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cubin' said:
benchma®k- Surely you at least have some problems with your lungs? Weed isn't totally safe if you're smoking it all the time..you are smoking plant matter after all and that isn't really good for you.

lol... sorry you're right. I meant weed related health problems as opposed to the obvious smoke one. I know i am doing damage, but i dont smoke it ALL the time. I've been smoking a long time granted, but its an occasional habit. Depending on work commitments etc i go a couple of months between smokes.. and even when i have the time its only a fortnightly thing.

Im sure there are people doing much more damage to themselves through drinking that i am with my smoking. Unfortunetely though, since alcohol isnt a controlled substance, people fall into the trap of thinking its ok. Out of the top 20 worst drugs (including heroin and ecstacy), it would come in at about number 5. The long term effects are life threatening, and its completely anti-social. Meaning once you've had more than your body can take, most people act irrationally and completely out of character... and that can be the most dangerous part!


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Something that I've noticed is that everyone talks about how weed can be laced and shit, but no one has said anything on how to actually know if it is?
 

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Interessant subject on addiction.

First : Drugs are dangerous ... and Dealers... or Leaders ... are controlling the world ...

QUOTE said:
The Assembly is alarmed by the dramatic increase in recent years in the traffic in women and forced prostitution in Council of Europe member states. It is worried by the increasing involvement of organised criminal groups in these lucrative crimes, which these groups use as a basis for financing and expanding their other activities, such as drugs and arms trafficking and money laundering. The Assembly is also concerned about the deterioration of the treatment of trafficked women, bordering on slavery, which has resulted from this development. (Council of Europe 1997)

Second : The times they are changin'... since the seventies : they laced near everything ... they control YOU also ... Weed is almost transgenic from seeds and plants are pushed with a lot of acid chemicals ... and shit ( funny name ) is no more (pure ?) shit ! Laced weed/drug doesn't mean that it has to be done with other drugs... they use anything ... starting with rat poison and draino... or anything else ... they don't care about their "consumers" ... they sell POISON !

Third : Drugs are everywhere... Young people are starting younger also ... As a good starting point you can check the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction

btw : Alcohol is a hard drug ...

QUOTE said:
Formaldehyde can also be released by:
* burning wood
* burning kerosene
* burning natural gas
* burning cigarettes
* automobile emissions
* natural processes

And so on ...

So finally welcome in reality ... Ever heard of Substance Death Or Death or simply D... like Drug ?

As P.K. Dick points out in his poignant afterword in Scanner Darkly (which, condensed and edited, is also reproduced at the end of the movie ): "This has been a novel about some people who were punished entirely too much for what they did." often reduce to the idea that junkies just want to have fun - they rarely set out to destroy themselves or hurt others. They deserve our compassion, not our contempt.

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AUTHOR'S NOTE


This has been a novel about some people who were punished entirely too much for what they did. They wanted to have a good time, but they were like children playing in the street; they could see one after another of them being killed--run over, maimed, destroyed--but they continued to play anyhow. We really all were very happy for a while, sitting around not toiling but just bullshitting and playing, but it was for such a terrible brief time, and then the punishment was beyond belief: even when we could see it, we could not believe it. For example, while I was writing this I learned that the person on whom the character Jerry Fabin is based killed himself. My friend on whom I based the character Ernie Luckman died before I began the novel. For a while I myself was one of these children playing in the street; I was, like the rest of them, trying to play instead of being grown up, and I was punished. I am on the list below, which is a list of those to whom this novel is dedicated, and what became of each.
Drug misuse is not a disease, it is a decision, like the decision to step out in front of a moving car. You would call that not a disease but an error in judgment. When a bunch of people begin to do it, it is a social error, a life-style. In this particular life-style the motto is "Be happy now because tomorrow you are dying," but the dying begins almost at once, and the happiness is a memory. It is, then, only a speeding up, an intensifying, of the ordinary human existence. It is not different from your life-style, it is only faster. It all takes place in days or weeks or months instead of years. "Take the cash and let the credit go," as Villon said in 1460. But that is a mistake if the cash is a penny and the credit a whole lifetime.
There is no moral in this novel; it is not bourgeois; it does not say they were wrong to play when they should have toiled; it just tells what the consequences were. In Greek drama they were beginning, as a society, to discover science, which means causal law. Here in this novel there is Nemesis: not fate, because any one of us could have chosen to stop playing in the street, but, as I narrate from the deepest part of my life and heart, a dreadful Nemesis for those who kept on playing. I myself, I am not a character in this novel; I am the novel. So, though, was our entire nation at this time. This novel is about more people than I knew personally. Some we all read about in the newspapers. It was, this sitting around with our buddies and bullshitting while making tape recordings, the bad decision of the decade, the sixties, both in and out of the establishment. And nature cracked down on us. We were forced to stop by things dreadful.
If there was any "sin," it was that these people wanted to keep on having a good time forever, and were punished for that, but, as I say, I feel that, if so, the punishment was far too great, and I prefer to think of it only in a Greek or morally neutral way, as mere science, as deterministic impartial cause-and-effect. I loved them all. Here is the list, to whom I dedicate my love:

