PS1/2 Question about Free McBoot for PS2 slim

BamDeafPie · Jun 22, 2013

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Avery Singh said:
Then just go with Memory Card, why waste and have chance of risk of breaking console when Memory Card is much cheaper and you can't mess it up. Sony's ps2 was about as flawless as you could get. The only way to destroy it would have to be Hardware wise. Software wise it was based off linux directly and with no updates and stuff, no chance of brick. Actually there are two "considered" updates in ps2 history but none messed anything up

I wish I have thought of that before go ahead with opening up PS2 and swap trick.

Avery Singh · Jun 22, 2013

Well then go for it. It'll work 100%, Memory Card to Memory Card transfer, oh but don't copy the files over from one memory card to another via Sony's browser or using ULaunch.Elf . Use the actual installer and if you do, I'd use SP193's Free McBoot v1.8c

Avery Singh · Jun 22, 2013

Foxi4 said:
That's not true. The folder can be anywhere on the computer and it can have any name you want - what matters is that the SMB Share settings are the same on the PC and PS2 side and the IP settings check out. The folder has to have two folders inside - one titled DVD for DVD-based images, the other CD for CD-based images. If more folders will be necessary, OPL should create them on its own. You don't need any specific HDD for SMB loading nor do you need any special partition because everything works via TCP/IP, so the PS2 doesn't know any better.

As for HDD loading, any IDE ATA 3.5 inch drive will do as long as it fits in the console - the partition size restriction is long gone, I've seen people sporting 256GB drives in their PS2's if I recall correctly.

Well SMB wise last I had herd that's how it worked for OPL 0.8 but I never really got into using SMB. SMB runs a tad faster then the actual disc so usually I'd go with burnt discs or just USB. For the DVD9 Games or some old FPS games using internal HDD is INSANE! 2 times faster then normal disc

Foxi4 · Jun 22, 2013

Avery Singh said:
Well SMB wise last I had herd that's how it worked for OPL 0.8 but I never really got into using SMB. SMB runs a tad faster then the actual disc so usually I'd go with burnt discs or just USB. For the DVD9 Games or some old FPS games using internal HDD is INSANE! 2 times faster then normal disc

Running "a tad faster" is a good thing - it decreases loading times. The game itself works at the same speed, so no worries there. USB on the other hand is far, far slower than disc loading, causing glitching, low compatibility and terrible streaming issues, especially with FMV's, but also streamed BGM's - it should be used as a last resort. Using burnt games grinds the console's laser lens - it's not recommended when there are HDD/SMB alternatives.

Ranking in terms of usability:

HDD Loading
SMB Loading
Disc Loading (ESR)
USB Loading

Now, this is of course subjective but so-far there's only one game I ever load over USB and that's "Star Wars Racer: Revenge", and that's only because it fails to work over SMB. Most games I play work perfectly fine over SMB though and being able to play my entire collection without having to move my butt off the couch is something I hold very dear. I would load over HDD but that's not an option on the Slim without modding the system heavily, so I'm not even suggesting it to the OP who apparently has a Slim.

Go SMB or go bust in my opinion - there's absolutely no reason as to why one should shuffle discs in this day and age. It's a last resort option when everything else fails.

BamDeafPie · Jun 22, 2013

Foxi4 said:
Running "a tad faster" is a good thing - it decreases loading times. The game itself works at the same speed, so no worries there. USB on the other hand is far, far slower than disc loading, causing glitching, low compatibility and terrible streaming issues, especially with FMV's, but also streamed BGM's - it should be used as a last resort. Using burnt games grinds the console's laser lens - it's not recommended when there are HDD/SMB alternatives.

Ranking in terms of usability:

HDD Loading

SMB Loading

Disc Loading (ESR)

USB Loading

Now, this is of course subjective but so-far there's only one game I ever load over USB and that's "Star Wars Racer: Revenge", and that's only because it fails to work over SMB. Most games I play work perfectly fine over SMB though and being able to play my entire collection without having to move my butt off the couch is something I hold very dear. I would load over HDD but that's not an option on the Slim without modding the system heavily, so I'm not even suggesting it to the OP who apparently has a Slim.

