Hacking GW multirom demo

Icepotter · Jan 22, 2014

Tomy Sakazaki said:
Actually it's not true. Legit GW bricks case had no corrupted SD cards, MD5 and CRC checksums were perfect match.
The bug that make the 3DS actual bricking acts after the gateway mode is successfully launched.

Yeah, but what is the trigger to the brick? There is thousands of gateways around the globe working without any kind of brick. There is just a few isolated cases which a brick has happen... IF they indeed are really legitimate cases, what is the common factor that is affecting it?

It seems that the only trustable case was from Devin (GBATemp Reviewer) and there is this:

Devin said:
Excuse my Vita's camera quality. Bricked 3DS XL on the left, unbricked 3DS as well as my GW3DS kit on the right.

http://i.imgur.com/NHHwt2r.jpg

EDIT:

Issac I got my GW3DS directly from the GW3DS team so I'll have to chat with them about it. As for having used a modified launcher before on my 3DS I have. Tis how I reviewed the R4i Gold Deluxe. However after the review I went back to stock GW3DS. Which worked perfectly until this brick.

GHANMI · Jan 22, 2014

Icepotter said:
if you have a legit gateway card, and also has downloaded the launcher from the official website, the only way that it can fail the security checks, is if there is something wrong with the launcher... That said, if it was corrupted, and the MD5 is different, there is a chance you can end bricking your 3DS.

Well, we do have several confirmed cases, including the official GBATemp reviewer for that piece of hardware.
And there are many legit users and homebrew devs who confirmed this, but I assume they're all Chinese mafia or something.
Awaiting a software solution eagerly. Possibly in the end of the handheld's lifespan.

Rob Blou · Jan 22, 2014

Here's my latest e-mail exchange with GW:

1. There is no bricking, Devin case is maybe just is console being dead, we are
waiting on it to see.Also Devin had a dev unit (samples, before production).
Bricking is an issue with clones, ask clones for support: there is none, they
don't care about their customers, we do.

2. It never happened, so why again.

3. We are doing our best, but the crap with cloners made us lose time,
particularly the code by Normatt (the clone main coder, making a lot of money
copying our code) who can brick people with Gateway who installed it.
But all seems more or less solved now, so we are moving forward to 2.0 now, and
more to come after.

mailto:[email protected]

> Hi,

>
>
> Since It’s been out and official that some legit and exclusive GW users had
> bricked 3DS (Devin is the latest important member to testify it)
>
> I have a couple of suggestions for you to regain the trust of the users and
> possible buyers. This is Basic Public Relation 101 but it was always the way
> to go (ex: Tiger Woods, Bill Clinton ect)
>
>
>
> 1st: you have to admit the bricking code and say you only wanted to protect
> your work but you are really sorry for the problems users encountered
>
>
>
> 2nd: Reassure the users that it will never happen again and no bricking code
> will EVER be implemented in your products.
>
>
>
> 3rd: Release the 2.0 Final really soon with a confirmation that all bricking
> code have been removed and all the great features you promised will be implemented.
>
>
>
> People will forget your mistakes as fast as they lost their trust in you.
>
>
>
> This is what people used to think of you guys: The 1st to make a flashcard
> on the 3ds, good quality and customer servise, always have the best features and stability.
>
> Now the only thing people see is: We can’t trust them since they created the
> bricking code and It even happened to legit GW customers.
>
>
>
> Do as I told you and I can ensure you that everything will get back on track.
>
>
>
> Trust me.

profi200 · Jan 22, 2014

Yeah, Devin is from the chinese mafia

Arras · Jan 22, 2014

Normatt (the clone main coder, making a lot of money copying our code)

Wow. Slander much?

MichiS97 · Jan 22, 2014

profi200 said:
Yeah, Devin is from the chinese mafia

They did not say this.

Hellz92 · Jan 22, 2014

I kind of get the feeling the update is postponed this much because they are removing their "brick code" and are going to release a clean file, while further blaming the clones and Normatt.

mmfsm · Jan 22, 2014

Hellz92 said:
I kind of get the feeling the update is postponed this much because they are removing their "brick code" and are going to release a clean file, while further blaming the clones and Normatt.

yeah but if they do not adress their kill code, people will mistrust them forever, the best they could do is publicly remove the brick code, put a penalty on clone cards in some other way

mr. fancypants · Jan 22, 2014

tyons said:
you misinterpreted his post.

ooh oops sorry

profi200 · Jan 22, 2014

MichiS97 said:
They did not say this.

From their e-mail it sounds like they deny to repair it. And then their clone mafia, Normatt blahblah again. Normatt has nothing to do with that. They use him as scapegoat, only because he wanted to make the 3DS region free.

Rob Blou · Jan 22, 2014

It would be nice to have Devin's version of his discussion with GW ... Also if Normatt has something to say after reading those accusations, it would be nice to hear from him

profi200 · Jan 22, 2014

I contacted him. Let's see, what he say.

MrOldboy · Jan 22, 2014

So are there any legit reports of Normatt workign for the clone manufacturers? I've seen the whole Normatt is the main clone card coder/engineer quite a bit on various forums. At this point I'm more interested in all the dirt being thrown around than the actual state of GW. They'll be fine, as douchey as they seem.

profi200 · Jan 22, 2014

MrOldboy said:
So are there any legit reports of Normatt workign for the clone manufacturers?

No.

Normmatt · Jan 22, 2014

I am not working for the clones. I don't know where they got that idea. I am more than capable of writing my own code should I want to.

kyogre123 · Jan 22, 2014

I don't see how the fact that Normatt could work for R4i is something relevant. I don't find it far fetched, but the truth is that his modified version ofGW's launcher didn't inexplicably make all 3DSes vulnerable to brick, not to mention that the original launcher has caused more bricks than his Region Free launcher up to this day.

Cyberdrive · Jan 22, 2014

MrOldboy said:
I've seen the whole Normatt is the main clone card coder/engineer quite a bit on various forums.

It doesn't make sense for him to publish region-free hack instead of keeping it as clone-exclusive feature.
I'm not buying this, especially when it comes from GW and GaryOPA.

tomiga · Jan 22, 2014

Normmatt said:
I am not working for the clones. I don't know where they got that idea. I am more than capable of writing my own code should I want to.

Write your own Gateway launcher and open-source it. That might give Gateway something to think about.

escherbach · Jan 22, 2014

Rob Blou said:
Here's my latest e-mail exchange with GW:

1. There is no bricking, Devin case is maybe just is console being dead, we are
waiting on it to see.Also Devin had a dev unit (samples, before production).
Bricking is an issue with clones, ask clones for support: there is none, they
don't care about their customers, we do.

2. It never happened, so why again.

.
.
.

mailto:[email protected]

> Hi,

.
.
.

>
> 1st: you have to admit the bricking code and say you only wanted to protect
> your work but you are really sorry for the problems users encountered
>
>
>
> 2nd: Reassure the users that it will never happen again and no bricking code
> will EVER be implemented in your products.
.
.
.

So Gateway say no deliberate bricking code.

Ok, burden is on the foot of the anti-Gateway conspiracy theorists to prove otherwise now - isn't it?

And psuedo code suggesting that 1/16 of clone card users will be bricked won't do.
Also your proof must explain why some Gateway card users also have reported bricks (especially after all the crap suggestions based on corrupt sd cards etc)

osirisjem · Jan 22, 2014

Normmatt said:
I am not working for the clones.

You have no financial relationship with clone cards ?
There sure alot of allegations here and elsewhere.
Why would people gain from accusing you specifically ?
It seems hard to believe anything these days.

/confused

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