Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

CzeroXCI · Oct 24, 2018

Freezerbomb said:
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? YES
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to? N/A
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? NO, NOT WITH SXOS
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? NO
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? NO
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? YES
SX OS used? YES
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? YES
Trimmed .XCI? YES
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? NO
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? NO
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? NO
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.9
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N/A
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? NO
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? NO
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? NO
Used DevMenu? NO
Installed any .NSP? YES, BUT THEN RESTORED FROM BACKUP BEFORE GOING ONLINE
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? NO
Did you play any .NSP installed online? NO
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? NO
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? YES, BUT ONLY .XCI
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? YES, TOO MANY TO LIST
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? NO
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? NO
AutoRCM? YES
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? NO
Did you install the exFAT update offline? NO
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? YES
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? YES
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? YES
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N/A
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? NO
Console/Account Region(s) USA
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? MODCHIP (AliExpress trinket clone)
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? NO
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred) N/A
Additional Comments

I've been using CFW since OFW 4.1.0. I'm still not banned.

AutoRCM is usually enabled. I enter OFW through the SXOS option.

I allow the eFUSEs to burn when updating to avoid an eFUSE count mismatch.

I used emunand on OFW 6.0.0, but then deleted it before updating to 6.0.1. I didn't restore from a backup afterwards.

I've used ReiNX and RajNX in the past, but always restored from backup before going online. I don't trust them to keep me safe from a ban. Open source software is not the best choice for security

So you really think that a not free solution is more safe than an open source ? Marketers loves you !

Freezerbomb · Oct 24, 2018

CYBZERO said:
So you really think that a not free solution is more safe than an open source ? Marketers loves you !

The cost doesn't effect anything. There are plenty of free closed sourced software out there.

zatixiz · Oct 24, 2018

Freezerbomb said:
The cost doesn't effect anything. There are plenty of free closed sourced software out there.

Uhm no? There is no such thing as a "free closed sourced software". If consumers have access to software it doesn't matter if it's open source or not. You can always disassemble and analyse it to steal the work anyways.

Open source software is almost always better in the way that you get the support from a huge community and you don't have to worry about disassembling stuff to check for malicious code

Freezerbomb · Oct 24, 2018

zatixiz said:
Uhm no? There is no such thing as a "free closed sourced software". If consumers have access to software it doesn't matter if it's open source or not. You can always disassemble and analyse it to steal the work anyways.

Open source software is almost always better in the way that you get the support from a huge community and you don't have to worry about disassembling stuff to check for malicious code

What? Closed source software means that the source code is kept secret. It has nothing to do with cost. Skype for example.

List of free closed source apps
https://www.linuxlinks.com/closed-source/

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DownwardSpyral · Oct 24, 2018

zatixiz said:
Open source software is almost always better in the way that you get the support from a huge community and you don't have to worry about disassembling stuff to check for malicious code

So GIMP is better than Photoshop?

zatixiz · Oct 24, 2018

Freezerbomb said:
What? Closed source software means that the source code is kept secret. It has nothing to do with cost. Skype for example.

List of free closed source apps
https://www.linuxlinks.com/closed-source/

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Sure, the original source code is kept secret. But it still doesn't prevent anyone with access to the software from disassembling/decompiling it..

To prove my point, here's Skype disassembled:

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

DownwardSpyral said:
So GIMP is better than Photoshop?

My statement doesn't apply to everything ofc.
But take the Linux kernel as an example. If Linux was "closed source" it would be nowhere as good as it is today.

Same goes with SX OS etc. Team xecuter has a lot of smart people but if SX OS was open source you'd have a much bigger group of smart people working on the project and I can guarantee you that SX OS would be MUCH better.

I'm not sure if you guys are used to open source development but it's not like it's a huge cluster f*ck of people just pushing code all over the place.
If done correctly it's still an organized project with multiple people reviewing your code before it's accepted into the master/production branches.

Freezerbomb · Oct 24, 2018

zatixiz said:
Sure, the original source code is kept secret. But it still doesn't prevent anyone with access to the software from disassembling/decompiling it..

To prove my point, here's Skype disassembled:

That's a lot of work! Nintendo ain't got time for that! It's a trillion times faster and easier to just read original source code.

zatixiz · Oct 24, 2018

Freezerbomb said:
That's a lot of work! Nintendo ain't got time for that! It's a trillion times faster and easier to just read original source code.

What? My original reply was based off your statement:

I've used ReiNX and RajNX in the past, but always restored from backup before going online. I don't trust them to keep me safe from a ban. Open source software is not the best choice for security

I made my comment specifically based on the bold part. Take this from someone who works in the field.
I am 99% sure that Nintendo hosts their servers on a distro based off the Linux kernel. The Linux kernel is open source and that would mean that you're implying that Nintendo's servers aren't secure or Nintendo doesn't prioritise their security because they use open-source software

Let's not get more off-topic, hit me up if you want to talk more open-source. I'd love to explain more!

