Lmfao. That is the biggest crock of BS I've seen today & is something directly from Trumps Twitter. Anything you say from this point on has absolutely zero value. Have you even LOOKED to see what the Liberals have done? I'll assume no. Because just like everything else (and I've said this before), you Trump loyalists seem to know everything without having read it. I hope you eventually run with your tail between your legs like that other user did, becasue they couldn't tolerate being "bullied" by a supposedly Liberal majority site.
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Lmfao. That is the biggest crock of BS I've seen today & is something directly from Trumps Twitter. Anything you say from this point on has absolutely zero value. Have you even LOOKED to see what the Liberals have done? I'll assume no. Because just like everything else (and I've said this before), you Trump loyalists seem to know everything without having read it. I hope you eventually run with your tail between your legs like that other user did, becasue they couldn't tolerate being "bullied" by a supposedly Liberal majority site.
With BBC Documentaries. *sarcasm*
BBC Documentary (current) on the rise of China, the state sponsored 'disappearances' of booksellers in Hongkong and the Uyghur concentration camps. They have enough footage to make a good case.
China: A New World Order - Season 1 Episode 1
China: A New World Order - Season 1 Episode 2
I'm not opening a separate thread for it, but if you want to broaden your horizon, watch it.
It also goes into Chinas 'communist party movement against corruption within its party', which - was mostly show - and there to eradicate the remains of the other side of a power struggle when Xi Jinping grabbed power. Anything to get you off of the romantic notion, that corruption is there to be fought and eradicated by 'the good guys'. Not how this works.
Beats me, why normal people havent trashed facebook news algos long ago..
(I read mainstream media, and I've known about this, for maybe four, five years?) In the Uyghur case, developments in Kashmir are newer, but also not surprising at all (the conflict there is ongoing for what five decades now?).
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Isn't it a Liberal sin to generalize? Well, Congress has done a lot; a lot of blocking whatever the Republicans try to pass. They've also done a lot of witch hunting and spent years trying to undermine Trump. When those two things are their main priority you have to wonder why I might not be aware of anything good they've actually got done. Humor me though, what actual legislation have they've passed that has served any purpose other than to fight the Republicans or discredit Trump?
Oh, and for the record I don't use Twitter. The President commenting on that shitty platform isn't enough to get me to visit the site. You couldn't pay me to use modern main stream social media sites.
1) Ask yourself about what's a sin and what's not. The GOP are supposed to be the experts on Christianity.
2) Blocking? Did you completely forget about the GOP's pledge to block all Dem legislation to make Obama a 1 term President? Hypocrite much?
3) Witch hunt, according ONLY to the right.
4) Spending years trying to undermine Trump. You had your time when Obama was in office. Funny how it's not so great when the shoes on the other foot. Is it? Again, hypocrite much?
5) "why I might not be aware of anything good they've actually got done" Sounds familiar. Ever heard this?
"No, we accepted the statements in the report as a factual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate." -William Barr
Or how about this one?
Corey Lewandowski: The Mueller report was very clear. There was no collusion. There was no obstruction.
Alisyn Camerota: That's not what the Mueller report said, Corey.
Corey: It absolutely says that...
Alisyn: ... Did you read the Mueller report?
Corey: No, I never did
6) So you want me to hold your hand and lead the way for you, becasue as always, the right is clueless when it comes do doing their own fact checking. Fox or Trump just spews something out and it's automatically fact to you lot. Figure it out yourself, there's plenty of extremely easy to obtain information on this subject out there for you. But you admitted yourself that you didn't even look and are not knowledgeable on the topic. Yet, you just KNOW that the Liberals have done absolutely nothing. Refer back to #5. Smh.
Yawn, it was Mueller's job to investigate the accusations of collusion, which he found to be wrong. It's sort of like how Hillary lost the election and voters still claim that Trump isn't their President. Not being able to deal with something is understandable, but denying reality isn't. The issue is over, holding onto it is your choice, but I've moved on.
