Well, I don't quite agree with that, but people do need to stop stretching it to mean, "I can do and say any terrible thing I want without consequences."
As someone already said, I doubt most of them are in good faith anyway.
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Governor Walz selected as VP for Dem ticket
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I am well aware he didn't like them, I was using him as an example of anti violence along with Gandhi - I thought that was clear and I wouldn't need to spell it outMLK Jr did not like riots, and I can guarantee you that no one you're arguing with here does. Riots by their nature are destructive and unpleasant. That is the intention behind them, to force a demand that has been ignored through other more peaceful means. MLK Jr also became much more understanding of political violence in his later years as he became fed up with the lack of any meaningful progress with peaceful attempts at civil disobedience. Saying these things on the matter-
America would never have abolished slavery without the violence of the Civil War, and likewise the government would never have passed the Civil Rights Acts without rioting. It was not the peaceful protests that convinced people to do the right thing, it was threat of being harmed or killed. Keep in mind that during this era, MLK Jr was not viewed by most of white society as a peaceful man committed to non-violence. He was absolutely associated with the violent riots that occurred and viewed as the person who incited them.
This isn't true for most who promote those claims, take it from firsthand experience living in a family where about half of my mother's family (my grandmother's side) are extremely racist and full of literal KKK supporters and outright neo nazis. Holocaust denial is bullshit artistry by design. They don't genuinely believe it didn't happen. They know it did, and they know it killed millions. Saying it didn't gives them an opportunity to sell their idea that jews, socialists, unions, foreigners LGBTQ+ etc (all of the various groups who the nazis attempted to wipe out of existence) were never actually victims and that Hitler wasn't as bad as everyone says. And to dehumanize and spit on the people who died.
Behind closed doors within their close-knit family and friends (and I mean very close-knit as they have to trust you enough to let on what they really think), deniers admit they're aware it's a lie and not a genuine belief. An uncle of mine (my grandmother's brother) actually served in the US Army during WW2 and fought against the nazis. He hates German and Japanese people. Not because of the atrocities they committed, but because they were "dirty foreigners". In truth, he saw these atrocities and didn't deny they happened, but agreed with them. He just also happened to believe that the people committing them should also be gassed and burned alongside them due to their ethnicity. And he came home and instilled these beliefs in his children and grandchildren. They then instilled these same beliefs in their children, and so on. The uncle also taught his kids how to lie in order to better propagate their beliefs in society. They all know what they're saying is bullshit, but they laugh about it because it's just another way to dehumanize the people they hate and recruit others.
The counter examples were Mandela and Malcolm X
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wow. In earlier post, I then remembered the LA riots from the Rodney King incident. To me, BOTH sides of the argument were fucking idiots, and yet valid at the same time. I coward as I lived near the flash point back then.
My point was that in MLK Jr's later years, he grew weary and skeptical that peaceful protests were going to get them anywhere. He softened considerably on his former hardline stance against violent riots largely because the threat of violence was proving to be the only thing that was moving the needle. Without riots and the fear of them, Civil Rights legislation would never have passed at the time. And quite possibly never even in the future given how insanely racist so many politicians (and the people who vote for them) still are today.
Incidentally, MLK Jr's wife and family have consistently stated that they believe the man who was charged and convicted of murdering him was innocent. They believe the true killer was a police officer. Would be the least surprising thing ever if true. And if true, it certainly won't ever be admitted because it'll be a nuclear bomb on the already volatile race relations in the US.
Gandhi's teachings are nice in theory (and even in practice there's an absolute truth to not being the one to START a fight), but are usually not realistic in the real world because he also viewed self defense as a negative. He believed that he could end WW2 by writing letters to Hitler massaging his ego, and he never made any sort of exceptions with his non violence views in dealing with him. Gandhi also didn't apply his own teachings to how he treated his family. He was reportedly abusive towards his wife and children. He was also a weirdo obsessed with sexual celibacy in a way that the most hardcore Christian cults act. Even including all of the abusive kinks that are usually associated with such behavior...
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...e-truth-about-gandhi-s-sex-life-b1912595.html
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there are consequences
the first amendment is that the government can't come down on you for saying something
your fellow man might be less accommodating
your boss might be less accommodating, too
Absolutely
The enforcement of thought and opinion shouldn't be the government, it should be the social sphere
Lmao guys good news it doesn't matter whether you think Walz handled the protests well or not because even Trump thought they were handled well, yall can relax now
https://x.com/yashar/status/1821282727204942171
https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502
So whats the next bogeyman we're gonna focus on?
https://x.com/yashar/status/1821282727204942171
https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502
So whats the next bogeyman we're gonna focus on?
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"uh uh uhhhh.....fuck...he didn't mean that he was only being nice. We all know what he actually felt"
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Between that and the donations to Harris, he's practically the Democratic ticket's biggest supporter! Very much "Trump criticizes Trump" material.
Maga might have actually cared about this, if they lived in reality.
In two days this has happened with Walz.
- He promoted a vulgar hoax about JD Vance
- He falsely claimed to have carried weapons into war, in a video the Harris-Walz campaign put out themselves
- It’s revealed he repeatedly and falsely claimed to be an Afghanistan war veteran
- Military community is raising hell about him leaving the National Guard right before Iraq deployment and new reporting shows Walz KNEW Iraq deployment was likely when he left
- His handling of the Minneapolis riots ($500 MILLION in damage) is coming under new scrutiny
- Hillary Clinton is promoting the "Tampon Tim" tagline as a good thing
I really do think they were better of with Shapiro as he give them PA for sure, but the antisemitic wing of the party would have no like that
- He promoted a vulgar hoax about JD Vance
- He falsely claimed to have carried weapons into war, in a video the Harris-Walz campaign put out themselves
- It’s revealed he repeatedly and falsely claimed to be an Afghanistan war veteran
- Military community is raising hell about him leaving the National Guard right before Iraq deployment and new reporting shows Walz KNEW Iraq deployment was likely when he left
- His handling of the Minneapolis riots ($500 MILLION in damage) is coming under new scrutiny
- Hillary Clinton is promoting the "Tampon Tim" tagline as a good thing
I really do think they were better of with Shapiro as he give them PA for sure, but the antisemitic wing of the party would have no like that
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You realize Kamala Harris' husband is Jewish, yes? And that he has not been the subject of any attacks from the Democratic party like Vance's wife has been from the Republican party?
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There is no shortage of Jewish people in leadership positions in the Democratic party, and nobody believes for a second that you and other Republicans wouldn't have attacked Shapiro for everything up to and including his religion. Harris doesn't need the fickle Republican confederate and nazi vote to win, she's already ahead in the polls. That's the advantage of being a big tent party.
Funny enough, Trump already had his "COVID moment" during this election cycle too. All he had to do after the shooting was stick with the "unity candidate" narrative up until the election, and he very well may have won. The media was fawning all over him. Instead, he couldn't keep up the facade for more than two days before falling back on his hateful and divisive rhetoric.
A video has surfaced of a veteran from 15 years ago calling out Walz over his stolen valor, and it is not the only video going around about it.
How in the world did Kamala and her team miss this? It is pretty bad. I’ll give her a 50/50 chance she may drop him, but I do think it is too late.
https://x.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1821350635716927856
How in the world did Kamala and her team miss this? It is pretty bad. I’ll give her a 50/50 chance she may drop him, but I do think it is too late.
https://x.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1821350635716927856
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Projection. Vance's service record is garbage, and Republicans wish he could be dropped from the ticket, but that would just make Trump look even weaker than he already does. Harris and Walz are on a campaigning spree while Trump is too old and tired to do more than one event a month.
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