1. anhminh

    anhminh Pirate since 2010
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    Can't really do much about it since most fan insist on going in blind. Only hope is that they hate it enough to not buy the remaster few years from now on PS5.
     
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  5. lordpsycho

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    This game will fill the 2nd hand and "under $20" bin in a couple of months, I'm sure of that.
    I kinda feel bad for those fans who preordered and bought this game at full price, even the special edition, and also for the developers that were forced to work on this, hopefully they get a better job because the technical work here was outstanding.

    So, what's wrong with this game? Not Ellie being gay, that's cool, not one female character being ripped, that's cool too.

    Selling it like a Joel/Ellie game, where Joel only plays for an hour or less.
    Killing Joel just like that "hey you just saved my life, what's your name? Joel? Joel what? Well nevermind, just die"
    Tommy being shot in the head....but he's fine, he just lost an eye, who dies from a bullet in the head these days?
    Ellie being "I hate you Joel, I can't forgive you let me live at the end of Part 1" over and over and over again, ok we get it, the game that we all love and why you get to sell 4 million copies of this was a mistake.
    All the SJW feminist political agenda: he's the father, but it's my body so I don't care what he says. I don't need your help, man, I'm a woman and I can defend myself! You're a guy? You are enemy and must die, nobody will cry you later.
    Ellie going for revenge, killing hundreds of people....just to get her fingers ripped off and losing her wife/kid/sheeps, so what was the point for all that?

    Good for the ones who enjoyed this, they got their money (and time) worth, for the fans that expected a true sequel and a possible Part III....sorry guys, look in another castle
     
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  6. Izual Urashima

    Izual Urashima GBAtemp Regular
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    It is fun to see how those defending the game hard see anything they perceive against them as "conspiracy theories", while not giving arguments against them.

    Go ahead, prove me wrong with facts, and not feelings. I'm waiting.
     
  7. Daisy

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    Dude somebody literally called this game 'mind control' in this thread.
     
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    Let's see if this "sells below expectations" too.
     
  9. Izual Urashima

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    Mind control and media manipulation are two different things, but this isn't something Sony itself is the sole culprit of. And others' thoughts aren't mine, so I don't see what it has to do with my own opinion.
     
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  10. DoubleDate

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    I think the reason why the game sold so much is because many people werent aware of how bad the story is, and thinking its the same as the previous one. This game could have been so much more and it destroyed everything what the first one was about.
     
  11. Justinde75

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    I am already seeing 30 euro used copies. I'll be picking it up that way. Not going to support them turning one of my favourite games into a stupid revenge story where they constantly tell you "revenge bad"
     
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    I've not read any further posts by you after this one. Zero need to, as you're just flat out completely nuts, hateful, and possibly dangerous. if I was capable I'd probably just ban you and not care what anyone else thought about it.
     
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    It’s the idea that since it’s a story game, the story needs to be at the center of it all, but they clearly disregarded a lot of plot thread from the first game by doing that one character dirty at the beginning. The basic revenge plot was seriously bland if you look at it from a wider scale, and the whole Abby/Ellie contrast they were trying to do falls flat on its face at the end without real fulfillment because the ending is meaningless. It’s theme constantly contradicts itself with what is bad and what is good, then tells you what to think at the end, instead of being the ambiguous shades of gray of the first game. If this game was a spin-off released 4 years ago with different characters and references to Joel or Ellie scattered throughout which leads up to Abby finding the group would be better, but they tried to crunch in forced character development because of the exaggerated violence that needed to seem in place for those characters in the second half. They completely shat on Ellie’s character, and it just doesn’t make sense why they would do all this.

    if some of this doesn’t make sense I tried to do my best without spoiling
     
  14. Taleweaver

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    I KNOW, RITE? THEY ARE FUCKING NAUGHTY!!! :tpi:


    ... Why are we shouting? :glare:
     
  15. Izual Urashima

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    WHAT DID YOU SAID ? I CAN'T HEAR YOU !
     
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    sorry, hetero here... but if any of my children "became" gay, or whatever they need to be (because is their lives) , im going to love them the same way...

    about the game, i never played before. one day, maybe. i don't have any Sony console, so...
     
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    I don't post spoilers for relatively "brand-new" games, and I don't see why I should just to satisfy your curiosity. I'm literally playing the game right now, I don't understand what your problem is. Have you played the game? Because you'd probably know which two scenes I'm talking about, given what happens in the story later.
     
  18. Agusto101

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    Enjoy it probably thats the entire sells for the game, I mean it sold more than ff 7 remake people are just stupid.
     
  19. GoldenBullet

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    I understand the hate for the game even though I liked it myself. I think some people don't get that the point of the game is for you not to enjoy most of it and once you understand that, you can appreciate the game more. The game said "screw you" to the players and a lot of people (not all) are butt hurt about it. There is a lot more to the moral than "revenge is bad"

    The game has a lot of problems such as pacing in the endgame, structure, and a little bit too much of social awareness. I think there were ways to make everyone happy without sacrificing too much of the given plot.

    The game seems like it was made to win an Oscar with the shocks and twists (like it or not) and the structure of the story was affected by that. Nevertheless, the gameplay is pretty great and replayable, the story is good standalone and definitely isnt a 1/10 (at least a 7 from pessimist standpoint). I personally thought it is a great piece of art that surpasses the original.
     
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  20. subcon959

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  21. Taleweaver

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    WHAT!!?? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!! :P

    (okay... I couldn't resist)
     
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  23. SG854

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    Naughty Dog doesn't like to use the word fun but the word engagement. But is the story being brutal and nihilistic really engaging when it causes emotional fatigue?
     
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