Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

Darth Meteos · Nov 20, 2020

morvoran said:
I just want to say that Biden is not and will not be president of the US, but please, get your hopes up to the point that when you finally realize that Trump won, your sweet, sweet, oh so sweet tears will be so delicious and keep me going for the next 4 years until your side decides to steal the next election.

Cope.
EDIT: wait i can't do one word responses...
Big cope.

UltraSUPRA · Nov 20, 2020

Darth Meteos said:
Cope.
EDIT: wait i can't do one word responses...
Big cope.

I feel like it's you who needs to cope after all the blatant voter fraud.

djpannda · Nov 20, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
I feel like it's you who needs to cope after all the blatant voter fraud.

Supra you soo silly .. please provide proof of your allegation .. other then BIG FOOT SIGNED AFFIDAVITS

notimp · Nov 20, 2020

The Trump campaign on Sunday revised its highly touted suit to block certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s projected Pennsylvania victory, abandoning its most extravagant claims of widespread voter fraud. On Monday, four suits associated with a conservative group that also sought to block election certifications based on broad voter-fraud claims were dropped in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia.

The broad pullback follows several major courtroom defeats last week and highlights the difficulty lawyers are having in backing up Trump’s claims of a “rigged” election.

“It’s an understatement to call the remaining claims weak; they’re absurd,” said Wendy Weiser, who heads a democracy program at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice and isn’t involved in the case. “They’re not even purporting to base any claims on the existence of voter fraud because they haven’t been able to find any evidence to suggest that is even possible.”

Even if it succeeds, the revised Pennsylvania suit, which faces a hearing Tuesday on the state’s motion to dismiss, may not challenge enough ballots to flip a state that Biden is currently carrying by more than 68,000 votes. The Trump campaign had previously focused its claims on the idea that as many as 680,000 mail-in ballots cast in the Democratic strongholds of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh should be invalidated because Republican observers couldn’t adequately monitor the vote-counting for fraud.

The suit now focuses on a narrower category of allegedly “defective” ballots that some voters were allowed to remedy. A number of suits making similar claims were dismissed on Friday by county courts in Philadelphia and its suburbs, with judges saying the Trump campaign and its allies were baselessly asserting errors where none existed. The state has said there were not enough ballots at issue in those suits to change the outcome of the race.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ylvania-suit-abandons-fraud-claims-state-says

This is defecating on democracy's grave.

Or just the usual tactic of the Trump family to deny everything and try to sue people out of existence.

Keeping lawyers on the Pennsylvania case has also proven a challenge for the Trump campaign. Law firm Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP, which had faced public criticism for its role in the case, withdrew from the representation on Friday. Linda Kerns, the lawyer who took over the case, sought to withdraw herself on Monday without giving a reason. Marc A. Scaringi will represent the Trump campaign, she said.

The retreat elicited scorn on Monday from lawyers for the Democratic National Committee, which called the revision “an implicit admission that they lack evidence to support their claims.”

The Trump campaign said Monday it stands by its assertion that ballots were improperly counted without observers present. The revised complaint still mentions the 680,000 mail-in ballots but no longer ties them to a specific claims.

The Trump campaign still has a federal suit seeking to block certification of the election results in Michigan based on broad fraud allegations. It has submitted dozens of affidavits from Republican poll watchers who say they witnessed suspicious activity during the vote count at a Detroit convention center. But a similar state court suit by allies of the Trump campaign was rejected on Friday by a judge who found the affidavits of poll watchers to be “not credible” and “rife with speculation and guesswork about sinister motives.” On Monday, the Michigan Court of Appeals denied a request to reverse that decision.

Like the Trump campaign’s original Pennsylvania complaint, four lawsuits filed last week by plaintiffs associated with conservative group True the Vote claimed widespread fraud in Democratic-leaning counties. The suits in effect asked federal courts to block certification of election results in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia and Pennsylvania unless all votes cast in those states’ largest cities and counties were invalidated.

True the Vote had promised to put forth evidence including “expert reports based on data analysis” comparing mail-in ballots with state voter-registration databases, U.S. Postal Service records, Social Security records, criminal records, motor-vehicle records and other sources “by using sophisticated and groundbreaking programs to determine the extent of illegal voters and illegal votes.”

No reason was given for the suits’ abrupt withdrawal on Monday. Jim Bopp, a lawyer for True the Vote, declined to comment.

