Trump Raid and the End of the United States (Padraig Martin)

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

djpannda said:
PUblic School, Libraries, Police Dept. Medicare, Social Security... hey look at me I just "quoted" you.
Now are you going to answer my questions >

Don't forget unions! And weekends! Minimum wages!

TraderPatTX said:
The government taking away all private property will never take hold in America. You don't even know what socialism is, so no, I will not be answering your questions until you learn basic facts.

Socialism and private property can co-exist. Decomodification of housing is a communist system, not a socialist one, dingus.

TraderPatTX · Aug 16, 2022

Xzi said:
You seem awfully sure of that for someone so desperate to defend his actions which led to the raid in the first place.

I'm talking about the presidential election. He doesn't have Trump's baggage, but he also doesn't carry the same clout within the party.

Like I said, it's already proven to be a winning strategy for Dems, multiple times. I'd much prefer if they just started pushing for more populist/socialist policies like their base wants and let Republicans die of centrist obscurity, but at the end of the day both parties are owned by corporations so you gotta take what little progress you can squeeze out of oligarchy.

It's already interwoven into almost every facet of our society. The national highway system? Socialist. Public parks and libraries? Socialist. The New Deal and the five day work week? Yep, socialist. The shit that doesn't work like people being priced out of the market for basic necessities? Capitalist. Millennials and Gen Z recognize that a finite planet with finite resources is not compatible with an infinite growth model. That should be obvious, but boomers are too lead poisoned to put two and two together.

I'm sure because every other attack on Trump has failed in epic fashion. This will be no different.

Please force the Dems to run on real socialist policies. I would love to see that. AOC can be your spokesperson.

Let me know when government takes away all private property. It's like the left doesn't even know what they are advocating for. Next you are gonna tell me that Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries are socialist.

LainaGabranth said:
Socialism and private property can co-exist. Decomodification of housing is a communist system, not a socialist one, dingus.

Once again for the smooth brained... socialism is an economic model used by totalitarian communist and fascist dictatorships. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

djpannda · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
The government taking away all private property will never take hold in America. You don't even know what socialism is, so no, I will not be answering your questions until you learn basic facts.

wait ?.... wait ...wait :::Hold back laughter:::: wtf you talking about..Lolol I don't think you know what Socialism .. as everyone just provided you with example of Socialism in the USA for over 100years.
Sounds like you were just told "Socialism bad" without an actual explanation and now you just Parroting talking points.

Ramblings with key Terms " OBAMA SOCIALISM, CHINA, LAPTOP, Hillary" does not carry weight in a Court of Law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
Once again for the smooth brained... socialism is an economic model used by totalitarian communist and fascist dictatorships. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

wicked self own

Creamu · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
Once again for the smooth brained... socialism is an economic model used by totalitarian communist and fascist dictatorships. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

There is certainly socialism with private property. If your type of socialism is for example run by international actors who want to exploit your people, they will be tempted to abolish private property. This does not mean that this is a inherent attribute of socialism.

Xzi · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
I'm sure because every other attack on Trump has failed in epic fashion. This will be no different.

He doesn't have the office to shield him any more. That's why he's so worried about it this time.

TraderPatTX said:
Please force the Dems to run on real socialist policies. I would love to see that. AOC can be your spokesperson.

Don't worry, they won't. They'll stay centrist and keep letting Republicans out-crazy themselves with candidates like Greene and Boebert. Easy victories, even if they do very little with their positions once elected.

TraderPatTX said:
Let me know when government takes away all private property.

That would be full on communism, not socialism.

TraderPatTX said:
Next you are gonna tell me that Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries are socialist.

There's a big difference between adopting socialism as an economic system and adopting socialist policies within any given framework. These countries have more socialist policies than the US, but they do not have socialist economies. Regardless, the former is enough to give them much happier citizens overall.

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

Dude even Creamu knows the difference between decomodification of housing and socialism as a policy, and he think routers can fuck with your brain. Come on now.

