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do you think Trump sealed his own fate?
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I can't stand trump at all and voted 3rd party. it was either 3rd party or vote between a crook (trump) and a criminal hypocrite ( hillary). anyways.. do the lot of you know that bill clinton made the law that trump is using and obama ENFORCED the SAME law that trump is enforcing, right? also, we have parents that get sent to prison, every single day..whether they're innocent or not, what's the difference between prisoners that lose their kids to the system or illegals that get sent back for breaking the law?
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Not a meme. Trump is trying to create a sixth military branch, "Space Force."
https://www.popsci.com/trump-military-space-force
You forgot to point out that both GWB and Obama attempted immigration reform of some type and it was rejected by the mainline GOP leadership both times.
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also, how is trumps lame ass equivalent to hitler? where is the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of deaths from genocide at? c'mon, get real...
A bunch of the footage CNN was airing was actually during Obama's era. But this isn't even bad
Selling stuff is fine, business is business. Journalists need to make money.
The liberals in Canada have driven most parts of the country into energy poverty. Especially Ontario which pays about 4x what a reasonably priced energy safe place like Pennsylvania pays. This began by the liberals before Trudeau who banned the use of clean burning coal (cheapest form of energy) and the use of hydroelectricity (probably the most expensive form) Factor in the liberal carbon tax which raises the cost of living and to top it all off: the minimum wage hike to 14 dollars to compensate. This perfect storm has driven away enormous business and is a key reason why Doug Ford's conservatives are set to dethrone him. He's lost Ontario for sure.
Trudeau was a part-time drama teacher and environmental extremist who allows radicals to overthrow legitimate businesses in the name of virtue signalling. So, projects like the Energy East pipeline are cancelled in this climate costing thousands of jobs. Alberta was an enormously successful province with its vast supply of oilsands. It was so wealthy that it was sending transfer payments (welfare) to struggling provinces like Quebec and P.E.I.
Now it needs "welfare" because oil was its lifeline and we don't have the GDP to supply it.
Okay so now today it looks like Trudeau is going to call Trump's bluff on free trade. Unfortunately, Canada depends on the US far more than we depend on them. This is going to cause structural defecits because:
we are taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees under Trudeau's refugee rush. Not only are we taking refugees from Syria, but thousands of "refugees" from the United States who were refused under Trump are fleeing to Canada before they are deported.
The main industry we have now is automotive manufacturing in Ontario. And Trump's trade deal can slaughter it. USA is a self sufficient country. Canada is not. We have a fortune of oil in the ground that current politics forbid us from exploiting.
I won't even touch the muslim creeping sharia issue throttling our free speech. I'm sure you're aware of that.
TL;DR: The economy is in shambles and liberal policies have chased away foreign investment.
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Holy hell, careful not to break your neck doing a 180 that quickly. Or is it only a problem when Liberals have commercial breaks? I recommend more reading your news, less watching it/listening to it. That way, you can confirm with multiple sources.
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Our President not only watches, but makes policy decisions based expressly on the opinions given by Fox News anchors and you have the gall to imply that anything further left of them is "government funded"
The ONLY news source that that works for is NPR, and I dare say they're pretty center and unbiased, because they quite literally have to be 100%, infallibly, bulletproof honest or else their funding gets pulled
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If you think Hitler didn't have "humble" beginnings I suggest you crack open a WWI-WWII history book. I'm not in any way endorsing calling him Hitler incarnate, but the parallels in both policy and rise to power so far are a little bit uncanny
LOL so gwb and obama NEVER deported back illegals? are you freaking serious or stupid? it started with bill clinton 20 years ago and has been going on since then. if you honestly think that neither gwb or obama never continued that policy, than you need help. @Xzi ....how exactly is he "like" hitler? he's doing exactly what the last 2 presidents had done. trump hasn't taken away america's freedoms from its LEGAL citizens ie: first amendment, second amendment, the rest of the constitution, or anything else for that matter. I've read about WWI-WWII history books and if I remember correctly..didn't hitler destroy all of the guns, monuments, history books, and wayyyy more, along with taking freedom of speech away? hitler also caused genocide of a people FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRY before he rose to power and TOOK countries over. I for one cannot stand trump but he is far from hitler.. hitler was smarter and please give me some examples that trump is putting genocide on people. don't give me the bullcrap about "he's sending parents back without their kids while they stay in the system n blah blah blah". they're being treated better than our own that are lost in the system thanks to their parents being criminals. so what makes illegals any better than american criminals? @TotalInsanity4
How many US citizens are in jail right now? What do you think happens to their children? You want better treatment for people who a) do not belong here, and b) most of which are not even closely related to the adults they were with (the adults, being the ones who are actually being arrested).
