If treating you like an adult is being an asshole, then yes. I gave you all the tools you need to succeed. The rest is up to you.Man, really being an asshole, arent you?
If treating you like an adult is being an asshole, then yes. I gave you all the tools you need to succeed. The rest is up to you.Man, really being an asshole, arent you?
I asked for evidence..... then you sent me a list, i said thanks. then you insulted me.If treating you like an adult is being an asshole, then yes. I gave you all the tools you need to succeed. The rest is up to you.
You mentioning it doesn't mean I support whatever you mention. That doesn't even make sense. Does public transportation contain zero plastics?I mentioned it, when you pointed out that all car manufacturing requires the use of a lot of plastics. Avoiding the transition to EVs doesn't reduce our use of them, so clearly you prefer another alternative.
Solar panels efficiency drops significantly in temperatures above 114 degrees and when they are covered in dust. Yet, almost all solar panels are installed in the hottest, dustiest parts of the country.Sure, I'll argue against that since it sounds like a number pulled straight from your ass. Next you're gonna tell me that solar panels instantly barbeque any/all birds that pass over them.
https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...ity-bills-alarm-europe-raise-fears-for-winterAnd they don't. Which is why European leaders have been saying for months now that it'll be a bit of a spike for a winter or two, but not nearly as bad as the reactionaries are claiming.
I'm in the habit of reading comments in a snarky way since that is mostly what I receive. Sorry about that. That's on me.I asked for evidence..... then you sent me a list, i said thanks. then you insulted me.
It would drastically reduce the amount of plastics required if not every individual felt they needed to own their own car, yes. And sure, you don't have to support a reduction in our use of plastics at all, but that would also be an admission that you don't give a shit and were just concern trolling over their use in EVs.You mentioning it doesn't mean I support whatever you mention. That doesn't even make sense. Does public transportation contain zero plastics?
And? Solar panels don't need to operate at 100% efficiency at all times if we have enough of them. The energy they provide is still far cheaper and still reduces our emissions a lot compared to oil/coal/natural gas.Solar panels efficiency drops significantly in temperatures above 114 degrees and when they are covered in dust. Yet, almost all solar panels are installed in the hottest, dustiest parts of the country.
That's more of a concern in countries without strong social safety nets. Most European countries will subsidize energy costs for individuals if they have to.So while poor Europeans will freeze to death this winter
Its ok.I'm in the habit of reading comments in a snarky way since that is mostly what I receive. Sorry about that. That's on me.
People are going to have to be forced to give up their cars by government. Of course, you are all for the government forcing people to give up their free-dumbs.It would drastically reduce the amount of plastics required if not every individual felt they needed to own their own car, yes. And sure, you don't have to support a reduction in our use of plastics at all, but that would also be an admission that you don't give a shit and were just concern trolling over their use in EVs.
They don't operate at 100% efficiency when in perfect working order. Average efficiency of current panels is 15-18%. High temperatures decrease efficiency by 10-25%. Dust reduces it even further. So your solar panels will be operating at less than 10% efficiency in desert locales. That's not sustainable.And? Solar panels don't need to operate at 100% efficiency at all times if we have enough of them. The energy they provide is still far cheaper and still reduces our emissions a lot compared to oil/coal/natural gas.
Great, give government more power over people. That seems to always be the answer. What are they gonna do when factories and businesses start shutting down and people stop working and paying taxes? You gonna subsidize big business's energy costs too?That's more of a concern in countries without strong social safety nets. Most European countries will subsidize energy costs for individuals if they have to.
The fuck are you on about now? We have a capitalist government, they'd never even gently suggest people giving up car culture in America. They'll force a transistion to all electric vehicles out of necessity, but that may still not be enough to combat climate change.People are going to have to be forced to give up their cars by government.
Pretty damn sure using the sun for energy is indeed sustainable. Your alternative of using every last drop of finite fossil fuels before transitioning to something else, is not.So your solar panels will be operating at less than 10% efficiency in desert locales. That's not sustainable.
