Hacking Nintendont

GerbilSoft · May 13, 2016

Random factoid: The battery used in the Wii U Pro Controller is the exact same one used in Old 3DS (non-XL) systems. (CTR-003) The battery included with Wii U Pro controllers has a slightly different label, since it mentions WUP-005 in addition to CTR-001, but other than that, it's identical.

On another note: If anyone here uses HDDs partitioned using GPT that has an EFI System Partition prior to the Nintendont FAT32 partition (e.g. partitioned on a Mac), can you test the Nintendont build I linked here: https://github.com/FIX94/Nintendont/issues/202#issuecomment-216730870 - I'd like to get this merged, but I need some test results first.

ccfman2004 · May 13, 2016

GerbilSoft said:
Random factoid: The battery used in the Wii U Pro Controller is the exact same one used in Old 3DS (non-XL) systems. (CTR-003) The battery included with Wii U Pro controllers has a slightly different label, since it mentions WUP-005 in addition to CTR-001, but other than that, it's identical.

On another note: If anyone here uses HDDs partitioned using GPT that has an EFI System Partition prior to the Nintendont FAT32 partition (e.g. partitioned on a Mac), can you test the Nintendont build I linked here: https://github.com/FIX94/Nintendont/issues/202#issuecomment-216730870 - I'd like to get this merged, but I need some test results first.

I mentioned that many pages back. The battery in my Wii U Pro controller says CTR-003.

niuus · May 13, 2016

GerbilSoft said:
Random factoid: The battery used in the Wii U Pro Controller is the exact same one used in Old 3DS (non-XL) systems. (CTR-003) The battery included with Wii U Pro controllers has a slightly different label, since it mentions WUP-005 in addition to CTR-001, but other than that, it's identical.

On another note: If anyone here uses HDDs partitioned using GPT that has an EFI System Partition prior to the Nintendont FAT32 partition (e.g. partitioned on a Mac), can you test the Nintendont build I linked here: https://github.com/FIX94/Nintendont/issues/202#issuecomment-216730870 - I'd like to get this merged, but I need some test results first.

I have a spare HDD for this. If you want, tell me exactly what to do in order to format it (on a Mac or PC, i have both), and use it in Nintendont to get the results you need.

ccfman2004 · May 13, 2016

niuus said:
I have a spare HDD for this. If you want, tell me exactly what to do in order to format it (on a Mac or PC, i have both), and use it in Nintendont to get the results you need.

On a Mac you have to start a System Install and use the Disk Utility inside the installer to format the HDD. This should put an EFI partition on the HDD. I may do this if I get a chance as I have spare HDDs and I use a Mac.

niuus · May 13, 2016

ccfman2004 said:
On a Mac you have to start a System Install and use the Disk Utility inside the installer to format the HDD. This should put an EFI partition on the HDD. I may do this if I get a chance as I have spare HDDs and I use a Mac.

Shouldn't starting Disk Utility from inside the already installed OS X system suffice? I'll check it now.

GerbilSoft · May 13, 2016

I don't have a Mac myself (well, Intel Mac - latest one I have is a Power Macintosh G4 "Mirrored Drive Doors") so I'm not sure what the proper procedure is, but installing the OS on the external HDD will guarantee the presence of an EFI System Partition. Once that's done, you can just delete the main OS partition and create a generic FAT32 partition, then copy some games to it.

What I did in the gpt-support-v3 branch is I have it check the GPT partition type in addition to the actual filesystem. Common types include:

EFI System Partition: {C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B}
MS basic data partition: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Linux filesystem: {0FC63DAF-8483-4772-8E79-3D69D8477DE4}
HFS+: {48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC}

Generally, the MS basic data partition GUID is used for FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. The only one that's important here is the EFI System Partition GUID; if that GUID is found, the partition is ignored. (This partition is always formated as FAT32, which causes Nintendont to try looking there for games and come up empty.)

ccfman2004 · May 13, 2016

niuus said:
Shouldn't starting Disk Utility from inside the already installed OS X system suffice? I'll check it now.

