1. lordofcombo

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    Let's deconstruct your opinion a little bit:
    ''so everything you don't like in life you go online ranting about it do you'', there's thousands of game we don't play, did you see us ranting about them? I hate manchild games like Smash bros with passion, do you see me flooding forums about my hate about it?
    People usually get mad only for things they care about. Neil Cuckman betrayed the trust we had in him.
    ''how has this worked for you so far.''
    Oh, it worked so well, trust me, this is the first time Naughty dog being called out for their games, they had a perfect score so far.
    Those 4 million that simps keep talking about were nothing compared to the sales expectations from Naughty Dogs, Spiderman and God of war don't have the fanbase as The last of US, the game probably should be around the 10 million marks.
    What I hate the most are what called reverse scumbag people meaning the people who praise a thing just because they saw others insulting it, emigre is the most obvious guy. They always have their Ace card ready ''In my opinion''.
    But the scum of the scum are the guys that use this phrase:
    ''TLOU 2 is better than TLOU1''
    I mean how much you must be a fucktard to say that?
    I'm usually a very pragmatic person but when it comes to those types of people, I fucking lose it.

    Should we give TLOU2 a 4/10? well yes and no. While I disagree to give TLOU 2 a 4/10 I think it's mainly because of how people cared about the sequel and got disappointed so hard. I don't think that 100k people downvoting a game is something to be cheerful about it
    TLOU2 perfected, and I mean perfected everything except one thing: The story.
    But the problem with TLOU 2 is its main power is in its narrative. Usually, that kind of thing will get 7.5/10.
    I still think first TLOU is the best game ever made story-wise (well there's MGS and Legacy of Kain) and to fail this miserably is really way beyond me.

    In conclusion, cuckman had a vision and an opinion regarding certain subjects that not many people agree with him about it.
    He wanted to force them on his player base. It failed miserably and showed that he is a coward, why didn't he tell us beforehand about everything: LGBT stuff and major story shift?
    He knew that we will not like it so he concealed that info until the leaks. While some hate LGBT stuff ,im personally not interested in those themes, I wanna see what Anita Sarkeesian calls Objectified women, Lara Croft, and the likes.
    Do that make me homophobic and misogynistic? to you maybe...
    Guess ill go back to days gone,the real sequel to cuckman TLOU1.
    What a sad day to be a fan...\
    Cheers
     
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    The language you use man, shows you deep this alt right mentality you are, geesh.

    TLU 1 sold 7 million copies, GoW sold 10 million and Spiderman 13.2 million lol. The remastered only spiked sales for the incoming part II.

    We knew Ellie was lesbian since TLU 1, lol, there's an entire episode called Left Behind about that. Freeking Sarkeesian has nothing to do with it, you guys are invoking her just to add a random hate figure to the mix.

    Ellie was a gay character on TLU 1 that reached adulthood on TLU 2, and for some reason you are surprised and offended she continued to be gay, lol. Let me guess, you expected conversion "therapy" in a zombie apocalypse?

    Edit: we came a long way...:

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    all i can say is i loved the game including the story, and its has not turned me gay surprisingly........ madness i tell you just madness. think neil done a great job but hey if you can do better make your own game.................. whats that I hear, you cant
     
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    i played left behind, found it ok, didn't mind lesbian stuff at all there mostly because it wasn't forced like in the second.
    Let me be clear, I'm not a fan of Neil, a matter of fact I don't like him as much as the next guy, he had his ups and downs.
    For you defending him like that is really weird.I'm dissing him cause he botched what could have been a masterpiece.

    Lol at that remastered spike, TLOU1 has always been a seller, thanks to various factors (bundles, price cut, remastered etc).
    I mean the game is damn fine, even its multiplayer still stands out.
    Let's be honest here please for a minute:
    suppose the game was everything we and I quote ''haters'' expected to be, will the leaks harm sales or game notoriety? I'm pretty sure it won't.
    Even pewdipie whos really a ''PC'' couldn't defend it.I'm sure if he didn't want to cater to all 105 million subscribers he will anally feed cuckman those double CDs.

    man...after all the hate we have for this sequel, there is also a deep sadness that almost gives me tears.
    That something I care for so much gets destroyed like this. To some extent, I'm not mad entirely at naughty dog,im mad at myself to care deeply for a game that got butchered this bad.

    All i can say is...Bravo Neil.

    Now let's theorize about Neil wanting to atone for his fuck up in an impossible third sequel:
    pretending this was all a dream? sending Ellie and Tommy to avenge Joel?
    no matter how I see it, Neil, you just fucked it up.
    wasn't waiting for Tsushima butt gotta say I'm tempted now
     
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    And yet it didn't surpass neither of those games.

    LOL. The game is a massive sales success, it is literally breaking records. The ideia that is failing commercially is a fantasy of yours. Neither Neil nor Naughty Dog nor Sony will want to atone for anything. Money talks and people sure are voting with their wallets.