TraderPatTX · Aug 16, 2022

djpannda said:
wait ?.... wait ...wait :::Hold back laughter:::: wtf you talking about..Lolol I don't think you know what Socialism .. as everyone just provided you with example of Socialism in the USA for over 100years.
Sounds like you were just told "Socialism bad" without an actual explanation and now you just Parroting talking points.

Ramblings with key Terms " OBAMA SOCIALISM, CHINA, LAPTOP, Hillary" does not carry weight in a Court of Law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States

Social programs are not socialism. Ask any Scandinavian country.

djpannda · Aug 16, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
Dude even Creamu knows the difference between decomodification of housing and socialism as a policy, and he think routers can fuck with your brain. Come on now.

Im in Tears... When evenCreamu is like "Whoa slow down there Cowboy" lol

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
Socialist programs are not socialism. Ask any Scandinavian country.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Creamu · Aug 16, 2022

'The FBI has “a long and unrelenting history of being corrupt,” Trump wrote. “In the modern era, nothing has changed except that it has gotten far worse. … They spied on my campaign, pushed the FAKE Dossier, and illegally used the FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] Court.”

“NOW THEY RAID MY HOME, ban my lawyers and, without any witnesses allowed, break the lock that they asked us to install on the storage area that we showed them early on, which held papers that they could have had months ago for the asking,” Trump added.

“The whole World was watching as the FBI rummaged through the house, including the former First Lady’s closets (and clothing!), alone and unchecked,” Trump continued. “They even demanded that the security cameras be turned off (we refused), but there was no way of knowing if what they took was legitimate, or was there a ‘plant?’ This was, after all, the FBI!”'

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-calls-fbi-raid-another-form-of-election-cheating_4663503.html

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

If he didn't want the FBI raiding him for stealing secret documents he shouldn't have signed into law the power for the FBI to raid him for stealing secret documents.

Almost like all that posturing about Hillary bit him in the ass!

djpannda · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
Social programs are not socialism. Ask any Scandinavian country.

The US economy is a capitalist democracy with elements of socialism. Some people prefer to call it a mixed economic system.. Why is it always the "patriots" who don't understand basic American history on Government or Economy..?

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

djpannda said:
The US economy is a capitalist democracy with elements of socialism. Some people prefer to call it a mixed economic system.. Why is it always the "patriots" who don't understand basic American history on Government or Economy..?

I mean patriots objectively have to be historically ignorant or in denial to love a country riddled with racism and exploitation.

TraderPatTX · Aug 16, 2022

Xzi said:
He doesn't have the office to shield him any more. That's why he's so worried about it this time.

Don't worry, they won't. They'll stay centrist and keep letting Republicans out-crazy themselves with candidates like Greene and Boebert. Easy victories, even if they do very little with their positions once elected.

That would be full on communism, not socialism.

There's a big difference between adopting socialism as an economic system and adopting socialist policies within any given framework. These countries have more socialist policies than the US, but they do not have socialist economies. Regardless, the former is enough to give them much happier citizens overall.

Keep the hopium alive, my brotha.

TraderPatTX · Aug 16, 2022

djpannda said:
The US economy is a capitalist democracy with elements of socialism. Some people prefer to call it a mixed economic system.. Why is it always the "patriots" who don't understand basic American history on Government or Economy..?

In other words, it's crony capitalism.

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
In other words, it's crony capitalism.

Crony capitalism isn't a thing, because no one who believes in it can point to a system without it. It's just a meaningless buzzword used in place of acknowledging inherent inequalities in the US that are the result of capitalism explicitly.

TraderPatTX · Aug 16, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Looks like you tried to pull a Kevin Clinesmith there. I see you.

LainaGabranth · Aug 16, 2022

I plead the 18th.

Xzi · Aug 16, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
Keep the hopium alive, my brotha.

The ball's already rolling. Garland wouldn't signed off on the warrant and shattered his non-partisan veneer for documents pertaining to the White House's plumbing. Nor would Wray cross the guy who appointed him for nothing.

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