Overrated rpgs

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

I know people love games like Chrono Trigger,Final Fantasy and Pokemon but to me they seem somewhat overrated... Well... maybe I'm stating the obvious but I'm sure there would be alot of people that just think I'm trying to ''bash'' these games,inwhich I'm not,but I think theres something wrong when people call Chrono Trigger ''one of the best rpgs of all time''.Don't get me wrong,I don't hate CT but I just think it's sad when truly memorable games like Chrono Cross,Oblivion/Morrowind,Tales of Symphonia,Vagrant Story,Shadow Hearts,Baten Kaitos and Legend of Mana are not even considered as high on the totem pole as CT,Pokemon,or FF7 from what I've seen on these Forums atleast... I liked Pokemon and FF7 but I never really got into CT,it just seems too old school and like the kinda game that probably isn't that great until later on... Pokemon is and has always been fun to play but they get dull after awhile,maybe you could say that about any game but it would still be nice to see them change Pokemon up a little... Then theres FF7.I really liked FF7 but does it really deserve to be considered one of the best rpgs of all time either?I've heard people that think so... I really don't think CT,FF7,or Pokemon deserve to have that title... (I know there are more but they escape me atm...)

Dangy · Mar 28, 2010

Final Fantasy is overrated.

JamesTrain · Mar 28, 2010

Pokemon used to be cool but now its overrated.

Dragonlord · Mar 28, 2010

Nearly all RPG are overrated. Oblivion is overrated. Morrowind is good though. FF is horribly overrated. Vagrant Story definitely overrated too (come on, something that boring and cliché can't be good). Pokémon definitely overrated too (although the franchise is a miracle franchise as it's horribly boring but sells like hot cake).

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

...What?How is Vagrant Story overrated??It has really unique,fun gameplay,more than I can say for Pkm,FF7 or CT... I don't see how you think it's boring and cliche'd,lol.And how is Oblivion overrated?You can go anywhere,do anything. =/

Hop2089 · Mar 28, 2010

Most RPGs are overrated but there are a few underrated RPGs one being Guardian's Crusade for the PSX.

7mike7 · Mar 28, 2010

i think final fantasy is horrible

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

lol What...? Are you serious?Guardian's Crusade???That game looks like... I won't even bother to say what I'm thinking... But I've seen vids of that game and it doesn't look that great itself... Plus I've known someone who played that and he said it was one of the worst games he had ever played,and I believe him from seeing the videos... It's still not even nearly as good as any of the games I mentioned in my first post... Ugh,sorry but using toys to battle...?I'll pass...

DreamTrooper · Mar 28, 2010

Lol i see hate-posts headin our way. Over-rated does no necessarily mean the games are crap, just made to seem better than they really are. Pokemon, i play those games still, and im 19, just remind me of the days when i was a kid playing and trading with all my lil hommies

FF games have great storylines, although they are stretching out the FF7 franchise a bit. The other RPG's stated i cant really say anything about as ive never played them, but all in all, it comes down to preference, not "ratedness"

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

QUOTE said:
Lol i see hate-posts headin our way. Over-rated does no necessarily mean the games are crap, just made to seem better than they really are. Pokemon, i play those games still, and im 19, just remind me of the days when i was a kid playing and trading with all my lil hommies tongue.gif FF games have great storylines, although they are stretching out the FF7 franchise a bit. The other RPG's stated i cant really say anything about as ive never played them, but all in all, it comes down to preference, not "ratedness"

Well... I guess I kinda agree with that but I guess I called them ''overrated'' is because those games get mentioned for being ''the best rpgs of all time'' while alot of the games I mentioned get overshadowed by those games.

UltraMagnus · Mar 28, 2010

the newer pokemon games, seriously, did they have to keep adding new pokemon until the got to the five billion that they have now.

Most vaguely decent RPGs end up being "over rated" in a way though, given that they are one of the hardest and most complex types of games to make well. A otherwise good RPG can be ruined by a terrible storyline, gameplay, combat system, or character progression system, whereas a FPS can sell well with just pretty graphics.

Rydian · Mar 28, 2010

If somebody enjoys it then they enjoy it and that's what matters.

Guild McCommunist · Mar 28, 2010

Rydian said:
If somebody enjoys it then they enjoy it and that's what matters.

I'll go with this.

