How is this different than what the Taliban does in Afghanistan? THIS is the American Taliban in action

[Xzi]

Guns at least level the playing field for women, unless it is your intent for them to be at a disadvantage.

You're absolutely correct about that, but it's still a sad state of affairs when the right to bear arms takes precedent over the right to bodily autonomy. Women shouldn't need to defend their choices with bullets.

 

[Hanafuda]

Lol, and am I meant to be impressed that people in your state are now back to being beholden to 19th century law?

"Trigger laws" implies they were passed in anticipation of Roe being reversed, like a set trap. This is not accurate, at least not as to one State and probably others. Instead, archaic statutes went back into effect because Democrats passed up the opportunity to ever solidify legal abortion into law, or at least repeal laws criminalizing it ffs. They had the chance in my State for decades. The US Congress, with Democrats running both Houses, has had its chances as well.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

"USA is becoming a Taliban" is a hyperbole, but it is indeed marching towards medieval customs. Taliban already got there, that is the parallel.

I still believe that this conservative movement is just a wave and will fade out, that's why I believe that USA will not reach nothing near of Taliban or Saudi Arabia levels of conservativeness (IDK if it is a word).
If this thing is not a wave, but it is a long lasting movement, than USA is fucked, the western world is fucked.

 

[TraderPatTX]

You're absolutely correct about that, but it's still a sad state of affairs when the right to bear arms takes precedent over the right to bodily autonomy. Women shouldn't need to defend their choices with bullets.

There will always be bad people out there looking to take advantage of smaller, weaker people than themselves. Unfortunately, that is part of human nature. It's also a sad state of affairs that I have to defend my family and my home from intruders. I'd be failing in my responsibilities if I didn't. It is our job as men to be protectors of our loved ones. Some of us take it seriously. Others outsource it to the police before finding out that they can never get there in time.

 

[Xzi]

"Trigger laws" implies they were passed in anticipation of Roe being reversed, like a set trap. This is not accurate, at least not as to one State and probably others. Instead, archaic statutes went back into effect because Democrats passed up the opportunity to ever solidify legal abortion into law, or at least repeal laws criminalizing it ffs. They had the chance in my State for decades. The US Congress, with Democrats running both Houses, has had its chances as well.

What? Democrats have their biggest majority in the House and Senate right now that they have for decades, and it's still not enough to codify Roe. Let's stop pretending like the Republican minority played by the rules to get to where we are right now, shall we? One SCOTUS seat was stolen, several justices would've had a criminal record without all the advantages that they had in life, and none of them have any interest in maintaining democracy in this country. If Biden wasn't a useless corporate centrist, he would've already packed the court.

 

[TraderPatTX]

What? Democrats have their biggest majority in the House and Senate right now that they have for decades, and it's still not enough to codify Roe. Let's stop pretending like the Republican minority played by the rules to get to where we are right now, shall we? One SCOTUS seat was stolen, several justices would've had a criminal record without all the advantages that they had in life, and none of them have any interest in maintaining democracy in this country. If Biden wasn't a useless corporate centrist, he would've already packed the court.

Obama had 60 Democrat Senators from 2009-2010. No Supreme Court seat was stolen. There weren't enough votes for Garland to be confirmed. Not sure about possible criminal records unless you are talking about the fake accusations against Kavanaugh. Once again we are a republic, not a democracy. Please for the love of God, learn the damn difference. And yes, packing the court. When you can't win by the current rules that have been standing for over 100 years, change them.

Biden a centrist? LOL!!!! He's a puppet. He is whatever his puppetmasters want him to be.

 

[Xzi]

When you can't win by the current rules that have been standing for over 100 years, change them.

The current rules allow for increasing the size of the court.

Biden a centrist? LOL!!!! He's a puppet. He is whatever his puppetmasters want him to be.

Correct, his corporate puppetmasters. Trump also answers to a different set of corporate puppetmasters, the same ones all the conservative SCROTUS justices do for that matter.