Yeah, the Republicans did a lot of their own blocking, but they aren't they don't hold a majority of Congress now and I was referring to current session of Congress.
You're right about various sins as the Liberals don't have moral values, but they treat generalizing as some sort of reprehensible offense, well, at least when it's someone else doing it to them.
It was a Witch hunt, because of the way it turned out. If Trump was actually guilty of collusion I wouldn't be denying it. I'd laugh and move on, but he wasn't found to be guilty of it so I didn't laugh and did move on.
I'm also not a Republican, but I did vote for Trump and I'm going to vote for him again. If it's Liberal vs X I'm always going to vote for X.
I mainly depend on the media (all sides, I visit 20 some news/entertainment outlets/sites daily) to report about what Congress has done. I don't watch their live sessions. I was serious when I asked you what they've actually passed regarding things that weren't used to block Republican legislation or to attack the President.
Ah yes, China's biggest PR ally Donald Trump is totally running cover for them. Perhaps if the media weren't too busy reporting Breaking News whenever he tweets they'd have time to report real news.
A corporation operates on slightly different principles than the U.S. government, "absolute loyalty" is something he's probably more used to, and it's the optimal scenario for those kinds of talks. As for any accusations of "stupidity", that's your subjective opinion. Given the industry he's in and his life-long success (Inb4 people who know very little about business start shouting "bankruptcy king" and other assorted nonsense) chances are his intelligence is above average, he's simply an eccentric, which doesn't resonate with you.
I do object, on a number of grounds. There are reasons why this conversation took place in July as opposed to any other time, if you consider the circumstances. It was a congratulatory call to a newly-elected President - that's already superior timing than Obama's "flexibility" pledge before he was even re-elected. It's also unclear whether this *was* an attempt to gather dirt on Biden as opposed to a more general attempt to discuss matters of corruption with the new Ukrainian leader and build a bridge of co-operation to fight it. As for me "projecting" what "rich people be like", read your own argument - you expect Trump to act a certain way because "you've held dinners before". That's the definition of a subjective opinion, *you're* projecting, based on your own experience. Wealth has nothing to do with this, logic and reason do. If Trump didn't want to leave a literal paper trail, he wouldn't have.
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I didn't say he was running cover for them, I said he simply doesn't care enough to mention it. As the president he's definitely been briefed about it or at least been made aware of it. The only concern Trump has in relation to China is making sure that we can continue exploiting their cheap labor to the fullest possible extent. He doesn't care about human rights abuses in Hong Kong, and he definitely doesn't care about genocide targeted at Muslims of any kind.
His background is precisely the reason he ended up such an inept fool. He was born into wealth, and that wealth was enough to make any and every mistake he made throughout his life disappear. I can only hope that Americans are starting to wake up to the fact that a nation of laws can only remain as such when those laws apply to everybody.
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So we are going to lock her up after all, huh?
On a more serious note, we'll see where this goes. I don't want to stray too far from the main subjects into the weeds of geopolitical issues across the globe or Trump's character flaws. I'll pop back in to see how the thread is doing once there are some meaningful updates, it's been nice taking to you again. Next time I'll bring my book of Trump aphorisms, seeing that you said he "isn't funny" - they're hilarious. Yes, I have a book of Trump aphorisms, don't question it, it was a gift. I think the gift giver was trying to make a joke, but it backfired tremendously when the book turned out to be a genuinely fun read.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...pes-us-doesnt-release-trump-putin/3784764002/
relevant.
It looks like this is going to be a bumpy ride hold on to your tails ppl.
in before folks say he is a genius doing the Art of the deal.
relevant.
It looks like this is going to be a bumpy ride hold on to your tails ppl.
in before folks say he is a genius doing the Art of the deal.
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Indeed. It's somewhat unsurprising that the server which is storing Trump's "sensitive" foreign phone call logs reportedly has calls from both Putin and the Saudi royals on it.
Also today: Trump's envoy for Ukraine resigned, and Trump turned to the NRA to ask for help in defending against impeachment.
