Hacking GW multirom demo

[Huntereb]

ALL LIES!

HE'S TRYING TO THROW US OFF THE TRAIL! YOU CAN'T TRICK US Normmatt! WE'LL NEVER FALL FOR YOUR "CHINESE MAFIA" BULLSHIT!

 

[Vengenceonu]

Gateway just released the MD5 hash for all files they ever released.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/gateway-...heir-launchers-and-files.361011/#post-4896171

 

[wiewcw]

so what? hash'es is not proper way to not get brick...

 

[tyons]

it's that gateway is trying to convince the noobs that correct md5 = no bricks.

 

[mathieulh]

you misinterpreted his post.



please be careful when writing, to not misinform people. the 3ds doesn't get bricked if the md5 is simply wrong. an user tried to manually corrupt it many times and rebooted the console 30 times (he said), and no brick.
there are more security checks than just the md5 one.

you misinterpreted his post.



please be careful when writing, to not misinform people. the 3ds doesn't get bricked if the md5 is simply wrong. an user tried to manually corrupt it many times and rebooted the console 30 times (he said), and no brick.
there are more security checks than just the md5 one.

Actually, the sanitysanity involves a SHA256 and a RSA signature, that's both before the ARM9 payload execution (happens in the ROP chain) so that seems pretty "safe" to me, although somehow it seems despite all this, few "legit" users did brick. As I have once said in the past, neither the msec exploit, nor the rsa_verify request exploit are 100% stable, so who knows what could happen ? Leaving a brick code, no matter what the circumstances are is never a good idea. GW devs need to remove it, even if just to reassure their userbase. There are plenty if smarter and just as effective ways to protect their IP. (As in Intellectual Property)

 

[gamefan5]

Actually, the sanitysanity involves a SHA256 and a RSA signature, that's both before the ARM9 payload execution (happens in the ROP chain) so that seems pretty "safe" to me, although somehow it seems despite all this, few "legit" users did brick. As I have once said in the past, neither the msec exploit, nor the rsa_verify request exploit are 100% stable, so who knows what could happen ? Leaving a brick code, no matter what the circumstances are is never a good idea. GW devs need to remove it, even if just to reassure their userbase. There are plenty if smarter and just as effective ways to protect their IP. (As in Intellectual Property)

Hmm... How to protect it then (just for sake of curiosity)
I've heard that GW wouldn't be capable of destroying the clone carts because of the FPGA (or something) on them isn't reprogrammable...

 

[Huntereb]

I've heard that GW wouldn't be capable of destroying the clone carts because of the FPGA (or something) on them isn't reprogrammable...

Pretty sure that's been debunked. The cards are much too similar for this to be the case.

 

[Arras]

Hmm... How to protect it then (just for sake of curiosity)
I've heard that GW wouldn't be capable of destroying the clone carts because of the FPGA (or something) on them isn't reprogrammable...

Make it hard as heck to clone by either requiring an update of one of the updatable components that are not updatable in the clones? Add more checks all over the place that make it crash? Especially the former would be a good idea (although they'd just release new cards probably)

 

[gamefan5]

Pretty sure that's been debunked. The cards are much too similar for this to be the case.

Hmm... I see... I just wanna know tbh if they coukd freeze the carts instead so that ot forces clone teams to make their fw instead...
I also wanna know if it's possible to remove the brick code...

 

[gamefan5]

Y

Make it hard as heck to clone by either requiring an update of one of the updatable components that are not updatable in the clones? Add more checks all over the place that make it crash? Especially the former would be a good idea (although they'd just release new cards probably)

Both, I think, are very good ideas.

 

[Huntereb]

Hmm... I see... I just wanna know tbh if they coukd freeze the carts instead so that ot forces clone teams to make their fw instead...

It might be possible, but I think they might wait until the 2.0 final release for that, since it will apparently contain code for this anyway (For use by legitimate users).

I also wanna know if it's possible to remove the brick code...

It would be difficult, since the code is compiled, and there are more than a few different triggers of the bricking code (Apparently). More than possible, however.

 

[kyogre123]

I also wanna know if it's possible to remove the brick code...

It may be possible, but who would help us to have a safe GW launcher if almost every 3DS hacker is against piracy?

 

[Huntereb]

It may be possible, but who would help us to have a safe GW launcher if almost every 3DS hacker is against piracy?

...So far.

 

[osirisjem]

...So far.

You take Gateway's actions so seriously, maybe this could be your signature ?

 

[Huntereb]

View attachment 6038

I don't get it, explain it for me.

 

[gamefan5]

It may be possible, but who would help us to have a safe GW launcher if almost every 3DS hacker is against piracy?

Didn't see it like that. How right u are...
Oh well, it's not like I don't buy my games tho, I just wanted Normmatt's patch DX.
I miss importing games...

 

[gamesquest1]

i would say its probable that smealum will add region free for original carts....i don't see any reason for him not too, it doesn't help piracy and he seems all for removing the current restrictions on the 3ds without enabling piracy

 

[profi200]

Who said the clones are not updatetable? Gateway said this in one of their statement.

 

[Vengenceonu]

Who said the clones are not updatetable? Gateway said this in one of their statement.

or so they say .

 

[Huntereb]

Gateway said this in one of their statement.

Aye, they did. They're just be blowing smoke to get more consumers, though.