Canada's government falls.

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Canada's opposition parties toppled the ruling Conservative minority government on Friday in a historic parliamentary finding of contempt, which doubled as a vote of no confidence and set the stage for the country's fourth national election in seven years. Recent polling data suggest that the Conservatives, led by Stephen Harper, are in striking distance of a majority this time around, but not quite. That makes the campaign, which kicks off over the weekend and lasts just over a month, one of the most important races in years.

Voters went into the previous two campaigns, in 2006 and 2008, with relatively clear preferences, analysts said. This time around, a larger-than-usual bloc of undecided voters could swing the polls either way. "The campaign could have a significant bearing on the outcome," said Peter Harder, a former senior civil servant and now senior policy adviser for law firm Fraser Milner Casgrain. Mr. Harper, 51 years old, has already staked out Canada's robust economic recovery from the global recession as his biggest campaign issue. His party has rolled out in recent weeks a series of ads touting his government's economic stewardship.
In a budget his government unveiled earlier this week, he signaled an official end to most of the stimulus spending that he spearheaded to get Canada through the crisis. The budget also forecast better-than-expect progress on the government's deficit-reduction measures, at a time when most of Canada's industrialized peers struggle with ballooning debt.

Mr. Harper also peppered the budget with a series of targeted spending measures that analysts said could appeal to a wide variety of voters in a campaign. That budget failed to win support from any of the three opposition parties this week, all but ending any chance of his government surviving. The budget document now serves as an economic manifesto for the Conservatives. "We've laid out a good fiscal track for Canada that is maintainable," Finance Minister Jim Flaherty told reporters this week. Mr. Harper said in a brief statement after the vote Friday that the economic recovery remained Canadians' top priority.

The opposition, meanwhile, is expected to emphasize a series of alleged ethical lapses the government has been tarred with, including the finding of contempt of Parliament. The finding alleges the government withheld from lawmakers key cost data related to anticrime legislation. The government has said the committee's work is politically motivated.
Friday's no-confidence measure allowed the opposition to avoid officially voting against the budget, and may help it frame the campaign's debate around the behavior of Mr. Harper's government, instead of economic matters.
The no-confidence vote, 156 to 145 along party lines, packed the galleries of the House of Commons. It is the first defeat of a Canadian government since 2005 and only the sixth in the nation's history. It is also the first time in Canadian history that a government has been voted in contempt of Parliament.
It was also largely expected, after opposition leaders came out Tuesday to voice opposition to the budget. Opposition leaders, who together have a majority in the House of Commons, had been maneuvering for weeks to bring the parliamentary contempt finding to a vote.

Mr. Harper now must meet with Canada's governor general, the representative of Queen Elizabeth II, Canada's head of state, in order to ask Parliament to be dissolved. Political parties will be battling for the 308 seats in the Commons. Conservatives currently hold 143 seats, Liberals 77, the Bloc Quebecois 47, and the New Democratic Party 36. There are two independent lawmakers, and three seats are vacant. Canada has had minority governments since 2004, with the Conservatives at the helm since 2006, after they ended 12 years of Liberal rule at elections that year. A party has to win at least 155 seats to form a majority government.[/p]
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Honestly, the only reason why Canada is in this good of shape as it is now, is because Stephen Harper. I voted for him and I'm going to continue to vote. Say what you will about the guy, but he's been doing one hell of a job. I'd rather him in there, than.... Liberals I think it is in B.C.
 

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Maybe it's because I'm not Canadian, but what exactly does "falls" mean in this context? The article didn't sound much like a sudden catastrophe or dissolution of government, but just elections not being so diametrically driven as before.
 

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Celice said:
Maybe it's because I'm not Canadian, but what exactly does "falls" mean in this context? The article didn't sound much like a sudden catastrophe or dissolution of government, but just elections not being so diametrically driven as before.
I'm Canadian and I don't get it either.
The government didn't fall, there's just going to be elections to get a new one.
 