This is the actual aim:

A fresh challenge to the Georgia vote count was filed Friday in federal court in Atlanta by conservative lawyer Lin Wood, who is seeking to block Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger from certifying the state’s results because he allegedly failed to follow signature-matching requirements. Georgia, which is currently conducting a manual ballot recount, has a Nov. 20 certification deadline.

Pervert the legal system. Prevent offical declaration of results. Then try to force state legislators to put up electoral college votes, not based on voting results - simply because of the induced delays and pressure from protests on the streets.

This is stealing an election, telling your supporters "but the other side has stolen it prior" - based on unfounded claims.

Also - here is a stupid facebook group name, you could use: "conservative group - True the Vote",maybe pick up the domain while you are at it also.

Much as Smart with digital devices means, app regimes for the most stupid of users, Truth with Trumpers starts to mean fraudulent in intent, without any base in reality.

Oh, and while you are at it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

CORE · Nov 20, 2020

Trump For President.... Oh Wait He Is LOL!

Sicklyboy · Nov 20, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
I feel like it's you who needs to cope after all the blatant voter fraud.

Boy don't make me do this with you, too.

Nah, fuck it, I will.

Provide proof of this "blatant voter fraud".

Xzi · Nov 20, 2020

CORE said:

LMAO look at this moron who thinks Trump gives a fuck about a single soul on Earth other than himself. :rofl2:

CORE · Nov 20, 2020

@Xzi

Trump "Antifa Scum" Clearly He Cares.
Joe Biden "Antifa is an Idea" Just Attack Women and Children and Elderly.

TRUMP
Border Wall To Help prevent Drugs and Human Trafficking and other Criminals.
Unborn Children get a chance in an Orphanage instead of being Aborted.
Brought Back Jobs from Overseas.
Historic Peace Talks with North and South Korea.
Historic Peace Treaty in Middle East.
Jerusalem Declared Embassy Capitol Done what others said they would.
His Presidential Salary Donated to Vets and other things.
Beefed Up Neglected Military.
Bringing Troops Home.

LIST GOES ON.

jimbo13 · Nov 20, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
I feel like it's you who needs to cope after all the blatant voter fraud.

Don't engage Sickly IMO, he's going to antagonize then look for a excuse to mod you if your point is valid.

Just join real Americans in prayer on this the 157th anniversary of Gettysburg address.

"May God smite the evil slave driving Democrats as he did 157 years ago, may the lord Jesus christ remove the democratic yoke of oppression from all humanity, may God almighty keep Joe Bidens and his sons hands off the breasts of children, may our young boys not fear castration from their policies and may he swiftly return Cornpop, Joe and Kamala back to the lake of fire where they belong. --Amen."

Xzi · Nov 20, 2020

CORE said:
Clearly He Cares.

The only thing it's clear that he cares about is lining his pockets with taxpayer dollars and donations from his dumbass supporters. That's the only reason he's even continuing to drag this out now, in fact: so he can send more desperate donation e-mails to rubes living in trailer parks.

Sicklyboy · Nov 20, 2020

jimbo13 said:
Don't engage Sickly IMO, he's going to antagonize then look for a excuse to mod you if your point is valid.

Damn, you're that butthurt over... what exactly?

notimp · Nov 20, 2020

jimbo13 said:
Don't engage Sickly IMO, he's going to antagonize then look for a excuse to mod you if your point is valid.

Hey, so far he isnt Foxi4. Who has actually resorted to dishing out warning posts for 'not editing prior posts' with new developments on this current issue - stating "board rules would force him to do so". And I obviously had malicious intent, because I ignored a bot, whose 'please dont double post' message I've seen thousands of times over nine years - in this instance.

Preventing actual in time posting of news developments on the voter fraud case - that would also be visible to people.

Editing together about 20 of them in a long unseparated posting that mixed, reporting with reactions, with personal deliberations, with reactions on statements days after, ... Sleeping like a baby for a job well done in entirely perverting the efforts on reporting.

Trying to editorially change messaging - without having to admit to do doing so.

Hey at least with posting propaganda memes based in fear and horror motives, and dishing out unfounded claims, you have a reason to ban people.

You are producing a true horrorshow here.

KingVamp · Nov 20, 2020

He lost the recount, so can we say he lost the popular vote 3 times and the election twice?

CORE · Nov 20, 2020

Biden as President is not a Bad thing after all it has helped Wake Up The People not just in USA.