    Also funny how you prove me right:

    It isn't anime but boy, the japanophile sure will excuse a bi-dimensional character in cliché samurai vibe. But there isn't gay characters in it for sure, so no outcry for boycott.
     
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    I don't know where to begin with postal, he's way beyond blind.

    ''And yet it didn't surpass either of those games.''
    It fucking did !!!!!!
    TLOU1 is around 20 fucking million, not 7 million. The guy that pointed 7 million was talking about the ps3 version.

    ''LOL. The game is a massive sales success, it is literally breaking records. The idea that is failing commercially is a fantasy of yours.''

    Unfortunately, it's not my fantasy,4 million is good for any other game but not for a AAA sequel that everyone was waiting for.

    I'll let you feed me my hat when TLOU2 reaches 20 million.
    Why I don't think that it will not reach it is because of the bad reviews this game is getting. not me wishing it to fail.

    I'm not crazy to think this game will not do 7 to 8 million sales, I'm saying you're the one with fantasies by thinking it could reach 20 million.

    One could argue 4 million is a relative success, I even think naughty dog can call it even by selling only 1 million copies.
    But going from 20 million to let's say 7 to 9 million copies is an apparent downgrade (apparently not to some geniuses here)
    I'll come back here and lick everybody's boots and bow to everyone defending this game when it reaches 20 million.
    And I'm counting the inevitable remaster on the PS5. Until then I bid you farewell.
     
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    That doesnt really give it a political agenda though- its just calling out problems in society we need to fix. good point though.
    Im talking about games like last of us 2 that try to force their message upon you while having a horribly written narrative
    I don't see many games like that in the current industry outside of the aforementioned outliers
     
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    And with the PS4 10 million, where are you getting 20 million? And like you said, the remaster sales are only that high due to continuous bundles.To see the success of the game, of course you have to look at the PS3, it was when it was released, and it didn't hit anyway as near as the Part II numbers.

    What are you talking about? It is literally breaking records, again. It's the fastest selling game of all time in the PS4. Not Uncharted, nor Spiderman nor God of War hit that mark at launch. It sold more in 3 days than Final Fantasy VII Remake
    altogether.

    Done deal, I'll leave a Chrome marker on this page. That's more than any game thus far, bur won't be surprise if it makes it, specially considering it'll be compatible with the PS5.
     
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    4 million sold is good to naughty dog,
    but 4 million doesn't tell if 100% of people liked or disliked the game the only sure
    factor of sale is because of the hype and undeniably false marketing.
     
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    Why people get their feelings so hurt with this crap? I mean I saw the trailers and they made me want to vomit. Why would anybody think playing the game and its story would make you feel any different?
     
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    FFVII Remake sold 3.5 million copies in the first 3 days, there is no info about the current total but it most likely exceeded 4mil by now.

    FFVII can be considered the most popular JRPG, but even so, RPG's aren't a genre for everyone and they are not the most popular among the masses in the west. FIFA 2020, which is an yearly game, managed to sell 10 millions during it's release month.
     
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    You know what, it's specially hard trying to discuss why this game is disappointing and what makes the game bad when the forum is full of loud homophobes. /rant
     
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    Sales also dropped by 80% in the second week. many people who didn't like the game are upset how they treated Joel
     
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    Since you're cherry picking, why didn't you mention 42% from Spiderman?
    Also, this game has no competition because no triple A game released in this period
     
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    Why are *you* cherry picking? Spiderman isn't a sequel, Last of Us 4 is. If you need the full picture:

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    If you study economics you can learn how early adopters work on technology: huge boost on the first days, and then the sales slow and increase gradually for other enthusiasts and casual buyers. Video games particularly have a huge set of early adopters, so it will always Spike and then fall. The fall is greater on sequels as most other players won't play a sequel without playing the previous titles. If the game is good, what you'll see is what you see here: a lot of people will buy the first game(s) first to play the sequel later.
     
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    So now it's about sequels or not? I used Spiderman because it's also a PS4 exclusive. And yes, there is spike and decline in sales. But 80% flop when no competition is around is a pretty hard decline,in my opinion.
     
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    They play a big role. The fans who played the first game and are hyped for the second will want to buy soon. The people who didn't play will be going through the games before, specially if story driven. Their first few days measured fan reception to a certain length, but of course it will be seen better in the long run. For the rest of the people, we'll have to wait and see, but beating records tends do be a fine indicator.

    Uncharted 4 is a good comparison because it's a sequel, it's the forth, but with the trilogy remastered, is an honorary second game, had a similar fall and ended up selling 16 million in the long run.

    As for God of War, it's more like a soft reboot, many just played it without touching the old games.
     
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    Considering God of War (PS4) isn't numbered, I imagine a lot of people - particularly those who weren't around for the PS2 era - probably didn't even know it's supposed to be a sequel, and just thought it was a new series, or a complete reboot, or something.
     
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    There's a Last of Us 4? Damn
     
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