No it won't as the Disk Utility only adds the EFI System Partition when installing the OS on that HDD.

niuus · May 13, 2016

ccfman2004 said:
No it won't as the Disk Utility only adds the EFI System Partition when installing the OS on that HDD.

GerbilSoft said:
I don't have a Mac myself (well, Intel Mac - latest one I have is a Power Macintosh G4 "Mirrored Drive Doors") so I'm not sure what the proper procedure is, but installing the OS on the external HDD will guarantee the presence of an EFI System Partition. Once that's done, you can just delete the main OS partition and create a generic FAT32 partition, then copy some games to it.

What I did in the gpt-support-v3 branch is I have it check the GPT partition type in addition to the actual filesystem. Common types include:

EFI System Partition: {C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B}

MS basic data partition: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}

Linux filesystem: {0FC63DAF-8483-4772-8E79-3D69D8477DE4}

HFS+: {48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC}

Generally, the MS basic data partition GUID is used for FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. The only one that's important here is the EFI System Partition GUID; if that GUID is found, the partition is ignored. (This partition is always formated as FAT32, which causes Nintendont to try looking there for games and come up empty.)

All right, i'll look into it.

Delumine · May 13, 2016

I have the latest Beta for USB Loader GX, and the latest Nintendont. Running the games directly off Nintendont works, but when I open the games through usb loader GX (the settings are attuned for Nintendont) it just stays stuck on the Nintendont screen

GreyWolf · May 14, 2016

Disk Management in Windows can initialize a drive as GPT or you can convert it to one by right-clicking on the drive.

Diskpart can do it to but can be quite deadly if you're not paying attention to what you're doing.

sonictopfan · May 14, 2016

Delumine said:
I have the latest Beta for USB Loader GX, and the latest Nintendont. Running the games directly off Nintendont works, but when I open the games through usb loader GX (the settings are attuned for Nintendont) it just stays stuck on the Nintendont screen

Do you have any themes installed on USB-Loader GX? Also which versions are you using for both? Please mention numbers, finally does the screen hang in the initial Nintendont screen or when it tries to start the game?

robertorpg94 · May 14, 2016

supports WBFs format?

Delumine · May 14, 2016

sonictopfan said:
Do you have any themes installed on USB-Loader GX? Also which versions are you using for both? Please mention numbers, finally does the screen hang in the initial Nintendont screen or when it tries to start the game?

Nintendont v3.392, and USB Loader GX r1260. Nintendont work fines when launched directly from the native HBC, and even works in CFG USB Loader. But I can't get it to work at all in USB Loader GX, it just hang at the "Nintendont" screen, with no auto-booting text, nothing.

robertorpg94 · May 14, 2016

my external hd this formatted fat 32 32KB cluster

WBFs games wii, I can play normally , however my game cube of isos in nintendont can not , says he can not find the games folder on the USB .

however I can play normally , if I try to read the same isos , using an SD CARD ,

is my doubt , I am following all the configurations and you guys tips, and the configuration is correct ,
there is a certain inconsistency in the Wii U about it?

i use external hd toshiba 500gb USB 3.0 cable Y

niuus · May 14, 2016

GerbilSoft said:
I don't have a Mac myself (well, Intel Mac - latest one I have is a Power Macintosh G4 "Mirrored Drive Doors") so I'm not sure what the proper procedure is, but installing the OS on the external HDD will guarantee the presence of an EFI System Partition. Once that's done, you can just delete the main OS partition and create a generic FAT32 partition, then copy some games to it.

What I did in the gpt-support-v3 branch is I have it check the GPT partition type in addition to the actual filesystem. Common types include:

EFI System Partition: {C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B}

MS basic data partition: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}

Linux filesystem: {0FC63DAF-8483-4772-8E79-3D69D8477DE4}

HFS+: {48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC}

Generally, the MS basic data partition GUID is used for FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. The only one that's important here is the EFI System Partition GUID; if that GUID is found, the partition is ignored. (This partition is always formated as FAT32, which causes Nintendont to try looking there for games and come up empty.)

