Doom 3 Gets An unnecessary remaster release

Discussion in 'GBAtemp & Scene News' started by Hadrian, May 30, 2012.

  1. Hadrian
    OP

    Hadrian Better than Craigslist

    Former Staff
    16,979
    3,098
    Oct 12, 2004
    For some reason FPS game Doom 3 is getting "remastered" on PS3 & Xbox 360.

    This "BFG Edition" will feature:
    • Expansion pack "Resurrection of Evil" new story "The Lost Mission" which includes 7 more levels.
    • Enhanced controls, graphics, lighting & 5.1 surround sound.
    • Optimised for 3D TVs, monitors & head mounted displays.
    • 360 achievements & PS3 trophies and a in game checkpoint save system has been added...really that wasn't in the original Xbox release?
    • Armour mounted torch so that you can shoot and see in the dark at the same time...taking away the only part of the tenseness that the game actually had.
    • Also includes Doom & Doom 2...making it a "definitive" collection...erm what about Ultimate Doom, Final Doom & the underrated Doom 64?


    Full press release:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    Source: http://www.joystiq.c...this-fall-with/

    If retail, I feel it would be VERY unnecessary. Doom 3 was never that good anyway to even warrant a re-release, it's gameplay has aged (even more so than the originals) & the engine itself was hardly that great even when it was first released. Also for PC gamers (source says its coming to PC but the press release and trailer doesn't mention this)...we got these games AS WELL as Final Doom & Ultimate Doom on sale on Steam for under £8.

    Nothing says "our last game bombed" than a reissue of a title no one asked for. Personally remastering Quake 1-3 (throw in Quake 64 version too just for completest sake) may have made much better sense. However this is the first Doom release on a PlayStation console since Final Doom on the PSX.
     


  2. Fudge

    Fudge Remember that death is not the end, but only a tra

    Banned
    2,655
    134
    Aug 26, 2009
    United States
    New York
    I'm happy, I've really wanted to play this one, hope it's retail so I can burn it :D
     
  3. raybattousai

    raybattousai GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    145
    51
    Sep 13, 2009
    United States
    Philadelphia, PA
    I think you need to rewatch that trailer
     
  4. Hadrian
    OP

    Hadrian Better than Craigslist

    Former Staff
    16,979
    3,098
    Oct 12, 2004
    Yeah I completely ignored the cases...
     
  5. EyeZ

    EyeZ GBAtemp Addict

    Member
    2,487
    517
    Dec 4, 2009
    I really enjoyed Doom and Final Doom but Doom 3 didn't give me the buzz that the previous games did.

    I know they are going to include new levels in the re-mastered version, but i don't think that will make the game more playable for me.
     
  6. Slave

    Slave GBAtemp Fan

    Member
    400
    21
    Aug 29, 2006
    Canada
    Montreal, Quebec.
    I liked Doom3 back then... it wasnt the best game ever, but it was entertaining... and I dont mind the remastered, but I wouldve seen it more as a release as a cheap Downloadable Arcade game.... not as a Retail full price. 20$ downloadable game... sure... 40-50$ retail... GOD NO.
     
  7. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Member
    10,254
    17,403
    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
    New Jersey
    Unless this comes with an animated adaptation of the comic, no dice.
     
  8. Another World

    Another World Emulate the Planet!

    Former Staff
    10,498
    1,672
    Jan 3, 2008
    Colombia
    From Where???
    i don't consider the gameplay of the originals to be "aged". they are classics now. just as fun as the day they were released. this doom3 update looks pretty sweet actually. its to bad they didn't include heretic as an unlock-able.

    -another world
     
  9. DSGamer64

    DSGamer64 Canadian, Eh?

    Member
    2,932
    171
    Nov 9, 2007
    Canada
    A cold cold place
    Doom 3 was terrible for pretty much every reason you can think of. To be honest, it's a lousy game for gameplay, the story is freaking terrible and they changed the overall thought process of pretty much every demon model in the game. I think they only really stayed true to about 4 of the monsters, and you only saw a few of them a couple of times in the whole game. But the gameplay was dumb, the storyline didn't really work, and the graphics engine was pretty horrendous and demanding for mediocre visualization, compared to Unreal Engine 3 which started being used in games about a year or so after Doom 3 was released and looked vastly superior by comparison.

    I know it's really hard to recreate the magic that was Doom 2: Hell on Earth in a new game with all the realism technology we have today but don't you think that if they used the same concept of level design but actually made it realistic, that a Doom 2 remake would sell like hotcakes fresh out of the oven? No one liked Doom 3, it bombed badly, worse then Rage did I think because people didn't have as high of expectations for Rage.
     