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Celice said:
Maybe it's because I'm not Canadian, but what exactly does "falls" mean in this context? The article didn't sound much like a sudden catastrophe or dissolution of government, but just elections not being so diametrically driven as before.
Over reaction in the news?? NEVAR!!!!

I could say something about the submitters bias and the fact that he's got a Confederate flag, but nah...
 

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pyrmon24 said:
Celice said:
Maybe it's because I'm not Canadian, but what exactly does "falls" mean in this context? The article didn't sound much like a sudden catastrophe or dissolution of government, but just elections not being so diametrically driven as before.
I'm Canadian and I don't get it either.
The government didn't fall, there's just going to be elections to get a new one.
Technically Harper's government fell in a vote of parlament.
If I labeled it "Harper's government falls" I think it would confuse non-Canadians because they would have no clue what I'm talking about.
 

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Vidboy10 said:
pyrmon24 said:
Celice said:
Maybe it's because I'm not Canadian, but what exactly does "falls" mean in this context? The article didn't sound much like a sudden catastrophe or dissolution of government, but just elections not being so diametrically driven as before.
I'm Canadian and I don't get it either.
The government didn't fall, there's just going to be elections to get a new one.
Technically Harper's government fell in a vote of parlament.
If I labeled it "Harper's government falls" I think it would confuse non-Canadians because they would have no clue what I'm talking about.
It still confused non-Canadians and a Canadian.
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mercluke said:
i misread "falls" as "fails"...
Well they failed too, but I am not too amused with having to vote. Harper is and will always be a fuckbag as far as I am concerned, the guy and his whole party are a bunch of pricks and have been so paranoid of losing any election that they constantly attack the other political parties through attack ads on TV. Yet they trashed the Liberal party to get into power because of illicit spending and wasting tax payer dollars, so it's ironic that they would be held in contempt by the House of Commons, potentially making way for the Liberals to take power again assuming Ignatieff has some balls in this election campaign and focuses on the issues while ignoring the attempts by the Conservatives to trash his reputation. Just gotta say the right things and all will be fine.
 

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I don't know where you've been, but EVERY party sends out ad's that bashes the other. Hell, here in B.C a few years ago, the liberals' ads were nothing BUT bashing the other parties. They didn't make one to say why we should vote for them, but why we shouldn't vote for their opponent.

Liberals here in B.C suck. B.C was a great place until a few years back, now it's gone to shit where only the insanely rich people can afford to live here.
 

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Vidboy10 said:
Mr. Harper now must meet with Canada's governor general, the representative of Queen Elizabeth II, Canada's head of state, in order to ask Parliament to be dissolved.
I can't believe that inbreed and her idiot family is still relevant in England, let alone in any more of the world.

But back on topic: Through the sounds of things there's pretty much no chance of anyone but the Conservatives coming close to winning the elections. Is this a real issue bothering the Canadian peoples or just politics for politics sake?
 

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cwstjdenobs said:
Vidboy10 said:
Mr. Harper now must meet with Canada's governor general, the representative of Queen Elizabeth II, Canada's head of state, in order to ask Parliament to be dissolved.
I can't believe that inbreed and her idiot family is still relevant in England, let alone in any more of the world.

But back on topic: Through the sounds of things there's pretty much no chance of anyone but the Conservatives coming close to winning the elections. Is this a real issue bothering the Canadian peoples or just politics for politics sake?
The Queen doesn't have an ounce of power in Canada. She can't make any decisions in Canada and if we ask her to sign something, she doesn't have a choice to sign it. She's really just there for the show.
 

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pyrmon24 said:
The Queen doesn't have an ounce of power in Canada. She can't make any decisions in Canada and if we ask her to sign something, she doesn't have a choice to sign it. She's really just there for the show.

Same here you know. Sorry just as far as I'm concerned it's still too much them been involved even as stage dressing.
 

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