The word "overrated" is thrown around too much nowadays. People seem to not really be using it in a sense of "this game truly isn't that good" but more of a sense of "LOOK AT ME I'M NONCONFORMIST WOOOHOOO!" Seriously. Any game that gets remotely popular is dubbed "overrated". Pokemon? Overrated. Call of Duty? Overrated. Halo? Overrated. Final Fantasy? Overrated. Everything seems to be. You may not like a series of games or a game, but that doesn't mean it's "overrated". I don't like Final Fantasy, nor do I like Chrono Trigger or other popular titles. But that's just me. I may be contradicting myself since I know I've used the term "overrated" in the context I'm bashing right now, but I'll stop here. A lot of games that are "overrated" are actually quite good, people just don't want to acknowledge that they're good since they feel unique if they don't stand in line with all the fanboys or devout following a game has. But really, you just end up standing in line with the thousands of people who mark games as overrated. Nonconformity is the new thing to conform to.

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

Well,I see what you're saying and I still stand by my post and I didn't say that those games weren't good... It's just that I don't see how they could be considered ''the best of all time'' or whatever when more unique and inventive games(like the ones I posted)may get praised for awhile... maybe... but they'll never be considered ''some of the best of all time'' like those other games were,I know some people just may like the whole old school feel better or whatever but still though...

UltraMagnus · Mar 28, 2010

Porygonal said:
Well,I see what you're saying and I still stand by my post and I didn't say that those games weren't good... It's just that I don't see how they could be considered ''the best of all time'' or whatever when more unique and inventive games(like the ones I posted)may get praised for awhile... maybe... but they'll never be considered ''some of the best of all time'' like those other games were,I know some people just may like the whole old school feel better or whatever but still though...

unique and inventive != good

I could make a game about gay pokemon on acid and it would be unique and inventive.

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

-_-' I mean unique and inventive in a good way,ffs.LIKE THE GAMES I STATED IN MY POST...

Dragonlord · Mar 28, 2010

Porygonal said:
...What?How is Vagrant Story overrated??It has really unique,fun gameplay,more than I can say for Pkm,FF7 or CT... I don't see how you think it's boring and cliche'd,lol.And how is Oblivion overrated?You can go anywhere,do anything. =/

VS had boring game mechanics. After a couple of places you've seen the game mechanics and there is nothing interesting to it. In fact it gets annoying to do type-book-keeping and swapping weapons constantly to improve type advantage. The targeting system is annoying too and gives nothing except cramps. Story itself doesn't hook one too. So overall while playable and perhaps enjoyable by some it's sub-par at best. One of the games I had been happy to have gone from my desk as fast as possible. Granted the Pkmn and company have not great game mechanics but VS doesn't send something new, unique (sorry, it's simply not unique, no matter how much you try to stake that claim) nor interesting, especially in the long run. So it's on the same level as the others.

Concerning Oblivion just play Morrowind and compare the two side by side and you will see why Oblivion sucks. It does not even have remotely the depth and variability Morrowind sends into the field. The story is run-of-the-mill of the worst, the level-with-me system is most probably the worst game mechanics idea since E.T., the conversation system is a joke on wheels (pun intended) and it's totally one-sided which is death to an RPG. One-sided means unless you play "their" character build it's a huge chore and RPGs are about role playing, hence experience a world using a build of your choice. They allow though indirectly only one build as all others are tedious to play. In Morrowind on the other hand I played through with various builds: lance wielding Argonian, Bow wielding Kahjit (damn I never can remember how this is written correctly

) or Cross-Bow/Sword wielding assassin Ryukaissen(custom character mod, makes you play as an anthropomorphic dragon

) specialized on kills-from-behind. Each of these builds had been fun to play and different while all equally well to play with. Under Oblivion you are totally screwed if you don't play with their preferred character build. I tried different builds but it sucks so hard I never fully developed them except the "developer chosen one" and that's not funny in the long run.

Ah... nearly forgot... why VS cliché? Whenever somebody builds a game around killing dragons he gets an insta-cliché tag issued from me

Rydian · Mar 28, 2010

Chrono trigger has time traveling actually affecting acts and events in different timelines, a battle system unlike anything else released in it's time, and a bunch of possible endings (many totally different endings, not slight variations on the same one).

If you say it's not unique and innovative, you must have never actually played it... or you're talking about the DS version, not knowing that it's a port of the original for the super fucking nintendo, the only things added/upgraded being a new translation (same storyline), the FMVs, and two optional dungeons.

You might as well try to talk about the bible and say "Who's jesus?"

Porygonal · Mar 28, 2010

lol,VS IS unique because what other game can you name that is like that...?There sure wasn't a game like that then and probably not even now.Atleast the gameplay is something DIFFERENT rather than than games that just wanna play like FF clones with a few differences here and there,but not enough to make a difference... And I never had a problem with the lvling system in Oblivion,nor the character jobs.I made my custom job and it worked fine for me and the other things you complain about just seem minor to me... And how can you say VS is cliched when mostly EVERY rpg is gunna have you killing dragons... I don't see what the big deal is.

Sefi · Mar 28, 2010

Talking about overrated RPGs is overrated.

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