XBone: Microsoft releases information on what goes.

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Which brings up a good point. What if you don't want to pay for Xbox Live (If there is still a fee)?
You just don't get to play at all?

that would be the Silver level (the free membership)
now the question is,
What can the Silver level membership do on the Xbone?,
Will you need to upgrade gold level?
and
Will there be a new level higher then gold the have more to offer?

will we find out at E3?
 

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I don't give a damn whether or not I need an Internet connection. I have one, so do all my friends (as does everyone posting on this board). Sure, I can come up with some lame scenarios like "What if I want to game on my hike to Mt. Everest????", but the fact is that the vast majority of potential XBONE owners have internet access, so no problems.

The fact is that soon even your washing machine will require an internet connection, so get over it.

What I need to see is the quality of the gaming experience. If there are great games, then I will but it. Otherwise, I won't.

Real simple.
 

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Because having the ability to access the internet at all means a stable landline connection at home 24/7, right?

Wait, no. For about two years I was on DSL that would disconnect at 1:21 every single day. I went to college with people that would sit around on forums between classes, but had no stable internet at home (often satellite, and reception up in the mountains is spotty). In addition I've known people that could only access the internet from the library.

This was my drive to class each day I had classes.


(Yes, I had to split it into two parts because of the 15 minute limit back then.)

Not everybody lives in the middle of a modern city. The US especially has some of the poorest internet coverage on the planet. I know places that still use dialup simply because high-speed is not physically available where they live.
 

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I don't give a damn whether or not I need an Internet connection. I have one, so do all my friends (as does everyone posting on this board). Sure, I can come up with some lame scenarios like "What if I want to game on my hike to Mt. Everest????", but the fact is that the vast majority of potential XBONE owners have internet access, so no problems.

The fact is that soon even your washing machine will require an internet connection, so get over it.

What I need to see is the quality of the gaming experience. If there are great games, then I will but it. Otherwise, I won't.

Real simple.

I think the main thing that everyone is getting mad about is to even PLAY ANY games on it you MUST connect to the Internet (and xbox live)
and
some people do not have a Internet connect at all time
and
if your connection is down, NO games for you on the system

what will happen if Xbox live goes down?
 

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I don't give a damn whether or not I need an Internet connection. I have one, so do all my friends (as does everyone posting on this board). Sure, I can come up with some lame scenarios like "What if I want to game on my hike to Mt. Everest????", but the fact is that the vast majority of potential XBONE owners have internet access, so no problems.

The fact is that soon even your washing machine will require an internet connection, so get over it.

What I need to see is the quality of the gaming experience. If there are great games, then I will but it. Otherwise, I won't.

Real simple.

You're a moron.

My internet right now, where I live, goes out every single day, and during the summer it's even worse because the natives are stealing the copper wiring, thus the internet goes down for a day or 2. Guess what, the Xbox One because a fucking paper weight to me. Why would I even consider giving Microsoft my money for their console if I can't play the thing whenever I want. Yeah I can use it as a DVD/Blu Ray player, but guess what, I can use my PS3 for that, and play games. Microsoft just lost a sale.

Hell could you imagine if a hack (Which I'm starting to wonder if it will be inevitable at this point) attacks Live and it goes down for a month like the PSN did? Guess what, you can't play your games!

What about years down the road 3 generations from now you want to play your Xbox One games? Oh well, too bad, you can't. Servers aren't going to be up forever. Yeah they can release a patch so that you can play your games offline after the console stops making them money, but that's what they should be doing in the first place. This is just screwing over the consumer plain and simple. Those soldiers over in the middle east? After a hard day of setting up base or doing some dangerous work, a lot of them would like to just sit down at the end of the day, relax with a game of Halo or something, and now they can't.

This is just Microsoft giving the finger to everybody. This is just to prevent it so nobody steals their stuff and pirates their games, and in the end it's hurting everybody. They screwed up, real simple.
 

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Nope, I am criticising buying and keeping it in box for 50 years. Obviously if a console is no longer functional, I'm not going to buy it at the end of it's life.
I was saying in this instance, I could buy a 360 or PS3 right now and play a load of great games. If the Xbox One doesn't work out the same, no big deal.
It doesn't matter if it's 50 seconds or 50 years, you still thinking about getting a console after its generation.

What makes you think others wouldn't?


Although I would say it is unlikely to be the case; as technology advances, it will become less and less burdensome for Microsoft to continue hosting petabytes of old content, which will most likely be compatible with at least the next few generations of their Xbox line (they'll probably stick to x86 for the next few iterations I reckon, so content should be mostly compatible). So it's no real issue for them to continue to support the Xbox One when the next Xbox comes out, and so on. I don't think this will be a massive issue. If some day MS do decide the Xbox One is dead, I am confident they will (whether willingly or under pressure, either from consumers or legally) release a software update to allow the console to continue to function without access to servers.

There is no guarantee that they will release a patch or hold the data.

As said, they shouldn't have to release a patch in the first place.


