to more people/potential customers than the US and euorpe combined,
would ninty really want to alienate that size of a potential customer base?
especially if they could hide the fact from their developers, that they let piracy happen,they could have their cake and eat it too,by not detracting or scaring away any devs from buying licences,and get all those extra console sales,
and yes while ninty does publish software too,im sure its nothing compared to what they make off of the console,that must be their bread and butter,or else why would they keep making so much damn hardware,go ahead try and count the consoles , if they are loosing money ,like sony tried to claim about the ps3,and M$ about the xbox,i dont think that was ever the case with ninty,they have been in the busniess from the getgo not like upstart johnny come lately copycats who just ride their coat tails and try to copy every move they make cause all they see are $$ signs,$ony &M$

 

[jamespoo]

any updates would love dsx86 on the 3ds

 

[The Real Jdbye]

any updates would love dsx86 on the 3ds

There's DOSBox for 3DS.

 

[Pacheko17]

Congrats on Necroing a thread, you two.

 

[daxtsu]

any updates would love dsx86 on the 3ds

http://dsx86.patrickaalto.com/DSblog.html

Probably best to follow the author's blog. Sometime last year he started on 3DS support, but it's been slow progress.

Let's let this thread rest in peace though, it's 6 years old now.