This Maxwell thing is still a rumour.
Wait for January 12/13, Nvidia will probably give us some specs.
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Switch is at about half the power of a GTX 1050Ti in terms of just FLOPs. More importantly, unless you get it on sale, a GTX 980Ti is still $300, and it's just a GPU. Switch is rumored to be ~$250 USD and is a complete device, designed to play most console ports just fine at 1080p/720p. UE4 numbers confirm. This type of price : performance ratio is attractive even to me as a PC gamer.
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Y'all are stupid!
Obviously, the
supports 720p undocked, and 240p docked.
It also doesn't support any backwards compatibility and has no Virtual Console, due to its lack of eShop. But they are bringing back the "Nintendo Power" cartridge burners from the 90s to burn games to your cartridge!*
*Japan only.
Obviously, the
supports 720p undocked, and 240p docked. It also doesn't support any backwards compatibility and has no Virtual Console, due to its lack of eShop. But they are bringing back the "Nintendo Power" cartridge burners from the 90s to burn games to your cartridge!*
*Japan only.
USB 3.1 Gen 1 cannot handle Display Port natively or provide charge beyond 15w, and USB-C are typically 3.1 gen 2 or 2.0.
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Edit: Just checked, Gen 1 have displayport 1.2a and sufficient power delivery.
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Maxwell have better ipc than Pascal and we don't know how much improvements 16nm will bring since every other NVidia GPU made with 16nm are Pascal.
Edit: Just checked, Gen 1 have displayport 1.2a and sufficient power delivery.
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seems like every rumor these days comes from a credible source despite claims from the various credible rumors being completely contradictory. At this point, I'm just disregarding all Switch rumor until at least the Switch event in January.
Venture Beat's specs were fake in case nobody saw. A guy sent a picture of a toaster to them and said it was a devkit.
It's not confirmed as being X1 or Maxwell or anything. Nobody knows.
It's not confirmed as being X1 or Maxwell or anything. Nobody knows.
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Nvidia's own blog calls it a "custom Tegra," so presumably based on X1. Thing is, with a custom chip based on X1 we could be looking at power anywhere from less half the performance of an XB1 to ~80% of that performance.
Edit: To rephrase everything.
USB C have 4 superspeed lanes that can be configured to run many different protocols, from a single lane of 5Gbps to the insane 40Gbps on thunderbolt 3 or 32.4 Gbps full speed dp 1.3/ 1.4, power lanes that either deliver up to 3A or 5A with better quality and support a wide range of 5V/ 9V/ 15V/ 20V. This even open up to possibility of a controller delivering several times of Thunderbolt 3's bandwidth while still using the same connectors and high quality cables.
Most commonly there are usb 3.1 gen1(5Gbps) and gen2(10Gbps), but some controllers will be able to use alternative configuration (thunderbolt 2.0 protocol for example uses 5Gbps x4) in addition to the existing lanes either simultaneously or only one. However, a good controller that support advanced power delivery that the switch is most likely made use of to hit 2.5x clock and able to run dp, two usb 3.0 and a usb 2.0 at the same time is much more likely to support USB 3.1 gen 2.
With MacBook 2015, there is dp protocol and the standard 3.1 gen1 but the power delivery is a step up from 5V * 3A.
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Cause gen 2 is 10Gbps, gen 1 is 5Gbps, and gen 1 controllers are likely to have more limitations and also keep in mind that the switch need to handle power delivery, dp, 2 usb 3.0 and usb 2.0 simultaneously.
MacBook pro moved to thunderbolt 3.0 most likely due to older controllers not supporting laptop range power delivery in addition to making something more premium. A shame they got rid of sd card slot.
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Display port 1.2a in itself requires at least one 5.4Gbps (i.e. Pcie 2.0, configurable up to x4) and 1.3 increase that to 8.1Gbps, and both can handle 4k.
So that itself means the port goes faster 5Gbps and that does not even include the two usb 3.0 port and a usb 2.0 cable, which requires at least another usb 3.0, so there's 10.4Gbps(which might be where it's at), but I don't think any available controller can do that. Also gen 1 controller most likely won't support the kind of power the switch need when docked. Let's say the power increase is quadratic, this means power consumption of cpu will become 6.25 times, and even if the switch is only 5w when in a tablet, that's already over 30 watts and the switch needs to be charged too while played.
That still doesn't answer my question. Is there any reason why we can't just accept, without relying on a bunch of technobabble, that the Switch itself is most likely using the latest spec? What need is there to even bring that up?
Cause that guy says 5.0Gbps and that's usb 3.1 gen 1.
Cause usb c is actually designed to go beyond usb 3.0 and to come with a even higher potential for growth, so everthing was really confusing.
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People are going to crack open the Switch at launch and find a Raspberry Pi V1.0 in it lol
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I agree Tears is great. I even played thru it completely twice. I've been hooked on playing thru Fallout 4 again though, after they released the next gen version for Series S/X. Is pretty cool update.
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