Anyhow, I am not thinking of doing what I am criticizing, there is a big difference between waiting a few years to get stuff cheaper and waiting 50 years until stuff is a collector's item and then...opening it and playing it (instantly depreciating the value enormously, btw).
Look above.

I hate to say this, but if they can't afford it, they shouldn't be getting games. I know it seems unfair and such, but there are definitely things to prioritise over video games for these families. (e.g. food, clothing, education, paying bills and debts). Obviously I don't think kids should be deprived of stuff, but there are more important things to sort out first. Gaming is a luxury, the same as films and music, and shouldn't be prioritised over essentials. Although I do realise plenty of people don't see things this way (unfortunately).
It's not about being able to afford it or not or if it's a luxury or not. It's about not being screw over as a customer and not supporting being shoved down these bad business practices.

This is just Microsoft giving the finger to everybody. This is just to prevent it so nobody steals their stuff and pirates their games, and in the end it's hurting everybody. They screwed up, real simple.
As well as used games.

Which is funny, because now they are guarantee to lose money from the get go.
 

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I had to deal with one suspected MS employee/suck up today about online activation and why it's unnecessary for single player games, I clarified in full detail what kind of gamer I am and how I play mostly single player RPGs, and the fool still justifies that there's no big deal with online activation and I should be connected, that's bullshit, and nonsensical. It does not make sense to have it in single player only games or for to play single player period, stop defending this decision.
 

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I don't give a damn whether or not I need an Internet connection. I have one, so do all my friends (as does everyone posting on this board). Sure, I can come up with some lame scenarios like "What if I want to game on my hike to Mt. Everest????", but the fact is that the vast majority of potential XBONE owners have internet access, so no problems.

The fact is that soon even your washing machine will require an internet connection, so get over it.

What I need to see is the quality of the gaming experience. If there are great games, then I will but it. Otherwise, I won't.

Real simple.


Wow, nice straw man argument you got there. We all know that every single person has a stable internet connection of that never drops and there are no inconsistencies whatsoever. Either you were hired as Microsoft PR, or you simply pull out opinions from your arse and pass them as fact and assume that every single Xbox One owner will have inherently stable and fast internet, irrespective of them living in the boonies or not. Keep up that logic, I'm sure it will take you far.

You refute that daily online activation is justified and not that big of a deal; Newsflash! The US has one of the worst infrastructures in the world, but places like Japan have one of the best out there, but they don't care about Microsoft, they don't need to worry about that. Just because the majority of Xbox One owners will have internet doesn't mean they will have STABLE or fast internet. Why can't you get that through your sick convoluted, Microsoft-brainwashing thoughts?
 
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While Japan does have one of the best infrastructures in the world, it has 2 glaring problems

1. Most of the superior network infrastructure is mostly in specific cities (Tokyo and Osaka especially)

2. Few people think of this, but Japan does have bandwidth limits with some ISPs limiting bandwidth to 30 GB/day, sounds like a lot until you realize that next gen games can exceed 30 GB now.
 
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While Japan does have one of the best infrastructures in the world, it has 2 glaring problems

1. Most of the superior network infrastructure is mostly in specific cities (Tokyo and Osaka especially)

2. Few people think of this, but Japan does have bandwidth limits with some ISPs limiting bandwidth to 30 GB/day, sounds like a lot until you realize that next gen games can exceed 30 GB now.


Our's still sucks overall compare to others; so what does Microsoft do? Give those without stable internet the proverbial "f**k you" or "screw off" gestures. I like in the city, but the internet in my apartment complex sucks monkey balls and is very slow, despite being "cable".


Dear Microsoft, sod off

-Sincerely, someone who thinks your "console " is convoluted
 

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I hate the XBox One's used game policy. The only locked digital distribution games I ever buy are on the PC, and they are only bought because they are CHEAP.

Like... Here's a throw-away game on Desura that I need to dump the code for.

Paranautical Activity Desura Code = MZZGN-T3YKR-4NBAK-APMH8-WQ5G2
 

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I haven't read any of this topic or have an idea what the current discussion is, but once games are shown, Halo hits, people see an exclusive, people will still buy this thing. Yeah some of these things suck, but people still bought BF3 when a lot of people were upset about Origin, people still pay for Xbox Live when IMO it doesn't offer that much compared to the competition anymore, people still bought Diablo 3 and The Sims, and so on and so on. So unless there's a massive amount of buyer protest, which I doubt, Microsoft will still make money and nothing will change much with the system's "features".

And off topic rant: I HATE the use of "XBone, xbone, Xbone"! I just read "x bone" every time! Why isn't it at the very least "XbOne"!? I prefer X1 or XB1 myself.
 

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It's used as a derogatory term.

Plus, it will make a catchy name for the first piracy app - Crossbones, or Xbones.

I've only heard Xdone or something like that in the derogatory manner. I'm sure a lot of people are not using it in that manner because the idea is fine, but it just doesn't read well.
 

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