Ok, so i went ahead and partitioned the disk in Disk Utility (launched from Snow Leopard installation), selected a GUID Partition Table, formatted to Mac OS X Journaled, then installed the OS.

Finished with install. Loaded my main OS X drive, formatted the HFSJ volume to FAT, everything fine. Plugged it to my Win 7 PC, formatted it again to FAT32/64KB allocation unit size, after that i copied some games and the Nintendont app. Loaded the GPT Mod trough HBC, selected USB, and there it was, the full game list. Played some Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Mario 64, everything went perfectly fine.

Fired it up with the Wii U, besides the "Format HDD" nag from the console OS, i ignored it and loaded vWii, played some Resident Evil 2. Again, no problems.

pedro702 · May 14, 2016

robertorpg94 said:
my external hd this formatted fat 32 32KB cluster

WBFs games wii, I can play normally , however my game cube of isos in nintendont can not , says he can not find the games folder on the USB .

however I can play normally , if I try to read the same isos , using an SD CARD ,

is my doubt , I am following all the configurations and you guys tips, and the configuration is correct ,
there is a certain inconsistency in the Wii U about it?

i use external hd toshiba 500gb USB 3.0 cable Y

there is no inconsistent about wiiu are your games on the correct path?

USB://games/anyname/game.iso

is your fat32 partition on the hdd set to primary?

Are you selecting usb when you launch nintendon?

GerbilSoft · May 14, 2016

niuus said:
Loaded the GPT Mod trough HBC, selected USB, and there it was, the full game list. Played some Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Mario 64, everything went perfectly fine.

As a sanity check, can you test this HDD with the latest stable release? It should fail to find any games due to the EFI System Partition.

sonictopfan · May 14, 2016

Delumine said:
Nintendont v3.392, and USB Loader GX r1260. Nintendont work fines when launched directly from the native HBC, and even works in CFG USB Loader. But I can't get it to work at all in USB Loader GX, it just hang at the "Nintendont" screen, with no auto-booting text, nothing.

Then you need to report this issue here https://gbatemp.net/threads/usb-loader-gx.149922/ maybe Cyan knows what the problem is, it's not related to Nintendont but it might be related to USB Loader GX.

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robertorpg94 said:
my external hd this formatted fat 32 32KB cluster

WBFs games wii, I can play normally , however my game cube of isos in nintendont can not , says he can not find the games folder on the USB .

however I can play normally , if I try to read the same isos , using an SD CARD ,

is my doubt , I am following all the configurations and you guys tips, and the configuration is correct ,
there is a certain inconsistency in the Wii U about it?

i use external hd toshiba 500gb USB 3.0 cable Y

I highly doubt that's the issue but it's worth mentioning Toshiba HDDS don't work with Dios Mios, of course Nintendont has a better compatibility with HDDs but I'm not sure if I tested Toshiba products with it or not, I kinda stopped relying on them after they caused me so much trouble and started erasing data on their own.

sonictopfan · May 14, 2016

niuus said:
Ok, so i went ahead and partitioned the disk in Disk Utility (launched from Snow Leopard installation), selected a GUID Partition Table, formatted to Mac OS X Journaled, then installed the OS.

Finished with install. Loaded my main OS X drive, formatted the HFSJ volume to FAT, everything fine. Plugged it to my Win 7 PC, formatted it again to FAT32/64KB allocation unit size, after that i copied some games and the Nintendont app. Loaded the GPT Mod trough HBC, selected USB, and there it was, the full game list. Played some Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Mario 64, everything went perfectly fine.

Fired it up with the Wii U, besides the "Format HDD" nag from the console OS, i ignored it and loaded vWii, played some Resident Evil 2. Again, no problems.

So we can now use the HDD with two partitions for both vWii and WiiU?

Troopage · May 14, 2016

sonictopfan said:
So we can now use the HDD with two partitions for both vWii and WiiU?

As much as I wish that was the case, it's not.

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