Edit:
There is a saying that engineers use to explain this which is: Security through obscurity.
Have a read on that

NoNAND · Oct 24, 2018

Yay im finally banned from onlime services!
^__^

Draxzelex · Oct 24, 2018

NoNAND said:
Yay im finally banned from onlime services!
^__^

Would really appreciate a ban report ^__^

NoNAND · Oct 24, 2018

Draxzelex said:
Would really appreciate a ban report ^__^

The usual sx os haters stuff
Hekate hbl nsps emulators custom hb apps as nsps save editing with checkpoint auto rcm downgraded from 6.0.1 to 6.0.0 with choi

Draxzelex · Oct 24, 2018

NoNAND said:
The usual sx os haters stuff
Hekate hbl nsps emulators custom hb apps as nsps save editing with checkpoint auto rcm downgraded from 6.0.1 to 6.0.0 with choi

Draxzelex said:
Would really appreciate a ban report ^__^

jacopastorius · Oct 25, 2018

Is there the risk of getting banned just for using online mode for wireless pro controller?

aerios169 · Oct 25, 2018

jacopastorius said:
Is there the risk of getting banned just for using online mode for wireless pro controller?

Any hack Can be cause of ban righ now, if nity detects that you are using a cfw bye. Bye, if it isn’t any related to hack like use a 8bit adaptador or something like that, you dont have to worry

Freezerbomb · Oct 25, 2018

jacopastorius said:
Is there the risk of getting banned just for using online mode for wireless pro controller?

You won't get banned as long as you use stealth mode or 90DNS. I'm assuming by "online mode" you mean Bluetooth connections and not eShop/online play.

I'm also assuming you have a clean nand backup that you are going to restore at some point. Otherwise yes, you will probably be banned no matter what you do.

jacopastorius · Oct 25, 2018

Freezerbomb said:
You won't get banned as long as you use stealth mode or 90DNS. I'm assuming by "online mode" you mean Bluetooth connections and not eShop/online play.

I'm also assuming you have a clean nand backup that you are going to restore at some point. Otherwise yes, you will probably be banned no matter what you do.

Yes, let's assume i have a nand backup and i do not open eShop or go for online play in a game. Just use bluetooth for device connections. In that case i am safe

Freezerbomb · Oct 25, 2018

jacopastorius said:
Yes, let's assume i have a nand backup and i do not open eShop or go for online play in a game. Just use bluetooth for device connections. In that case i am safe

Yes, you are safe as long as you use Stealth Mode, 90DNS, or delete your network settings.

But there is one exception if you're not using SXOS stealth mode. If you go near a Nintendo Zone hotspot your switch will connect automatically and you could get banned.

Novalok · Oct 25, 2018

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to? N/A
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? Y
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N. I stay offline with Emunand, but it was not made with a clean-Hackfree NAND
Trimmed .XCI? N
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? Y
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.8 i think
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Do not use
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? Only in offline EMUNAND
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? CFW and OFW
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? GCDumptool only. While connected to Internet
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? N
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Never cleared logs
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N But was deleted in EMUNAND
Console/Account Region(s) US
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? SX Pro
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? N
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred)
Additional Comments

Another Month goes by, another month unbanned. This time I did change things up. I created an EMUNAND for somewhat Piracy related things. (I know this is said alot, but It was to test games I may want to buy) Installed NSPs in EMUNAND specially Dark Souls. Enjoyed it, so booted back to CFW(Emunand disabled) and purchased Dark Souls. Have been playing it in OFW and CFW(NON-EMUNAND) Still 0 piracy related activites in non EMUNAND environments. Not to sure what else to add.

So as a re-cap I play in the following settings.
OFW - ESHOP purchases online.
CFW (NON-EMUNAND) - Self Dumped XCI with Cert and Eshop Purchases online.
CFW (EMUNAND) - 100% offline, Airplane Mode the works, playing NSPs I do not legally own etc.

Will try and answer any questions if there are any, but may miss them so PM if you 100% want an answer.

fadx · Oct 25, 2018

Thought I'd update with recent activities and with the new questions, old post here: https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-switch-banning-hub-warning.508710/page-69#post-8210102

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? Y
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N (I have used SX OS EmuNAND though, just wasn't with a completely clean NAND as I don't have a fully clean NAND)
Trimmed .XCI? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y (just accidentally booted SX OS with internet still active a couple of times before they added the server blocking to the CFW)
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.1
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? OFW (Updated both XCI and NSP)
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y - Hekate,Retroarch, ftpd, Checkpoint, ChoidujourNX
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? Y (I have done this but I ended up restoring a 5.1 NAND and then officially updating it from there because of exFAT issues)
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? Y
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: 4.1.0
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Console/Account Region(s): EU
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with?: Trinket M0 internal, previously used TegraRCMSmash
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y, I did previously but I switched to pins 1 & 10 recently.
Additional Comments: I've also updated officially from the same firmware multiple times on a fuse count where I shouldn't be on that firmware.

dcx6723 · Oct 25, 2018

I recommend : SX OS with official system setting options to not send error report of game crash, play online only in OFW with your cartridge and play .NSP/Homebrew in SX OS Mode and you're good!

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