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soliunasm said:
ReddPaint said:
Well if Nintendo skillfully patches all the loopholes (which should have been done out the door IMO), then there is always the possibility for a dual flash-able mod chip to come hit the market, which I kind of hope for, because it will deter most of the little wannabe cut-n-paste coders & newbiez, who don't understand the art of hacking as well as the concept of HOMEBREW, but would rather look for the easiest way to STEAL the hard work of true coders, developers & publishers
"skillfully patches all the loopholes"
"Nintendo"

I'm sorry, do you know who you are talking about?
If you honestly think Nintendo isn't going to fix exploits that will compromise the security of licensed published work, then you are a naive fool. I would first like state that no-one else has officially validated that Yasu's proof-of-concept is even legitimate, for all we know it's just a well crafted hoax. In addition, a consumer electronics system, be it a PC, game console, microwave, what ever...it never comes perfect and secure on launch, there are deadlines for marketing and delaying can result in losing numbers against competitors. Japan is the like the big beta testing playground for the introduction of new s h i t to the populous. The Japanese don't normally steal DMCA protected material like the rest of you heathens so the security might sometimes be under-looked and I'm pretty confident, If there is an exploit it will be fazed out by the time it leaves the shores of Japan to the rest of the world and if it is not fixed by then, required system updates will make it harder and harder to keep up. For example look at the Wii. Yes there were softmods but most have been deterred by implementing required system updates. Now in order to run unauthorized code, a hardware modification is required, which most do not have the heart to execute after being intimidated with the idea of over 6 difficult soldering points, although it will be good business for me...

Unless someone finds a way to fully decrypt the firmware present and future, be prepared to head to RadioShack to pick up a soldering iron!!!
 
ReddPaint said:
soliunasm said:
ReddPaint said:
Well if Nintendo skillfully patches all the loopholes (which should have been done out the door IMO), then there is always the possibility for a dual flash-able mod chip to come hit the market, which I kind of hope for, because it will deter most of the little wannabe cut-n-paste coders & newbiez, who don't understand the art of hacking as well as the concept of HOMEBREW, but would rather look for the easiest way to STEAL the hard work of true coders, developers & publishers
"skillfully patches all the loopholes"
"Nintendo"

I'm sorry, do you know who you are talking about?
If you honestly think Nintendo isn't going to fix exploits that will compromise the security of licensed published work, then you are a naive fool. I would first like state that no-one else has officially validated that Yasu's proof-of-concept is even legitimate, for all we know it's just a well crafted hoax. In addition, a consumer electronics system, be it a PC, game console, microwave, what ever...it never comes perfect and secure on launch, there are deadlines for marketing and delaying can result in losing numbers against competitors. Japan is the like the big beta testing playground for the introduction of new s h i t to the populous. The Japanese don't normally steal DMCA protected material like the rest of you heathens so the security might sometimes be under-looked and I'm pretty confident, If there is an exploit it will be fazed out by the time it leaves the shores of Japan to the rest of the world and if it is not fixed by then, required system updates will make it harder and harder to keep up. For example look at the Wii. Yes there were softmods but most have been deterred by implementing required system updates. Now in order to run unauthorized code, a hardware modification is required, which most do not have the heart to execute after being intimidated with the idea of over 6 difficult soldering points, although it will be good business for me...

Unless someone finds a way to fully decrypt the firmware present and future, be prepared to head to RadioShack to pick up a soldering iron!!!
They will try to fix exploits, but they half-ass it and they cause more loopholes. Case-in-point, the Wii.
 
So, it seems to me; this hasn't exactly landed us any solid information. The hopefuls are still assuming the DSi can be hacked, while the skeptics are assuming it can't/will be very short term. Until we have English DSis, and see solid information on how they update in general, we just have to wait & see.
 
lemming said:
Everyone who has been saying bad things about it hasn't played around with one.
It's a very cool little machine....

Most of the people bitching would kill to have one, they're just experiencing a bout of sour grapes because they bought the DS Lite, and felt rather superior thinking there would be no further update to this generation of console.
 
he beat me
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i don't know how this works, but my idea was a savegame exploit
 
Twiggy12 said:
well....heres a full translation...