Why do none of you idiots who think you know something about politics or how to keep a country running, never once protest the organization called CPS? How many families are torn apart every year, a majority of which never end in the parents being convicted of child abuse or the like?
I wish I could get you all in a room for several days so I could educate you on how things REALLY are. Here's a start though:
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2nd part: And NHK would love you to believe the same thing about them. Get real. Even if every single thing said/reported were 100% true, it's still biased when you don't report everything from all sides. Omission is the same as lying. Deception, at the very least.
Why do none of you idiots who think you know something about politics or how to keep a country running, never once protest the organization called CPS? How many families are torn apart every year, a majority of which never end in the parents being convicted of child abuse or the like?
I wish I could get you all in a room for several days so I could educate you on how things REALLY are. Here's a start though:
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1st part: Don't be naive. He has JCS, and many advisers, just like any other POTUS.
2nd part: And NHK would love you to believe the same thing about them. Get real. Even if every single thing said/reported were 100% true, it's still biased when you don't report everything from all sides. Omission is the same as lying. Deception, at the very least.
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I think you've got me mixed up with TotalInsanity, I compared Trump to Hoover and Nixon. And no, this is not the same policy as the last two administrations. If it was, then Trump's administration wouldn't have had to construct/re-purpose all the detention facilities from scratch. Of course there's corruption involved, as the 'Company that runs immigration detention centers is top donor for two Texas congressmen.'
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pol...ntion-centers-top-donor-two-texas-congressmen
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Hey man, don't throw ME under the bus, I don't think I've said that in this thread yet other than my response to him
Ideally? They're relocated to either their closest relative, or they are given foster parents. However, you bring up a good point, if not executing it a bit wrong; Americans tend to be complacent about a LOT of things, so long as it doesn't affect them, but for the most part have big hearts and will do what they can to fight injustice when they CAN see it. However, not many people, other than kids who have been in the system and parents affected, know about the inner workings of Child Protective Services. I actually agree that there is injustice there, too, especially when parents are locked up for non-violent crimes that ultimately were done trying to support the kids. However, and I hate to say it this way, but it's true; if you ACTUALLY cared about that issue, you'd bring it up not just now, but at another point, or even in a topic that's unrelated to this if you chose to pursue this current time to focus on it. Because what you're doing, rather than trying to raise awareness for what you see as an injustice, is trying to shift focus away from something that you know is just as bad, if not worse.
I really highly recommend you look at one of the leaked rundowns of what his average work day looks like, it's... Disheartening
Jesus fuck did you just compare NPR to North Korea state TV?
I'll rephrase the question. If you had unilateral power over the situation, would you allow children to be separated from their parents when crossing the border?
LOL, NHK (Nippon Housou Kyokai) is the government sponsored channel in Japan. Every household that has a TV or a device capable of displaying tv channels in any way is obligated to pay a monthly fee, whether you want to watch it or not. It is strictly news and politics, yet omits a bunch...
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That reminds me of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
The money funds the BBC
Aha, I see, thanks for the clarification
Although I guess I'm curious as to what you think is being omitted, and why you think Fox News of all stations is in any way better than whatever you perceive
You're clueless. Just like every other liberal, you like to cherry pick your information. The first few "internment camp" memes posted by you idiots around Twitter and Facebook were pics from 2014. IF Obama had them?
Trump made a POLICY to enforce a law. Who made the law? Oh, that's right, the current LAW as written was under Bill Clinton. You want to be disgusted, be disgusted with the assholes who are bringing the children in the hopes that they won't get arrested. In a large number of cases, there is no blood relation whatsoever. Many of those kids are being used as shields, mules, and some are victims of human trafficking. The whole breastfeeding baby torn from the mother is simply an outright LIE. Says who? The people that actually work there. But the interviewer (Gail something...) just cut the man off when his reply didn't fit her agenda.
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This is deranged. You have to find some way of dehumanizing these people or deluding yourself into believing that they somehow "deserve it" just to avoid admitting how morally repugnant this situation has been. Even Trump recognized how bad it was for him politically, which is why it was the first thing he's flipped so fast on.
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