The Last of Us Part II sells over 4 million in 3 days

goldensun87 · Jun 29, 2020

Good for them, the game deserves all the success it gets.

lordofcombo · Jun 29, 2020

seanp2500 said:
You play the game do not let the games play you. When you like a game you know cause YOU played it. I have ignored all the people talking about this game and I am happy I have. It is a great game. Lots of fun. If you liked part one it is much better.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYUa4p1M3rlNIT_6elS36k_CgIHPw5N03

HHHHHH
Love the denial attitude.

64bitmodels · Jun 29, 2020

lordofcombo said:
HHHHHH
Love the denial attitude.

"i dont like this game"
"i like it, it was pretty fun"
"stop being in denial faggot, you know you hate it, you know its bad. face facts"

pustal · Jun 29, 2020

leon315 said:
Anyway guys, this game is in developing for 7 goodanm years, i doubt all those sale are able to break even....

It started on the second semester of 2014, so nearly 6 actually.

I don't get all the hate, is it just because it has a gay protagonist? We knew Ellie was gay from Left Behind.

SANIC · Jun 29, 2020

pustal said:
It started on the second semester of 2014, so nearly 6 actually.

I don't get all the hate, is it just because it has a gay protagonist? We knew Ellie was gay from Left Behind.

This is the basic run down practically. I don't know how to do spoiler tags correctly but if any mods can fix it for me that would be nice than you

The crazy thing is that there are people actually sounding like this when people don't like the game who rush to defend it. There are valid reasons for liking the game too like graphics and immersion but to me the story is really at the center of this. This is the story game so the story takes priority before anything else. Boy they screwed up imo

pustal · Jun 29, 2020

SANIC said:
This is the basic run down practically. I don't know how to do spoiler tags correctly but if any mods can fix it for me that would be nice than you

The crazy thing is that there are people actually sounding like this when people don't like the game who rush to defend it. There are valid reasons for liking the game too like graphics and immersion but to me the story is really at the center of this. This is the story game so the story takes priority before anything else. Boy they screwed up imo

I haven't played yet, but what is the issue with the story then?

Deleted member 388531 · Jun 29, 2020

Thought I'd pop in and chime in on this a bit. If you want my thoughts on the game, I'd give it a 7/10. Everything except for the writing is on point.

Deleted User · Jun 29, 2020

Zyvyn said:
I am assuming this just just satire but still

Its not

sarkwalvein · Jun 29, 2020

lordofcombo said:
naughty dog will not let him direct another tlou.

Probably because the franchise has been murdered and there will not be another tlou.

RichardTheKing · Jun 29, 2020

They corrupt the main characters of the last game, and focus way too much on trauma and death and gore. They brutally murder the only likeable male character, and try to villainise Ellie whilst humanising Joel's killer (who is, of course, a very masculine girl) by depicting their interactions with animals - the killer plays fetch with a dog and rescues a zebra from barbed wire, while Ellie's forced to kill that same dog.

Yet another game with undeserved success; there's been far too many of those lately...

gnmmarechal · Jun 29, 2020

I thought the internet hated this

XDel · Jun 29, 2020

Social Marxism in everything hardly constitutes as diversity.

supershadow64ds · Jun 29, 2020

I heard the game was pretty garbo.
I'm not a fan of the Last of Us anyways but here's my big F in chat for any TLOU fans; Now you know how us Pokemon fans feel.

pustal · Jun 29, 2020

RichardTheKing said:
They corrupt the main characters of the last game, and focus way too much on trauma and death and gore. They brutally murder the only likeable male character, and try to villainise Ellie whilst humanising Joel's killer (who is, of course, a very masculine girl) by depicting their interactions with animals - the killer plays fetch with a dog and rescues a zebra from barbed wire, while Ellie's forced to kill that same dog.

Yet another game with undeserved success; there's been far too many of those lately...

I'll have to play to see, but it's a dystopian game, I think it's only natural the characters live in trauma, and the first game already showed some character complexity doing questionable choices to survive. Many didn't agree with Joel's ending decision and they were forced to do it.

Either way, let's say the plot is bad, is that reason to boycott the game? I see tons of games praised here by almost everyone with very crappy plot and characters and nobody is talking about boycotting them. Specially games that are cartoonish of have an anime art style seem to get a free pass in the lack of tri-dimensional characters and a believable plot.

For someone from the outside it does seem like a political motivated outcry. People crying out loud conspiracy theories like 'cultural marxism' or 'brainwashing' doesn't really help at all either.

RichardTheKing · Jun 29, 2020

pustal said:
Either way, let's say the plot is bad, is that reason to boycott the game?

When it's blatant propaganda and ruins everything the first game so carefully constructed? When the first game did not need a sequel whatsoever?
Yes. Most people won't enjoy just how gory and traumatic the story is; most TLoU fans won't enjoy it, due to it destroying beloved characters and adding new characters that didn't need to exist.

FGFlann · Jun 29, 2020

pustal said:
I'll have to play to see, but it's a dystopian game, I think it's only natural the characters live in trauma, and the first game already showed some character complexity doing questionable choices to survive. Many didn't agree with Joel's ending decision and they were forced to do it.

Either way, let's say the plot is bad, is that reason to boycott the game? I see tons of games praised here by almost everyone with very crappy plot and characters and nobody is talking about boycotting them. Specially games that are cartoonish of have an anime art style seem to get a free pass in the lack of tri-dimensional characters and a believable plot.

For someone from the outside it does seem like a political motivated outcry. People crying out loud conspiracy theories like 'cultural marxism' or 'brainwashing' doesn't really help at all either.

The problem with comparisons like this is that the two don't relate in any meaningful way. Desires are not monolithic and different people can want different things from gaming. A person who was invested in the original Last Of Us isn't necessarily going to care about the latest instalment of Anime Tiddy Simulator 2000 and the quality of its writing. But when the sequel to the story driven game they love comes out, and fails to reach that level of quality writing by a large margin, that is something that's going to draw their ire.

sarkwalvein · Jun 29, 2020

I really get annoyed when people claim the game is bad because of propaganda or such arguments, this is not the reason and it really contaminates the discussion.

The game is bad because the storytelling fails badly, it is not well written. It has nothing to do with this tinfoiling ridicule arguments about propaganda and whatnot.

pustal · Jun 29, 2020

RichardTheKing said:
When it's blatant propaganda and ruins everything the first game so carefully constructed? When the first game did not need a sequel whatsoever?
Yes. Most people won't enjoy just how gory and traumatic the story is; most TLoU fans won't enjoy it, due to it destroying beloved characters and adding new characters that didn't need to exist.

Propaganda of what?

GbaNober · Jun 29, 2020

phil87 said:
how is it not okay. have you even played it

-political agenda
-if you don't like it you're "automatically" bigot/sexist/misogynist/homophobic
-false advertising (coming from Druckmann himself & other YouTube footage)
-good gameplay doesn't mean good written story

pustal · Jun 29, 2020

GbaNober said:
-political agenda

What agenda?

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