DSi the [do] which is bought - [2008/11/501: 54: 52]
When you became aware, DSi black was bought…Next also JY-PSUAD11.Has fallen to the laboratory conversion
Repeated hitting to take with the rammer, because you drop.Now [potsupun] comfort.If so, DSi white you buy, good duck…
Touch feeling of black is hateful.Friction with the nail.White seems [subesube].[motsuku] you see, it is orz which is
The rear power source button it is difficult to push.As for mirror function of camera [paku] [ri] of portable application inside.

By the way, because, hack moving homebrew, [niyaniya] doing is purpose,
Change please do not expect.[majikon] becoming popular too much, playing, playing
To become the shoulder body it does not have to be regrettable narrow, and, we would like to avoid the repetition, don't you think?.
No.1926 - COMMENTS (1)
DSi hack success [2008/11/400: 46: 15]
It succeeds in HelloWorld indication with DSi.With the [ano] method everyone thinking.The apparatus having, trying in [ru] one
Because you received, as for moving there is no I, is, but.But if it releases, measure waiting, the [ru] it does,
Hate it puts out [majikon] popularity, -.Temporarily, unless the substance you buy.Selling, it probably is [ru]?…
When CFW it is possible, however it is funny, FW [tsu] [te] signature it is not attached kana jk? PSP how has become the [ro] which is

I succeeded to launch a homebrew HelloWorld ON DSi!
The method may be same as you think up.

 
Xeijin said:
lemming said:
Everyone who has been saying bad things about it hasn't played around with one.
It's a very cool little machine....

Most of the people bitching would kill to have one, they're just experiencing a bout of sour grapes because they bought the DS Lite, and felt rather superior thinking there would be no further update to this generation of console.
Not quite. I still happily use an original DS. I don't feel superior to anybody (well, not because of my DS, anyway), and I haven't been burned in any way by the release of the DSi, unless you expected me to wait the four years between the original DS's release and the DSi's. And yet, I still don't want a DSi. Could it be possible that people might simply not want one? Nah, it's Nintendo, we're all fanboys, right?

You need to grow up and stop taking personal offense to the fact that some people don't think the DSi is a worthy investment.
 
ReddPaint said:
For example look at the Wii. Yes there were softmods but most have been deterred by implementing required system updates.
even with the new updates you can still run the backuploader
Now in order to run unauthorized code, a hardware modification is required,
NO, that's just plain wrong. who told you this?

do you have to get high to think up such bs or do you just pull it out of your ass?
all homebrew can be run on any system menu currently except for starfall which is only designed for a specific system menu (3.2)
 
stanleyopar2000 said:
wholy schitt!..now just get it to acess the Flashcards..Hack the SD slot...and hack DSi Store and im Sold!!


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Number one that's compltely unnessesary. Number 2 unless you want to break the region lock of the DSI games don't bother. It is as easy to load your own apps on the DSi via app store as it is to get linux on the PS3!!!!!!!! Number 3 this beast has 256MB of RAM!!!!!!! Number 4 nintndo already stated that they want the DSi to be more than a game console so there already is an easy way to get homebew on the DSi without hacking it's very similar to the android marketplace and apple app store for the iphone. So due to all the redily availabl aps and even music games for the DS te only REAL REASON FOR HACKING THE DSI IS TO PLAY PIRATED GAMES. In addition they could just stop cart games and just make all the new games downloadable like the new DSi games which ca be stored on your SD card already however I still want a hack available that would kill the region coding on the DSi ware games which does really suck. But other than that this device built-in has most of the same abilities as a flashcart equipped DS lite and then some this beast doesn't need flashcarts as most of them are microsd enabled this DSi has an SD slot built in It can already do most of but not all of the same things an R4 flahcart can do anyway.
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Canonbeat234 said:
ReddPaint said:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves people. Granted the exploit (if it's real) is only a slight sign of hope for the possibility for running code in what could be another endless cat-n-mouse game of the firmwares like it has been for the PSP. You also have to take into consideration that the big "N" has a couple months to patch the holes by the time it hits stateside here in the U.S.
I just hope DAX and others as ingenious as him join in what will be the new "DSI HOMEBREW" scene... unfortunately, regardless of running code on the DSI, I have a terrible feeling the next generation of NDS games are going to be difficult to backup if Nintendo starts to implement stronger rom encryption and key data signing protocols in newer upcoming games.