But at the same time there is Great Opportunity to get the USA Economy Booming with some of these awesome Merchandise.

A Simple Search on the Net for Sniffing Joe gets you great Shirts and Sweaters and Mugs Car Bumper Stickers hell some of Camella Too Awesome I have to say I Smell What Joe is Sniffing "Americana"

jimbo13 · Nov 20, 2020

CORE said:
Biden as President is not a Bad thing after all it has helped Wake Up The People not just in USA.

But at the same time there is Great Opportunity to get the USA Economy Booming with some of these awesome Merchandise.

A Simple Search on the Net for Sniffing Joe gets you great Shirts and Sweaters and Mugs Car Bumper Stickers hell some of Camella Too Awesome I have to say I Smell What Joe is Sniffing "Americana"

I favor a 50 state collapse Soviet Union style, Democrat policies crashing the economy will get that ball rolling quickly imo once the evictions start.

The Biden coup against Trump is going to look a lot like when they captured Gorbachev. I look forward to not being tied to the insanity of California and their collapse.

Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Montenegro, 53, and Marcos Raul Arevalo, 34, were charged in a 41-count criminal complaint filed last week. The pair faces one count of conspiracy to commit voter fraud, eight counts of voter fraud, four counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument and four misdemeanor counts of interference with a prompt transfer of a completed affidavit, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office. Montenegro is also facing an additional 10 counts of voter fraud, seven counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument, two counts of perjury and five misdemeanor counts of interference with a prompt transfer of a completed affidavit.

Montenegro submitted over 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October of this year, according to the district attorney’s office. Additionally, Montenegro allegedly falsified, “names, addresses and signatures on nomination papers under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne.”

Montenegro faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison, while Arevalo faces up to seven years.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...cations-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/

LumInvader · Nov 20, 2020

gregory-samba said:
You may call it a formality, but it’s the actual vote that decides who the next President is. I understand your side is claiming they won so it would go against the hive mind to think otherwise, but Biden is only projected to win at this point in time.

Once the Electoral College actually votes no one has won or lost. You also don’t know me or know how I’ll react when the final winner is chosen. I’ll simply state the facts which Biden is now the President Elect, but to state that right now would be lying.

I called it a formality because that's exactly what it is. Your complaint is moot, as there is no probable scenario where Biden loses nor have you presented one. Georgia just finished it's manual recount btw, reaffirming Biden's win there.

For Trump to win, he now requires 37+ of Biden's electors to flip (not happening) or provide evidence of widespread election fraud (he hasn't).

For any Trump supporters who are unhappy that most of the world has already acknowledged Biden's victory, please see Trump's November 2016 claim of "winning the Electoral College in a landslide" weeks ahead of the electors casting their ballots:

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016

notimp · Nov 20, 2020

CORE said:
But at the same time there is Great Opportunity to get the USA Economy Booming with some of these awesome Merchandise.

Endgame of the people keeping you in despair and horror loops touting a 'bigger conspiracy' to everything, trying to keep you away from friends and peers, by becoming more and more extreme, getting more and more emotionaly dependent on the ingroup of people managing those micro cults - sadly is to have you buy their merchandise, or subscribe to their 'news' outlets exclusively. Because by then you'll only have money for one newspaper and a mug left.

But if they can pull in 10% of americans into those schemes... Hey, they'd made themselves another voter base similar to "evangelicals".

That the model, really.

Thats what they are payed for, by moneyed interests.

Thats why the GOP is still supporting outrageous claims, not giving a f*ck about the state of certainly not democracy you are in by now.

Hey why not use an Ideocracy ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ ) avatar, while you are doing that? Perverting even art that tries to point this out?

You have no morals, you hoodwink stupid folks, why even pretend otherwise?

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jimbo13 said:
Montenegro submitted over 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October of this year, according to the district attorney’s office. Additionally, Montenegro allegedly falsified, “names, addresses and signatures on nomination papers under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne.”

Under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne.

Thats a deranged persons scheme to become mayor of a town in the boondocks.

Thats not connected to the national elections.

We know those schemes exist in those cases. Because of literally stupid people, that imagine - they will never be found out, for trying to pull that sh*t off. Who then somehow are caught (because you have checkes for that happening in your voting system), put to jail and done with.

Just for curiosity's sake, I would very much like to know how the heck they scaled this up to 8000 voter fraud attempts per person.