Make up your goddamn mind. Are you worried people will freeze to death, or are you worried corporations might lose a few percentage points in profit this year?Great, give government more power over people. You gonna subsidize big business's energy costs too?
If you take out a loan for a degree that does not ensure you make enough money to pay it back, then you received a shitty degree. Blame the colleges for even offering it.
You want poor minorities with no college degree to pay for the degrees of rich privileged white leftists with a master's in gender studies. Before you call me a racist, make sure you understand your position on this topic, because it is obvious that you don't.
Keystone was being built until Brandon shut it down, along with oil/gas leases on federal lands.
What happens when people do not buy EV's? What's gonna be the government's next step? Are they gonna send the FBI to raid houses and steal cars?The fuck are you on about now? We have a capitalist government, they'd never even gently suggest people giving up car culture in America. They'll force a transistion to all electric vehicles out of necessity, but that may still not be enough to combat climate change.
You haven't been right about anything.So I was right, you don't give a shit about the amount of plastic that's required by car manufacturing. You just wanna argue for gas vehicles and against EVs. Stop with the concern troll bullshitting.
If you are pretty damn sure, back it up with evidence like I did. Do you think that rare earth minerals are not finite? There's a reason why they are called rare earth minerals. Can you take a guess on why that is?Pretty damn sure using the sun for energy is indeed sustainable. Your alternative of using every last drop of finite fossil fuels before transitioning to something else, is not.
People will freeze to death because companies will shut down and they won't be able to afford the exorbitant energy rates. It looks like I'm the only one in this exchange that cares about that.Make up your goddamn mind. Are you worried people will freeze to death, or are you worried corporations might lose a few percentage points in profit this year?
At some point they'll have no other option, gas vehicles will no longer be manufactured after 2035. Always gotta drag Republicans kicking and screaming into the future, like the toddlers they are.What happens when people do not buy EV's?
Do you believe that solar panels and wind turbines get consumed at the same rate as gasoline/natural gas?Do you think that rare earth minerals are not finite?
Most utility companies are publicly owned. The rest aren't in any danger of going under. Your concern trolling isn't even remotely valid in this scenario, so I'll take that as an admission you care more about corporate profit than the needs of the individual.People will freeze to death because companies will shut down and they won't be able to afford the exorbitant energy rates.
sure, nuclear is the cleanest, but it also takes the longest (30 year average construction time per plant) and is limited to certain geographical locations (you need functional rivers so drought prone areas are out). fuck France had to turn theirs down/off because the river water got too hot a couple weeks ago.It's the big scary anti-Nuclear folks. Nuclear is still the cleanest energy source we have in terms of scale.
Cubans still drive vehicles manufactured in the 1950's. Many people here in the US still drive classic cars. Learning how to be a car mechanic is not rocket science. Checkmate.At some point they'll have no other option, gas vehicles will no longer be manufactured after 2035. Always gotta drag Republicans kicking and screaming into the future, like the toddlers they are.
Solar panels and wind turbines do not use rare earth materials. Wind turbines use fiberglass. The rare earth materials are consumed from all the massive batteries that will need to be manufactured to support your green utopia and it's not a one time purchase.Do you believe that solar panels and wind turbines get consumed at the same rate as gasoline/natural gas?
You can take it any way you wish. It doesn't make it true. Not sure why you so pro-freezing to death, but then again, leftism has historically been a death cult everywhere it's been tried.Most utility companies are publicly owned. The rest aren't in any danger of going under. Your concern trolling isn't even remotely valid in this scenario, so I'll take that as an admission you care more about corporate profit than the needs of the individual.
Okay...you enjoy gas that's $20/gallon at that point, and I'll pretend to feel "owned."Many people here in the US still drive classic cars. Learning how to be a car mechanic is not rocket science. Checkmate.
My "green utopia" has a lot more lightrail/walkable cities and a lot fewer cars, EV or otherwise. So once again I'm proposing a solution while all you do is point out problems with everything except our current unsustainable system. Daddy must be the CEO of an oil company.Solar panels and wind turbines do not use rare earth materials. Wind turbines use fiberglass. The rare earth materials are consumed from all the massive batteries that will need to be manufactured to support your green utopia and it's not a one time purchase.