Exactly my point, remember this exploitation is just a small step for Yasu compare to Nintendo re-modeling the DSi. Remember how the glitches inside a Japanese game they are still there but when revision inside the USA version the glitches are gone or lessen? This needs to keep under a tight scrutiny so the news don't spread fast that it can get out of hand.

Must I remind R4DS users what Nintendo did to that company?! Nintendo knows that they can't stop pirating, so they decided to counter it with the DSi. If this information comes out then Nintendo going to make a firmware update that is going to stop the DSi Homebrew for good!

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Wrong nintendo has no intension of killing homebrew however they just want to kill off pirate devices their DS store will in the near future have many apps that are similar in function to the previous homebrew apps we know and love. All homebrew coders need to do is to find the DS store sdk that will come out very soon then port their homebrew apps as long as they aren't for piracy to the DS store. Nintendo in an article at maxconsole.net stated that they want their DSi to be part of everyday life and not just a game console. They want people to dvelop new complex apps for the DSi plus not only that but homebrew coders will get paid for creating apps for the DS at the expense of those that want to run those apps on the DSi. So I will have to dissagree with your statement beacuse some of what you said isn't true but not completely false some homebrew will never make it but considering nintendo's new plans with the DSi with the new features that will come you will no longer need to hack the DSI nor use flashcarts again. As compared to he new abilities of the DSI flashcarts are no longer nessesary unless you want to kill the region coding. Otherwise it's wasted effort.
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don't double post.

I love how we are suddenly getting new members here that are really anti piracy....

and if you think nintendo are going to encourage or even allow homebrew then you are a fool and tool, they will only allow people to develop for the DS that pay their (rather large) licence fees. why would they? they don't make any money from the consoles, the only way they make money is from fees from game sales.
 
qjopera said:
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Number one that's compltely unnessesary. Number 2 unless you want to break the region lock of the DSI games don't bother. It is as easy to load your own apps on the DSi via app store as it is to get linux on the PS3!!!!!!!! Number 3 this beast has 256MB of RAM!!!!!!! Number 4 nintndo already stated that they want the DSi to be more than a game console so there already is an easy way to get homebew on the DSi without hacking it's very similar to the android marketplace and apple app store for the iphone. So due to all the redily availabl aps and even music games for the DS te only REAL REASON FOR HACKING THE DSI IS TO PLAY PIRATED GAMES. In addition they could just stop cart games and just make all the new games downloadable like the new DSi games which ca be stored on your SD card already however I still want a hack available that would kill the region coding on the DSi ware games which does really suck. But other than that this device built-in has most of the same abilities as a flashcart equipped DS lite and then some this beast doesn't need flashcarts as most of them are microsd enabled this DSi has an SD slot built in It can already do most of but not all of the same things an R4 flahcart can do anyway.
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It strains the brain to read your posts because everything is condensed into one paragraph. There is consistency in bad spelling and grammar. Be more organized if you want to prove a point.
 
UltraMagnus said:
don't double post.

I love how we are suddenly getting new members here that are really anti piracy....

and if you think nintendo are going to encourage or even allow homebrew then you are a fool and tool, they will only allow people to develop for the DS that pay their (rather large) licence fees. why would they? they don't make any money from the consoles, the only way they make money is from fees from game sales.

o_O

You said that you love how we are suddenly getting new members... the poster that you're directing that at has actually been here a year longer than you oO''
 
Not much happening on his site

He mentions hard-drive trouble on his PC
Nothing DSi related...

I thought the flash card companies would have had something out by now.
I guess they don't care too much about the japanese market
 
lemming said:
Not much happening on his site

He mentions hard-drive trouble on his PC
Nothing DSi related...

I thought the flash card companies would have had something out by now.
I guess they don't care too much about the japanese market

These things take time....
 
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