Did they just 'spam', or was there actually more merit to it?

Because even if you coordinate 50 old folks homes to grift their voting ballots, you dont get 8000 ballots under your control.

The conspiracy charge alleges that Montenegro submitted and filed signed nomination papers containing 41 signatures and addresses to the city clerk this summer and that just 18 of the names, addresses and signatures on the nomination papers were validated by the Los Angeles County Registrar- Recorder's Office

Ok, thats not voter fraud, thats filling up 'we support you' signature lists with bull.

The conspiracy charge also alleges that Montenegro was subsequently issued write-in candidate nomination papers and that he "submitted and filed signed write-in candidate nomination papers containing 32 signatures and addresses for fictitious, non-existent or deceased person'' with the city clerk's office.

Ok, those are not national election voting ballots, those also are 'nomination support papers'.

It further alleges that he and co-defendant Marcos Raul Arevalo "and other unknown co-conspirators'' used three post office boxes in Hawthorne as well as Montenegro's home address "as mailing addresses for over 8,000 voter registration applications for fictitious, non-existent or deceased persons, that were submitted for processing to the Los Angeles County Registrar- Recorder's Office and the California Secretary of State.''

Deranged person and a friend, confirmed to try to commit fraud in the dumbest way possible, not believing that there are sanity checks active for stuff like this, and now rotting in jail.

Hey, why stop at 8000 grifted votes, with 3 mail boxes and your own home address? Why not go to 16.000? 160.000? The sky is the limit really! (Or your budget to pay for post office boxes, I mean, you could afford three....)

tabzer · Nov 20, 2020

Lacius said:
As for an example when absence of evidence can be evidence of absence, take the claim that I keep a pet alligator in my basement. If you come over to my basement and see no alligator, no pool, no cage, no alligator food, no blood stains, etc., then you have absence of evidence that functions as evidence of absence. The same could be said for the claim that I own a cat in my house. If you come over to my house and see no cat, no litter box, no cat food, no cat toys, no cat hair, etc., this is an example of absence of evidence equaling evidence of absence.

Thanks for that. When the boundaries of a possibility are established, and that possibility is not found within the boundary, then it is sufficient to say that the possibility does not exist--at least on a tangible basis.

Lacius said:
You made the claim that Trump could still win the election, but you never provided evidence of how this is possible, mathematically or otherwise. When specifically going down the route of widespread voter fraud, you never provided evidence of widespread voter fraud.

The logical pathways for Trump to win the election still possibly exists as long as he has not conceded and there is still time on the clock. These logical pathways are dependent on variables that are radical or undefined--to us. They are up to him. I've only reinforced that there are established boundaries for him to win, not that he will win. You want me to support evidence of the latter. Why are you being pushy? You want me to "provide evidence" or in other words, make his case for him. It's not my job.

Lacius said:
You made the claim I lied about making a mundane edit to my point. Whether or not I made the edit, you never provided evidence of a lie.

I quoted you in a response only to look up to see that it had changed. That's why I questioned if you were retroactively editing your posts. It was a genuine concern, which I brought up. You feigned ingorance--which put us at an awkward position. Either I was misrepresenting what I was responding to, or you had edited your post. It's my word vs. yours on this matter. My word is that you changed it. Of course, the seasoned GBAtemp poster knows that you can edit a post and not have it flagged as being edited, so as long you do it within the time constraint/site's registration of views. I gave you the opportunity to be frank about it, and maintain a respectable position. You decided to turn it into a game of "well, you can't prove it." and deny the fact that you are a human.

Lacius said:
You made the claim that I said lying and pedophilia were comparable in how bad they were, but you never provided evidence.

You called me a pedophile in response to me saying that you are lying to me, and then said that it was asinine to assume that it was intended to be harsher or a form retaliation. This is a demonstration that you are not respecting the values, on a social level, of the weight in pedophilia vs lying. In another argument, I could agree with you. Let's say, if you were arguing that lying was a form of corruption that could consequently enable pedophiles.

Lacius said:
You made the claim that there was another option with regard to you misunderstanding the burden of proof or being disingenuous when discussing the burden of proof, but you never provided another option. For context, you said Amanda had a burden of proof, when in fact she was calling you out for not providing evidence for other claims you made. When I described how you had the burden of proof, you continued to insist you did not. Since this followed my explanation of burden of proof, you either didn't understand burden of proof, or you were being disingenuous. There are no other options that you have demonstrated.

