What do you think is really going on? Let's get a little political here.

I assume you've all heard of the recent Vermont power grid "hacking" story. A few days ago a Vermont utility company found a russian virus on some guy's computer and (part of) the press extrapolated the fact, turning it into a so-called proof of a Russian conspiracy to hack the US power grid... That title was a fucking clickbait, and I just knew it. But not just your average buzzshit clickbait, a serious fucking one this time. When you read the article it became clear: pure bullshit. No evidence whatsoever, all that happened is that they found a regular virus on a random guy's computer, which happens a million times a day everywhere in the world. A few hours later they retracted, a lot of other sites and agencies stated that there was no such thing as a power grid hack attempt. Those media outlets jumped to conclusions to serve their own agenda, it seems.

Now regarding the "hacking" of the US election. Several US government agencies are claiming it's real. Are we being lied to? Are the FBI and homeland security and others all following orders of a higher instance or do they have actual evidence?
So far, they haven't shared much with the general public. Last week they released a document, which I read, but if you read it too you will find that it's absolutely empty of evidence. All it states is "we found some IP addresses in the logs" and "we found a bit of code that was used before". That amounts to nothing at all.

So why do they keep going on about this?
Do you think these agencies have insights they cant share with the public? could they have informants within the russian goverment? that's one of the few things I can think of that they would never be able to reveal. Or maybe it is just more political bullshit... but what's the point? Trump will take office soon and all this Russia crap isn't working. Apparently Trump has something to say on the subject that he will reveal on tuesday or wednesday. I wonder what that may be.

 

[DeoNaught]

The whole Russia interference is so mysterious. What exactly are people accusing the Russian government of? What does meddling in the US election mean? Putin did not even tell the Americans to vote for Trump. But Obama constantly told other nations who to vote for. Is that interference?

the interference is that they made it that Trump would win instead of Hillary

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

How exactly? By financing RT? Then western media would interfere in other countries' elections all the time (including state media).

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

Russian and American far-right hackers and lobbies tried recently to fuck up French Presidential Election by pirating 9 GB of En Marche!'s e-mails, and joining obvious fakes to that. Thankfully, here in France media isn't even allowed to talk about politics as long as the election is less than 48 hours away. RT also militated in favor of Le Pen.

 

[Viri]

The whole Russia interference is so mysterious. What exactly are people accusing the Russian government of? What does meddling in the US election mean? Putin did not even tell the Americans to vote for Trump. But Obama constantly told other nations who to vote for. Is that interference?

To be honest, they been crying about this for so long, that I have no idea. I think the whole hacking of John Podesta is one of them, but he just had a shitty password, and actually got tricked by a phishing site, that even 10 year olds aren't fooled by. Which lead to alllllllllllllllllllllllll his emails being leaked. And, I think the DNC hack, which just showed that they were total scum bags, but, hey, I didn't need a hack to tell me politicians were scum bags, lol.

Hah, I remember when Debbie Wasserman Schultz was caught up in those emails, and proved she was bias assssssssss fuck. She resigned, and then, the same exact day, Hillary gave her a new position on her team, giving a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge middle finger to Bernie supports. Shit like that is why she lost. But that's still some funny shit.

Man, 2016 was fun, I wish we could go back.

 

[Cylent1]

The whole Russia interference is so mysterious. What exactly are people accusing the Russian government of? What does meddling in the US election mean? Putin did not even tell the Americans to vote for Trump. But Obama constantly told other nations who to vote for. Is that interference?

Thats the problem! 1/2 the people have been brainwashed and are no longer competent to even think for themselves. THIS IS THE SADDEST GENERATION EVER!

 

[Sketchy1]

What does meddling in the US election mean?

basically its like us being ruled by a foreign country

 

[Taleweaver]

The timing is questionable, but to be fair he closed a clearly not completed case on hillary (despite an almost unanimous opinion to not to) to open one on trump. that would get anyone mad.

Erm...I'm not an American, but are you saying that the average american has their priorities just completely backwards?

Allegation 1: Hillary Clinton uses an insecure mail server, thus showing she's ignorant towards the safety of the nation
Allegation 2: Donald Trump has close ties to Russia, who rigged the elections in his favor

I dunno, but in Comey's place I'd say that allegation 2 is just a SLIGHT bit higher on the priority scale. If I go against an 'almost unanimous opinion' of Americans with that(which I seriously doubt), then so be it.

Besides...for some bizarre reason Trump has just decided that he can do better than use insufficiently secured mail servers and directly share top secret information with Russia (source: his own fucking twitter account). <*insert a bang-head-against-wall smiley here*>


*sigh*
Look...my view of Americans was already dimmed when you nearly impeached a president for having a mistress yet happily re-elected the next one who happened to start a war against an innocent country. But can you please stop digging for new low grounds and throw this guy out of office? Like...as soon as possible? I'm losing faith in humanity over here.