You're a fucking Republican dude. You've always been on the pro-freezing to death side of things when it comes to the poor. We have way more empty housing than we have homeless people, it's not and never has been an unsolvable problem so long as we ditch profit concerns. To you I'm sure that's the same thing as punching Jesus in the dick, though.Not sure why you so pro-freezing to death
Iron air, and grid sized flow batteries are starting to commercialize, so the need for rare earth elements is going to drop drastically. on top of that lithium is 90+% recyclable. i'm not super worried about battery storage in even the medium term.Solar panels and wind turbines do not use rare earth materials. Wind turbines use fiberglass. The rare earth materials are consumed from all the massive batteries that will need to be manufactured to support your green utopia and it's not a one time purchase.
The market will dictate which direction we go.Okay...you enjoy gas that's $20/gallon at that point, and I'll pretend to feel "owned."
Your solutions create nothing but problems. Now your solution requires redesigning every city and town.My "green utopia" has a lot more lightrail/walkable cities and a lot fewer cars, EV or otherwise. So once again I'm proposing a solution while all you do is point out problems with everything except our current unsustainable system. Daddy must be the CEO of an oil company.
You mad, bro? Because you are still arguing with emotion. You should calm down before you start affecting your health. Your gonna end up like Fetterman if you keep this up.You're a fucking Republican dude. You've always been on the pro-freezing to death side of things when it comes to the poor. We have way more empty housing than we have homeless people, it's not and never has been an unsolvable problem so long as we ditch profit concerns. To you I'm sure that's the same thing as punching Jesus in the dick, though.
From what little that I've just read about it, it seems promising. If it works, great. I'm all about technological breakthroughs. We just need to be able to gather energy without massacring 100's of thousands of birds or filling up landfills with old windmills or filling up every square inch of uninhabitable land with solar panels that achieve 10% efficiency.Iron air, and grid sized flow batteries are starting to commercialize, so the need for rare earth elements is going to drop drastically. on top of that lithium is 90+% recyclable. i'm not super worried about battery storage in even the medium term.
Guess EVs win then, because every single car manufacturer is making more and more of them each year. It's not like gas vehicles do any one particular thing better, and I say that as someone who very much likes his current (fuel efficient) gas vehicle.The market will dictate which direction we go.
Which is already something we do anyway with constantly-expanding highways and roadways. Every summer is a clusterfuck of construction work.Your solutions create nothing but problems. Now your solution requires redesigning every city and town.
Why would I win a political race in PA if I'm not even running? Back on topic, though: you obviously don't understand how subsidizing costs work if you think any company would "go out of business" should the government help out with energy bills. The money gets paid either way. Europeans have nothing to worry about, because they don't have assholes like you arguing in favor of letting them freeze to appease the stock market.Your gonna end up like Fetterman if you keep this up.
EV's can't haul loads. It's already been compared. EV's are inferior.Guess EVs win then, because every single car manufacturer is making more and more of them each year. It's not like gas vehicles do any one particular thing better, and I say that as someone who very much likes his current (fuel efficient) gas vehicle.
What you are calling for is a lot more complicated than expanding highways.Which is already something we do anyway with constantly-expanding highways and roadways. Every summer is a clusterfuck of construction work.
You know what I mean. Don't play coy.Why would I win a political race in PA if I'm not even running? Back on topic, though: you obviously don't understand how subsidizing costs work if you think any company would "go out of business" should the government help out with energy bills. The money gets paid either way. Europeans have nothing to worry about, because they don't have assholes like you arguing in favor of letting them freeze to appease the stock market.
Would being able to run your gas power car be better than an EV?Guess EVs win then, because every single car manufacturer is making more and more of them each year. It's not like gas vehicles do any one particular thing better, and I say that as someone who very much likes his current (fuel efficient) gas vehicle.