Put up or shut up, because not unlike you, I'm too lazy to find the exact post. As for my recollection, you tried to force me to choose between two scenarios that I didn't agree with. That's so like you btw. I gave a third option, which was more representative of myself, and you called it irrelevant. My line of reasoning, as I recall, was that if my genuine position was irrelevant, so were "people" in general.

Lacius said:
It is possible for there to be widespread voter fraud without there being evidence of widespread voter fraud, but the time to believe there was widespread voter fraud is when there's evidence of widespread voter fraud

That is if you assume that the US democratic process is something to have faith in.

VinsCool said:
Honestly @Lacius and @tabzer I am getting tired of you both playing that little game of "I'm right, no I'M RIGHT!".

Pages and pages of pointless argument over something as simple as "show evidence of voting fraud", simply because each side is refusing to post their sources as long as the other one doesn't.

Sure this is pretty amusing to watch but damn I seriously wonder if you don't have anything better to do with your free time instead.

I won't be exaggerating saying this "argument" has been going for over 100 pages now.

Maybe is it time to maybe back up the statements (both of yours) instead of being so stubborn about waiting for the other person to make a move first?

Just passing by and felt like posting my observation.
Have a good day folks.

I appreciate Vin's post. It shows me the optics of a potential viewer of the thread. Even though I feel like I am misunderstood in this context, I feel that it is helpful for everyone involved.

ut2k4master said:
well one side is consistently posting multiple sources, the other is just making claims. i wouldnt say theyre equal

My disputes were about making false conclusions and pretending that the sources supported those conclusions. The only source I objected to was the Rudy in the Borat movie--in light to the person using it as a source, while rejecting Project Veritas as being substandard. @Ev1l0rd. Haha. :/

Lacius said:
If I were you, I'd delete his offending posts and mine that quote the offending posts.

See. This makes you the jerk (self-censored).

Lacius said:
I hate to say it, but it may be time I leave this site. My free time allegedly isn't being put to good use.

Despite our differences on political matters and narrative control, I do really appreciate your ability to contribute to the homebrew scene and wish you to flourish. If you can walk away from a fight, that will only make you more prepared for the next one. People who take risks, and fail, over and over again, are bound to be successful at some point. The people who never try, are never going to be.

I'm just giving you your own medicine, friend. I don't treat people in disrespectable ways. I try to treat them with the respect that they show. That's me trying to adapt to them.

tabzer · Nov 20, 2020

Still waiting on @monkeyman4412, btw. He can't hang on Lacius's coattails now that he is "gone".

AmandaRose · Nov 20, 2020

Let me debunk all the bullshit from the press conference yesterday.

A look at the claims and reality:

POWELL: “The Dominion Voting Systems, the Smartmatic technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out.”

THE FACTS: No, Dominion does not have any ties to Venezuela, nor does it have a partnership with Smartmatic, according to Eddie Perez, a voting technology expert at the OSET Institute, a nonpartisan election technology research and development nonprofit.

Smartmatic is an international company incorporated in Florida by Venezuelan founders. The company states on its website that it’s not associated with governments or political parties of any country.

___

POWELL: “One of (the software’s) most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes. It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden.”

THE FACTS: That didn’t happen. There’s no evidence that any of Dominion’s systems switched votes for Trump to count as votes for Biden. A statement released by the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, a federal agency that oversees U.S. election security, says there’s no truth to claims that votes cast for Trump were switched to count for Biden or deleted.

___

POWELL, on reports that a U.S. voting server is in Germany: “That is true, it’s somehow related to this but I do not know whether good guys got it or bad guys got it."

THE FACTS: No, it’s not true. Powell is referencing a fictitious story that a server hosting evidence of voting irregularities in the Nov. 3 U.S. election was in Germany.

Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas claimed last week that “U.S. Army forces” seized a server from a Frankfurt office. An Army spokesman described allegations that the Army had recovered servers in Germany as false.

Two voting software companies that conspiracy theorists said were linked to the German server — Scytl and Dominion — have both released statements denying those claims.

___

POWELL: “President Trump won by a landslide.”

THE FACTS: That’s false. Biden has an Electoral College lead of 306 to 232 after The Associated Press on Thursday declared him the winner in Georgia. That's the same margin Trump had in 2016. Back then, Trump described it as a “landslide.” Biden also leads the popular vote by nearly 6 million votes

Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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