 

[TraderPatTX]

The current rules allow for increasing the size of the court.


Correct, his corporate puppetmasters. Trump also answers to a different set of corporate puppetmasters, the same ones all the conservative SCROTUS justices do for that matter.

I doubt you'd be talking about packing the court if Trump was still in office. Just admit it. You guys are sore losers.

Who are these puppetmasters that Trump answered to? I seem to remember he was getting attacked by everybody in DC. It's one of the reasons why people like him, because everybody in DC, the media, academia, Hollywood, corporate boards, and white, European leaders hated him. He exposed them all and they didn't like that.

 

[Xzi]

I doubt you'd be talking about packing the court if Trump was still in office. Just admit it. You guys are sore losers.

Lmao he did pack the court with theocratic fascists, which is why we're having this discussion to begin with. And "sore losers," what are you, twelve? This is about fundamental human rights and liberties, and you're gloating about those being stripped away. Get fucked.

Who are these puppetmasters that Trump answered to?

Every oil and gun corporation, for starters. Not to mention a number of foreign donors.

It's one of the reasons why people like him, because everybody in DC, the media, academia, Hollywood, corporate boards, and white, European leaders hated him. He exposed them all and they didn't like that.

He buddied up to a bunch of dictators and authoritarian oligarchs. He didn't expose anybody but himself, and his cultists are still falling for the grift anyway.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Lmao he did pack the court with theocratic fascists, which is why we're having this discussion to begin with. And "sore losers," what are you, twelve? This is about fundamental human rights and liberties, and you're gloating about those being stripped away. Get fucked.


Every oil and gun corporation, for starters. Not to mention a number of foreign donors.


He buddied up to a bunch of dictators and authoritarian oligarchs. He didn't expose anybody but himself, and his cultists are still falling for the grift anyway.

Filling empty seats is not packing the court. By that logic, Obama packed the court with communists. See how silly that argument sounds now? Once again, abortion cannot be a human right if a human dies in the process. Suck it.

The left is beholden to tech companies, pharma companies, academia, public sector unions, corporations such as Disney, Planned Parenthood, the insurance companies, etc. You still want to play this game? Foreign donors, lol!!! You gotta show your work on that one, slugger.

Making peace with dictators is much better than trying to start wars with them. Wars that you will never be sent to. Trust me, it's not fun and should be avoided.

It's ironic that the people screaming that they can't sacrifice babies call other people a cult. You people are like the Aztecs.

Are the insults over? I'd like to get back to a civil conversation. I didn't mean to trigger you so bad.

 

[SRKTiberious]

You people are like the Aztecs.

No, they're worse than the Aztecs. They're Canaanites and Edomites.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

You think representatives doing what the people voted for them to do is being just like the Taliban. Nobody should take anything you say seriously.

Reminder that those representives are not representive of people due to gerrymandering. In which the Republican party, who wanted this decision for decades, finally got it through undemocratic means. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. Won the electoral collage. As a result, and a result of the senate playing favorites. Trump packed the court with 3 conservitive justices. I already had one person say their politics don't matter. But it does since Republicans tend to game the system even harder. And refusing to fix the undemocratic back doors such as gerrymandering.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Reminder that those representives are not representive of people due to gerrymandering. In which the Republican party, who wanted this decision for decades, finally got it through undemocratic means. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. Won the electoral collage. As a result, and a result of the senate playing favorites. Trump packed the court with 3 conservitive justices. I already had one person say their politics don't matter. But it does since Republicans tend to game the system even harder. And refusing to fix the undemocratic back doors such as gerrymandering.

There is a difference between packing the court, which is adding additional seats, and filling open seats. Go learn the difference. Odd that the only congressional maps getting shot down are those drawn by Democrats in blue states by left leaning courts. It's like you people don't even read or understand what is going on around you. You just spout talking points which make no sense.