 

[Joe88]

Besides...for some bizarre reason Trump has just decided that he can do better than use insufficiently secured mail servers and directly share top secret information with Russia (source: his own fucking twitter account). <*insert a bang-head-against-wall smiley here*>

Why do you believe a liberal media outlet that posts an article then puts "sources say" at the end to somehow validate it?
This is the same outlet that claimed russia hacked the US electrical grid, which was proven to be fake news and has been constanly pushing an anti trump agenda.
I would be more concerned that this "story" was published less than an hour after the seth rich story broke and he sent over 40000 emails to wikileaks, but I let you guess which one dominated the news cycle...

 

[JFlare]

I feel that Russia did. I am not really politically correct, and I don't pay much attention to politics, but after Mr. Trump fired that FBI director, I think Trump is hiding something.

 

[DarthDub]

No.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

There's just so much crap being thrown around everywhere, I don't know who or what to believe. Since I'm pretty much inconsequential in determining the fate of what goes down from here (I'm under 18 so I can't vote on anything), I'm just gonna casually sit on the sidelines and let this play out. We'll see what's what in due time, methinks.

 

[Captain_N]

if they did hack it saved us from having a progressive liberal crook from being president.....

 

[Sketchy1]

Allegation 1: Hillary Clinton uses an insecure mail server, thus showing she's ignorant towards the safety of the nation

both seem like pretty much the same scale anyway.
ITS ALL A BIG CONSPIRACY

 

[Taleweaver]

Why do you believe a liberal media outlet that posts an article then puts "sources say" at the end to somehow validate it?

Erm...Why would I not believe a "liberal media"* when Trump himself tweets the same thing, confirming the thing? Or do you believe Trump's communication team - who denied it, which lead to Donald being mad at them - over both the newspapers and the president?



*is that meant to be demeaning, by the way? I read liberal media pretty much my whole life and they've only very occasionally been wrong...which gives them far more credibility than one random guy who refused to further talk to his biographer when said biographer talked to someone Trump didn't like.

This is the same outlet that claimed russia hacked the US electrical grid, which was proven to be fake news and has been constanly pushing an anti trump agenda.

What do you mean, 'proven'? The investigation was ongoing when Trump fired Comey.

I would be more concerned that this "story" was published less than an hour after the seth rich story broke and he sent over 40000 emails to wikileaks, but I let you guess which one dominated the news cycle...

both seem like pretty much the same scale anyway.
ITS ALL A BIG CONSPIRACY

I guess I can't but say my priorities are different (sorry...I've never heard of Seth Rich, so I can't comment on that ).

 

[Eightcoins]

Why would Russia take Trump as some form of puppet tho?
It wouldnt make sense,unless Trump is more intelligent than he seems.
Also what would the point in rigging an American Election to let Trump win be?
If he isnt a good actor,he really does change his opionion every second.
So he could suddenly just start a War with Russia if he wanted to.
And for the people thinking hes friends with Putin:He is propably not,Putin is just also a really conservative politican.
And even if Putin would have different views,its part of Trumps Job to be nice to him.
I mean he didnt insult the pope when he just handed him a book about global warming.

 

[Flocker]

I'm sure they put in efforts to influence it at least. I mean they're Russia

are we to expect any different?

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

"There's a slight chance it could be true, but no actual evidence has been made public yet"
That's what I voted, and I still believe that. But really, I don't get it "liberal media made this up" LMAO. Fucking complotism all over again. And when it was revelated that Hillary had used a private e-mail? The media weren't bad and lying? -.-

Anyways, here's something. Each fucking time someone criticizes Trump, he is immediately categorized as an almost-communist. But I think you Reps didn't really understand the matter. TRUMP CRITICIZERS DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT HIS POLITICAL OPINION. Even if I was a member of the Tea Party, I would be ashamed that a man with a 5-year-old brain, called Donald J. Trump, is the president of one of, if not the most powerful country in the entire world. Trump is just plain stupid and full of shit. Even Ted Cruz would've been far better than him. Really.

 

[Gizametalman]

No, I just believe that most Americans wants to see the world on fire.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

The most frustrating thing is we might never know the truth. If only we lived in a world without secret services (even though that would mean no James Bond movies. ).

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

The most frustrating thing is we might never know the truth. If only we lived in a world without secret services (even though that would mean no James Bond movies. ).

Yup. I honestly believe that Russia tried, and perhaps managed a slight bit, to lobby the election, but hacked? I'm not sure at all.