  10. Pleng

    Pleng GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Member
    1,669
    825
    Sep 14, 2011
    Thailand
    Oh please, please, please! Doesn't even have to be a sequal. Just remake Doom & Doom 2 with badd-arse graphics. Same level design restrictions. Same turn-aim-fire philosiphy. Same guns. Same levels.

    'Aiming' ruined and rooms-above-rooms ruined first person shooters!
     
  11. jumpman17

    jumpman17 He's a semi-aquatic egg laying mammal of action!

    Former Staff
    8,990
    176
    Apr 11, 2003
    United States
    Does the new version let me tape a freaking flashlight to my guns? That was the thing that killed it for me. Having to run around with a flashlight, then when something jumps out at me, I have to switch to a gun and start shooting at the thing in the dark. Needs to take a note from Dead Rising 2. Gun + Ducktape + Flashlight = ZOMG! I can see AND shoot.
     
    2 people like this.
  12. TwinRetro

    TwinRetro Don't start nothin', Won't be nothin'

    Global Moderator
    6,181
    4,804
    Aug 29, 2008
    United States
    Las Vegas, NV

    The new version has your flashlight attached to your armor. So, yeah, you can shoot and have a flashlight out at the same time.
     
  13. Snailface

    Snailface My frothing demand for 3ds homebrew is increasing

    Member
    4,324
    1,983
    Sep 20, 2010
    Engine Room with Cyan, watching him learn.
    For $20 this game becomes necessary. If not $20, then I agree with the op.
     
  14. Memoir

    Memoir A Hero to Zero

    Member
    GBAtemp Patron
    Memoir is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    4,694
    4,300
    Jun 24, 2007
    United States
    Wyoming
    Buying it. Why? Nostalgia. You really think I care if they took away some of the intensity? No. I don't, and I know I'm not the only one. I just hope they keep co-op. Not to mention that I hear it's coming with remastered versions of Doom 1 and 2. Then again, I'm wrong. Oh well. :)
     
  15. Costello

    Costello Headmaster

    Administrator
    12,393
    5,640
    Oct 24, 2002
    thread by Master Hadrian Of The Dead moved to homepage.
     
  16. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

    pip Reporter
    23,536
    21,496
    Sep 13, 2009
    Poland
    Gaming Grotto
    I enjoyed that game, one of the rare instances when I actually bought a game new rather than pirating it or getting it pre-owned. It was different, it attempted to re-invision the series, for some successfully, for others not so much. I don't see what the fuss is all about - if the HD treatment won't be limited to high-res textures then it's a valid release.
     
  17. lordrand11

    lordrand11 GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    267
    3
    Sep 21, 2009
    United States
    Talladega, AL
  18. Hadrian
    OP

    Hadrian Better than Craigslist

    Former Staff
    16,979
    3,098
    Oct 12, 2004
    That's just a budget release, they always happen though you can actually get it for a lot less new than what's stated there.
     
  19. Minox

    Minox Spytech Employee

    Supervisor
    6,023
    2,602
    Aug 27, 2007
    Not quite sure how a remastered release can be considered unnecessary. It hasn't been released on these consoles before and giving more people the chance to play the game is not what I'd call unnecessary. If people have already played the game then there's no need for them to repurchase the game again, is there? ;P

    That being said, I never really liked Doom 3.

    Development of Quake 4 was only supervised by id Software, Raven Software were the actual developers of Quake 4. That is also the reason why some people don't consider Quake 4 to be a part of the series.
     
  20. codezer0

    codezer0 Gaming keeps me sane

    Member
    2,427
    396
    Jul 14, 2009
    United States
    The Magic School Bus
    Yea, I too feel this is VERY unnecessary, and rather incomplete too.

    The flashlight/gun toggle thing was a source of rage among people... and honestly, it makes sense. Even non-combat police officers know how to hold a flashlight and a pistol at the same time... why the hell can't a marine in the future do the same thing? Not to mention there's plenty of other ways to actually induce tension and fear in a game. But Doom's has always been a very cop-out way of doing it. Even back then, I felt like carmack was just phoning it in, while blissfully unaware that Chronicles of Riddick not only fixed his ass-tastic engine, but beat it to the punch in terms of release date.

    And actually no, the Xbox nor PC versions originally did not have a checkpoint system. It was manual save only... the only "checkpoints" where those between levels... so in a way, there were no in-level checkpoints unless you made your own. Not that I disagreed with it, though. It forced you to think carefully of where and when to make your saves, so that was actually ONE good thing that Carmack did in the name of ensuring tension and a genuine fear of what you had to deal with.

    Doom 64 didn't really have that much in terms of orgiinal levels, if I recall. Not to mention what turned me off Doom most up until 3 was the fact that you couldn't look up or down, and you couldn't jump... when Duke3D let you do these things, and you had some T&A to ogle in the levels. Forget the demons, I want me some babes! :grog: