Hacking Nintendo DSi hacked!

Toni Plutonij · Nov 11, 2008

Xmortal said:
A252 said:

Here! http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=hxEinMflYWA

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This is fake

No Camera
No Power Button under Control Pad
Inconclusion: No is a DSi

Nope, it's not fake....clearly, you can see that there are three LEDs, they are on left side (not the right), and ther IS power button..watch more closely and carefully!!

mkoo · Nov 11, 2008

DjoeN said:
I clicked the Egg!

I'm Screwed now! (i bet the dragon or monster will come eat me once it comes out!)

Ok, back on topic:

Yasu needs to hack the DSi Channels so i can access it from Europe

(or i really do screw up some stuff)

It's most likely server checks your ip to see if you're connecting internet from Japan.
It might be possible to connect ds to internet over your pc that connected to a proxy in Japan. :geek:

This is all assuming region lock is only IP ofcourse.

nitro2k01 · Nov 11, 2008

Narin said:
Its impossible to patch ane xploit on the actual game cart but it is possible to patch the firmware so the exploit can't be used.

Now I'm just nitpicking, but it is in fact possible to do that. Since the game is loaded from the cartridge into RAM, initially by the firmware, it's actually possible for the firmware to patch game code in vitro. The firmware can patch the initial image loaded into RAM, as well as put a hook on the routine that reads from the cart. However, it's impractical, and the code would be specialized for each games. Nothing they'd want to do unless there was a serious flaw in other words.

Jabcecle · Nov 11, 2008

agentgamma said:
A252 said:

Here! http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=hxEinMflYWA

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embedded

Nintendo plain sucks at making their system hard to hack XD

This is the best song in the world ever! I need to get a new DS so I can put this on my iPod.

shansoft · Nov 11, 2008

DjoeN said:
I clicked the Egg!

I'm Screwed now! (i bet the dragon or monster will come eat me once it comes out!)

Ok, back on topic:

Yasu needs to hack the DSi Channels so i can access it from Europe

(or i really do screw up some stuff)

I dont think DSi Store is IP lock, a lot people outside Japan are able to access it...

I will be getting mine in 5 day...

retiredjerk · Nov 11, 2008

i got my dsi last week and just opened up earlier. i cant tell that its really much thinner . in fact all my friends said the thickness looked the same. the matte black color isnt doing it for me. so far i cant really do much with it since every damn thing is in Japanese. But if i hack does come out at least i'll have a launch model to test it out with

Sumea · Nov 11, 2008

Narin said:
They can force the update on you by making games include the latest firmware and require the games to check for that firmware before they run.

this is wrong. They made new system, but DS Games itself by nintendo's standard must remain same. Making code that would not be understood by older ds/lite units is just againts the purpose, ds games not working on ds? Nope. Also, they are troubled to fit the game itself to rom, then alone a firmware update with updater? Nope. Also, i think that ingame wifi is part of game, and dsi could not stop that from working in vain not having a firmware. In everything else, you are right.

Also, here i sit, looked at this. Im not losing my homebrew, beatiful sakura ui, gba slot nor nothing over two cameras, BADER media player with no video or multiple music format support. If you wait DSi to get hacked, why? If flashcart can't be booted, then why wait? Most of you have your lites, or even phats. I do, after i fix mine. They will have flashcarts, homebrew, media capability and gba slot still. (why i am mentioning the damn slot? All it gives is moar games rumble and ram, and DSi has the ram already, i thik and whole slot issue is unrelevant...) I am not down playing the DSi, but more like saying: those who got one, use it for what you can, there is still older version what does what else you would want to. Do not make a wait something.

Also, those who apparently did not read and were speculating yasu to make roms from sd: nope, he just wrote he does NOT like what majority of flashcart users use their cart for, I.E. Yasu does not support piracy. Yet he is into running homebrew code on this new hardware.

Also, any pokemon fan would not be happy about no slot2... Damn, there was that slot thing again!

... I leave you sound of silence...

lemming · Nov 11, 2008

Narin said:
Just a heads up folks, what was used to do this was a save game exploit. So far, there are currently 3 known save game exploits but so far, none of them can be used to play commercial games or flashcards, just homebrew. There are groups of people right now trying to find all the save game exploits they can.

Hey

Is there another thread or site with more info on this.?
Most of this thread is just speculation.
I'd like to know what is actually going on...

Thanks

SanGor · Nov 12, 2008

I'd also like to know where you heard it, cause I havn't heard anything anywhere about those exploits or some group working on something like that.

Narin · Nov 12, 2008

lemming said:
Narin said:

Just a heads up folks, what was used to do this was a save game exploit. So far, there are currently 3 known save game exploits but so far, none of them can be used to play commercial games or flashcards, just homebrew. There are groups of people right now trying to find all the save game exploits they can.

Hey

Is there another thread or site with more info on this.?
Most of this thread is just speculation.
I'd like to know what is actually going on...

Thanks

QUOTE(SanGor @ Nov 11 2008, 08:07 PM)

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I'd also like to know where you heard it, cause I havn't heard anything anywhere about those exploits or some group working on something like that.

This information isn't available to the public. The hackers behind these exploits are keeping it under wraps and within a tight knit community. These exploits may never be publicly released for that matter mainly because once they become mainstream, Nintendo can easily patch them and the exploits would become useless. The same thing is happening with the PS3, hackers have found ways to run backups on the PS3 but the information was never publically released due to the method used could easily be patched by Sony.

At any rate, to delve more into it, these exploits are rather simple. A game contains fault code used to reading saves, by modifying the save file in such a way, you can exploit the faulty code by running injected code in the save file which allows you to boot up files, in this case, home brew off the built in SD slot. This is similar to the method used on the Wii with the Twilight hack that allowed people to load homebrew on the Wii.

The problem with it is, these exploits can easily be patched by future firmware updates by Nintendo to make this method useless, hence why information about the process is under tight wraps right now. I can confirm that these hacks are real and so far, there has been 3 different save exploits found so far, at least, disclosed to the DSi hacking community.

The problem is, to make this exploit work, you need to be able to modify the games's save data. So you either need third party hardware or a DS Phat or Lite with a flashcard to dump the game save and transfer it back to the game cart to be used on the DSi. So right now, this method isn't exactly a feasible method as if you can perform the save exploit, you already have means to run homebrew on the DS.

At any rate, the hackers are busy looking for other exploits for the DSi but so far, the only ones found or at least disclosed have been save exploits. Nintendo has made tampering the DSi and its firmware rather difficult.

doldal · Nov 12, 2008

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=pGrn38o5lyo

SanGor · Nov 12, 2008

what the hell is that video about ?

lemming · Nov 12, 2008

doldal said:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=pGrn38o5lyo

That's a big step forward
I guess one at a time is better than nothing

I wonder if this will be released to the public...

Canonbeat234 · Nov 12, 2008

So this is true, I wonder why people didn't keep their mouth shut about the R4DS. To me no one understands the word secret

Nintendo already shows its power what it can do to flashcard companies. Look at R4DS, right now that same company that made the R4DS went under another transformation thus giving the N5DS.

The DSi is nothing but another handheld that's getting flushed down the shitter IMO. I don't believe its worthless, it just that why have cameras? music? This is basically the same answer without the flashcards. They can't put all flashcards out of business, because one way or another company is going to make a flashcard then etc. =)

I might get a DSi just to play my DS games, use my DS Phat (Which is now 1-2 years old, I don't know how to replace the battery) for the flashcards to play the DS roms.

Narin · Nov 12, 2008

Those are basically backup cartridges. Basically they are carts that were made to store one game and one game only. They are very hard to find as they normally have to be bought in bulk in are used by Nintendo DS game counterfeiters. They can be used to store one game on it and act and behave like a real game cartridge for all intents and purposes. They are not truly flashcards.

Also they can be expensive depending on where you get them and what size you get. The cheaper ones tend to come with 32 meg memory. The more memory, the higher the price. Also depending on the model you get, they aren't easy to use and require specialized hardware to transfer games onto them. Basically all they are, are Nintendo DS cartridges that can be both read and written to unlike the original cartridges that can only be read from, hence the term ROM.

jonesman99 · Nov 12, 2008

the vid did kinda look suspicious when he didn't give us a good look at the card to see if it had a microSD chip. o well big step forward, two big steps back... but to be honest i still think its hackable. im just gettin into all this. i think its amazing what people our age can design and come up with and only ups the re-use value of the ds's

Ferrariman · Nov 13, 2008

I just thought of something. If we could make a homebrew that launches Flashcarts to bypass the blacklist, would it work? Or does the DS rule out flashcarts via hardware.

maako · Nov 13, 2008

I'm visiting my parents in-law here in Japan and picked up the very last DSi in the hood (leaving a little guy in school uniform standing behind me empty handed, hehe).
The last hand held I had was a Game Boy Advanced (or Color).
Then I got the Korg DS-10 and My Japanese Coach (AKA Speak like a Robot).
For sure I'm looking forward to a hack, but so far it's been worth every Yen spent so far, and I'd happily pay for Electroplankton too (if I only could find a store that has one).
I'm obviously not much of a gamer (well, I got my Wii), but the potential of educational applications, language coaches, music sequencers/instruments and other useful tools are endless.
Not to forget the endless possibilities with home brews and the joy of gettin online at hot spots without bringing a laptop around.
And I can't wait to figure out how to get some kind of VoIP running too!

jonesman99 · Nov 13, 2008

If the dsi wasn't supposed to run movies at all, here is some proof that it can... Idk how they did it but they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbkiasSWRcs

It has a pretty good resolution. Can we discuss this?

RupeeClock · Nov 13, 2008

jonesman99 said:
If the dsi wasn't supposed to run movies at all, here is some proof that it can... Idk how they did it but they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbkiasSWRcs

It has a pretty good resolution. Can we discuss this?

He's using a DS Vision to play the Lucario movie, I have this myself.

http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-zvy-71...-j-70-2xo1.html

That would work on the DS Lite and DS Phat too.

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