Hacking An interesting rumor about the 3DS...

[tbgtbg]

then they could rock up to someone's house and ask them to present the specified card, or the actual game that the card pretends to be.

Ignoring the fact that this type of enforcement would cost more than they even claim to lose to piracy, simply installing a "slam" function to your front door could totally defeat this.

 

[bigpaws]

lets clear this up
the hardware is owned by the consumer

the os is owned by nintendo
you have the rights on hardware, they have rights to os
they could change the os so that it doesnt work
but that is a gray area, one ninty would not enter

 

[Rydian]

They're not selling you just the hardware. They're selling you with the promise that it will function a certain way, and this relies on the software. The hardware will not function as advertised if the software does not work. Please check the court cases for Sony's removal of OtherOS to see that this is a real legal concern.

 

[deathking]

lets clear this up
the hardware is owned by the consumer

the os is owned by nintendo
you have the rights on hardware, they have rights to os
they could change the os so that it doesnt work
but that is a gray area, one ninty would not enter

they can remove flash cart functionality
but they cannot remove or destroy their os so other games stop working

 

[ingola]

it would be like windows saying you cannot run imgbrn because they didn't make it i can run whatever i want on my hardware.

 

[Rydian]

it would be like windows saying you cannot run imgbrn because they didn't make it i can run whatever i want on my hardware.

That's actually a fantastic counter to the whole "You're just licensing the software" argument, thanks!

 

[JetBlckHrt]

Yeah, people say that but it's yours and you can do what you want with it. That's like saying if I buy meatloaf I'm not allowed to add ketchup to it.

This is a great example. Even if its stolen ketchup (i.e. pirating) They cant take your meat loaf away from you. Furthest they could go is wiping the ketchup off your meatloaf...
hmm...that made sense I think.

 

[TheDarkSeed]

Yeah, people say that but it's yours and you can do what you want with it. That's like saying if I buy meatloaf I'm not allowed to add ketchup to it.

This is a great example. Even if its stolen ketchup (i.e. pirating) They cant take your meat loaf away from you. Furthest they could go is wiping the ketchup off your meatloaf...
hmm...that made sense I think.

what type of monster would take away ketchup from meatloaf? who ask you, who?

 

[chartube12]

Yeah, people say that but it's yours and you can do what you want with it. That's like saying if I buy meatloaf I'm not allowed to add ketchup to it.

This is a great example. Even if its stolen ketchup (i.e. pirating) They cant take your meat loaf away from you. Furthest they could go is wiping the ketchup off your meatloaf...
hmm...that made sense I think.

what type of monster would take away ketchup from meatloaf? who ask you, who?

What type of person would want ketchup on meatloaf? Tomato sauce is so much better!

 

[tj445]

People keep calling the Flashcards as a pirate card.
I consider it a Third-Party extra add on for the system.

A good example of the case where you Own multiple game images you extracted yourself and wanting to make them portable, or even use the Flashcard to enable me the use of the DS as a multimedia platform for Movies or Music which the normal one would not allow me otherwise.

Telling to the customer "lol mang i herd ya usd a pirate thing, i r afraid i cannot fix dis" is not a plausible argument as the log will be hidden and the customer has not way to confirm it on his side, in this case it is very one-sided as nintendo can refuse any 3DS with the pretext that it has illegal things on it.

Same thing was with my internet a while back here in Japan, They sent me a letter saying that my internet will be cut due to me doing Pirate stuff. When i asked them for details it comes that they have no real proof that it was a pirate site or that i really did pirate anything off of it, The next moment i threat them for court and the next day i get a Letter of apology.

This is a very Japanese-esque way of treating things, they think that if you tell the client that you are using illegal things and we are not supporting you, the client will feel guilty and give up (Which is true on most of the Japanese people)
Too bad the Gaijin dont agree with that.


Its just like the AR Cheat device, It is sold on a wide variety of stores and its not illegal, even though it edits memory of the game and might cause problems on the OS.
Im still curious how they will handle "pirate" sites on the 3DS browser

 

[machomuu]

People keep calling the Flashcards as a pirate card.

Who said that?

 

[monkat]

A good example of the case where you Own multiple game images you extracted yourself and wanting to make them portable, or even use the Flashcard to enable me the use of the DS as a multimedia platform for Movies or Music which the normal one would not allow me otherwise.

Same thing was with my internet a while back here in Japan, They sent me a letter saying that my internet will be cut due to me doing Pirate stuff.

Convincing argument.

 

[junkerde]

well agreed to disagree

 

[pachura]

People keep calling the Flashcards as a pirate card.

Maybe because in 90% cases it is used for piracy ?

 

[koji2009]

This is a silly arguement... it's illegal in every major western country to intentionally remotely destroy any computer system. The 3DS is a computer system... it would be cyber terrorism... This isn't just fine material, this is jail time material.

 

[Blueicm]

I doubt even if does log your use of flashcards which was already beat with the dsi. Nothing can be done... I mean it might void the warranty and Nintendo will know what carts work and what doesn't. I tell people this all the time since there are no agreements made on how to use your DS DSI DSIXL or 3DS their is nothing they can prosecute with. Your fears are based on rumors and that is all. They would literally have to catch you playing a Non-homebrew game on a flashcart to even say your a pirate. That is why they go for retailers and manufacturers.

 

[Vigilante]

So thats why it was easy to hack the 3DS.Nintendo probably intentionally made the 3DS so easy to hack(if this is true respectively).

 

[dgwillia]

Well....either way, im gonna wait a bit to use my flash cart on my 3DS

 

[kthnxshwn]

For the people saying "It's mine, not theirs, I can do whatever I want to it" You need to read the DMCA before you speak.

 

[nryn99]

while reading comments on the source, i think they're crushing me.

On-Topic: damn. this was all a trap.