To Gaylene deceased
To Ray deceased
To Francy permanent psychosis
To Kathy permanent brain damage
To Jim deceased
To Val massive permanent brain damage
To Nancy permanent psychosis
To Joanne permanent brain damage
To Maren deceased
To Nick deceased
To Terry deceased
To Dennis deceased
To Phil permanent pancreatic damage
To Sue permanent vascular damage
To Jerri permanent psychosis and vascular damage

. . . and so forth.
In Memoriam. These were comrades whom I had; there are no better. They remain in my mind, and the enemy will never be forgiven. The "enemy" was their mistake in playing. Let them all play again, in some other way, and let them be happy.

You can also start with les paradis artificiels (Artificial Paradises) from the french poet Charles Baudelaire... and all the subsequent litteracy.

I recommend also the movie Another Day in Paradise (1997) ( aka Paradise in the US ) and more than others ... Requiem for a Dream (2000) (adaptation of a 1978 novel by Hubert Selby Jr).

... as it was stated by others ... avoid drugs if you can !... W33d is recreative ? Yes sure it is ... but you will payback... and some paid the price more than others ...
 

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I'll admit, I tried some once. Hey, it was free - when are you going to get that opportunity often? Anyway, I didn't see the major deal with it all. I was with friends too, so it was a safe environment. Maybe it needs to be taken in major quantities to actually get some sort of effect - something I don't fancy doing.

I hear it effects people differently, though, so I guess I'm someone who's naturally more resilliant or something.
 

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yeeeeeeeeeah. Rat poison, hoooo boy. First off we are talking about WEED. If I may quote 21st century artisan Bob Saget: "Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction, man. You ever suck some dick for marijuana ? I didn't think so." You guys gotta get off these ancient preconceptions of RAT POISON AND DRIED CABBAGE and just buy a damn bag.
 

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yuyuyup said:
yeeeeeeeeeah. Rat poison, hoooo boy. First off we are talking about WEED. If I may quote 21st century artisan Bob Saget: "Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction, man. You ever suck some dick for marijuana ? I didn't think so." You guys gotta get off these ancient preconceptions of RAT POISON AND DRIED CABBAGE and just buy a damn bag.

Holy shit, that IS an addiction
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The Teej said:
yuyuyup said:
yeeeeeeeeeah. Rat poison, hoooo boy. First off we are talking about WEED. If I may quote 21st century artisan Bob Saget: "Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction, man. You ever suck some dick for marijuana ? I didn't think so." You guys gotta get off these ancient preconceptions of RAT POISON AND DRIED CABBAGE and just buy a damn bag.

Holy shit, that IS an addiction
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Funny, I heard about this student at another school who had an addiction to coke and couldn't pay the dealer so he offered to get an anal.
 

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The Teej said:
I'll admit, I tried some once. Hey, it was free - when are you going to get that opportunity often? Anyway, I didn't see the major deal with it all. I was with friends too, so it was a safe environment. Maybe it needs to be taken in major quantities to actually get some sort of effect - something I don't fancy doing.

I hear it effects people differently, though, so I guess I'm someone who's naturally more resilliant or something.


The first time I smoked I didn't really see the big deal either. Lots of people don't get high their first time

I think my problem was that I wasn't inhaling properly and the next time my friend told me to just take a normal deep breath and that did the trick.

I've had so many good times with cannabis but I realize I've had my time with it and probably won't smoke again unless it's a really special occasion.


It's also totally possible that weed just isn't for you
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benchma®k - I know what you mean now. I agree with you
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Gotta love the classic anti-marijuana propaganda. Its effect on societies view of cannabis continues to this day
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To be honest with you, I have asthma, so I can't smoke too much anyway. I probably wouldn't take weed regardless, it was just a case of capatilising on a situation when I took it.
 

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Protip: Chew weed to get a high, but no cancer-inducing smoke ;D

I would only try weed once or twice if a friend offered. I'd never actually actively seek weed.
 

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I chewed weed after I took it in a bong, I still felt no different. To be honest, the only thing I noticed was that weed tasted like spicy sesame seeds.
 

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martin88 said:
Do most people who touch illegal substance end up in uncontrollable addiction that destroys their life?
I partied like a fucking rockstar when I was a young pup and my life is not destroyed...doing quite well actually
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(I am drug free now, but mainly cause drugs affect your willy and I don't want a broken willy)
 

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Well done on staying clean WeaponX. Drug abuse is never a pretty thing.

(only some drugs effect your penis. weed is one that doesn't btw.)
 

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Nuh-uh, not true! I discovered that it made me suffer of precocious ejaculation!
Really, I start doin' it... And BAM, not even two hours later, out it comes. My wife's starting to call me "rabbit".
 

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