Dont worry, His biggest fans are either going to pretend They didnt scream about Hillary's emails, or resort to whataboutism.
Like i said, his fans think that he is right no matter what he does.
Now I am sick of him and I am now ignored Trump. No more listen to him on television. He is a monster and a heartless and hyprocisy. He is very disgusting. He doesn't existed anymore. No more watched about him and read about him. He is the same as all presidents in two same commons: hyprocisy and corrupted! Political sucks!!!
That's fine, I called out your projection but gave mine. I'm aware of that and invited you to dismiss it in turn. The point is perspective colors the lens you see "how you think something happened". Our minds naturally will attempt to fill any void in information to streamline into a narrative that we process. I'm merely trying to point out one perspective on a matter which little to no information doesn't point to truth or reality. It's only speculation.
Here's where we shouldn't disagree. Trump still broke the law given that transcript is accurate. Did the previous administration do so as well? Who knows? Is it something of suspect? Potentially, but without trump requesting a bipartisan investigative committee within either the senate or the house then it will continue to lack the needed facts to proceed. Something that republicans could have launched for years, they still could do so in the senate even to this day.
I will say I expect Trump to also act a certain way because of his life before presidency. We have some history available to us, and wasn't that concerned with hiding the mess. Remind me again about the Trump charity foundation? We can find other examples of questionable conduct but I'm keeping this as simple as possible.
Any why is it so bad that an investigation found no collusion? If there were claims of collusion when Obama were president, or if Hillary had won, the same people crying witch hunt would be all over investigations and support them 100% and you know it. Can you stop with the hypocrisy? Another bit of info, I did not vote for Hillary. I also did not vote for Trump. So the Hillary comments can stop also. I don't like her, but you just assumed. About the report. You say there was no collusion, which to me is a GOOD thing. I'm GLAD there was none directly found. But there were MANY instances of obstruction and you know FULL well he would be up shit creek if he were not sitting President.
Don't hold a majority of congress now & you were referring only to the current congress? Funny how you can pick and choose exactly when things fit your agenda and when they don't. One second it's Obama this Hillary that!!!! And the next its... oh.. I was talking only about the here and now. Which is it ? Can't have both. And you trying to suddenly cut out the past is another fine example of your extreme hypocrisy issues.
Libs don't have moral values. LMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAO!!!! Hypocrite. Hypocrite. HYPOCRITE!!! Are you REALLY saying that Trump and his admin are incredibly filled with morale and value? Jesus efffffing.... I just... WHAT!?!?!?! LOL!
So how many people were indicted again in the investigations? Can you look up that number for yourself? Not quite the Witch Hunt you thought it was, now was it? No collusion, yet plenty of people indicted and many counts of obstruction found. Why do you all keep acting like just becasue there was no collusion, that he is 100% innocent of everything else? You keep screaming NO COLLUSION while turning a completely blind eye to everything else.
So you're not a Republican, yet you will vote Republican every single time over a Dem. You're completely full of crap. You know full well your a Republican. And that "I will ALWAYS vote xover Lib" garbage is a complete waste of a vote. What you've just proved to everyone is that you are FULL ON party over country. You've just admitted that no matter how horrendous or terrible of a person "X", you would still vote for them over a Liberal. Just pathetic.
Another thing you've just admitted to is the equivalent of saying you've never read the Mueller report. "Oh... I know all about the hearings. Did I ever watch them? Nope. But I did read some stuff on some web pages about it after the fact that may or may not be accurate. But I can't be 100% positive because I never saw it for myself." Seriously? This is just a joke at this point. And not a funny one. It's disgusting. And it's fine if you were serious about the question you asked, but the fact remains that I'm not going to point you to a bunch of sites with that information. If have 20 or so sites a day you visit for news... I'm sure you can figure it out. Maybe. After your posts I have some pretty strong doubts.
I'm finished talking to you about it all though. There's no point. Enjoy your weekend.
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