Go SMB or go bust in my opinion - there's absolutely no reason as to why one should shuffle discs in this day and age. It's a last resort option when everything else fails.

I actually have both system (FAT PS2 and Silver Slim PS2)

Foxi4 · Jun 22, 2013

BamDeafPie said:
I actually have both system (FAT PS2 and Silver Slim PS2)

Ah, I see. In this case, my honest suggestion is connecting both systems to an SMB share whilst keeping the games you truly care for (or the handful that aren't compatible or have issues) on the PS2 Classic's HDD. In the very unlikely event of that not working out for you 100%, just burn the 1-2 games that aren't compatible with either method.

That way you'll have access to the majority of the games on both systems (I'm assuming that you want to connect each in different rooms) so it's the least game-shuffling for the most merit.

In case of setup difficulties, feel free to ask about anything.

BamDeafPie · Jun 22, 2013

Foxi4 said:
Ah, I see. In this case, my honest suggestion is connecting both systems to an SMB share whilst keeping the games you truly care for (or the handful that aren't compatible or have issues) on the PS2 Classic's HDD. In the very unlikely event of that not working out for you 100%, just burn the 1-2 games that aren't compatible with either method.

That way you'll have access to the majority of the games on both systems (I'm assuming that you want to connect each in different rooms) so it's the least game-shuffling for the most merit.

In case of setup difficulties, feel free to ask about anything.

What does HDD and SMS looks like? For PS2.

Foxi4 · Jun 22, 2013

BamDeafPie said:
What does HDD and SMS looks like? For PS2.

It really can't get any more simple - you make a "shortcut" to the OpenPS2Loader .ELF file using FMCB and uLoader (you should hold the application on the Memory Card if possible, that way it'll load into the memory quicker than over USB), once you do that, you just select it from there.

OPL will have three sections concerning loading, one per loading method. Those lists will contain all your games, much like on the Wii.

SMB loading utilizes Network Shares, which are created by tagging a folder and creating a Share. That way, the folder is accessible by all devices connected to said share (including the PS2), so with the right IP settings, the PC can play the role of the Host and the PS2 leeches off it. It's a pretty fast way to get those games working and requires minimal setup (practically only jamming in the numbers). Putting games on SMB is relatively easy - all the CD's go to the CD folder, all the DVD's to the DVD folder. The games need to be in .ISO format and they have to be formatted in a specific way - RegionCode_ReleaseNumber.ReleaseNumber.Name.iso, for example "SCES_520.04.Killzone.iso". Those numbers and codes are on ever game cover, so they're easily found online.

HDD loading uses the built-in HDD. Now, installing games is pretty simple - connect your drive to a PC and use WinHIIP to put your favourite games on the drive. Once done, put it back in the PS2 and you're good to go - the games should appear in the OPL menu.

You can find more detailed SMB tutorials here.

BamDeafPie · Jun 22, 2013

Can I mail my memory card to which one of you to install Free McBoot into it then mail back?

BamDeafPie · Jun 22, 2013

Wait. I can play PS2 games ISO on my laptop hooked up to PS2 without SMS and HDD?

Avery Singh · Jun 22, 2013

You can use USB, and no it's compatibility is actually very high. Almost the same as HDD and less complicaded to set up then SMB, also normal disc is faster then burnt disc

Foxi4 · Jun 22, 2013

Avery Singh said:
You can use USB, and no it's compatibility is actually very high. Almost the same as HDD and less complicaded to set up then SMB, also normal disc is faster then burnt disc

USB compatibility is atrocious and the speeds are terrible, don't false advertise a feature that barely works.

BamDeafPie said:
Can I mail my memory card to which one of you to install Free McBoot into it then mail back?

http://gbatemp.net/threads/free-mcboot-install-service.309572/

BamDeafPie · Jun 23, 2013

Foxi4 said:
USB compatibility is atrocious and the speeds are terrible, don't false advertise a feature that barely works.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/free-mcboot-install-service.309572/

I think they need to update that post because there are some users that stopped comming here. One user I sent a message on their wall and never get respond from them...

jonthedit · Jun 23, 2013

I install FMCB 1.8b / SF 2.0 for free If you send in your memory card to me. All you do is pay shipping.
I'm in the USA, AZ. Contact me if interested.

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