Wait, are you saying that wearing mask and social distancing didn't work? If so, then why are we even following the rule?
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They work, but a vaccine works much better than masks, for example.
In addition, it's oddly the people who are anti-mask who are also anti-vaccine, even though the latter would end the former. It's like when people who are anti-choice are also anti-contraception.
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That makes sense. I really hope there is no unforeseen long term effect and does get approve by the FDA really soon, but that is probably wishful thinking on my part. If people sees that the FDA approve of it, then I can see even more people would be lining up for the vaccination.
Question, is the vaccination free or is it covered by health insurance?
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Just saw your edit, it seems like it. But don't worry, I'm not anti-mask.
Also a little google search indicates that the vaccine should be free.
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Health insurance in the United States is required to cover preventative care under Obamacare, and that includes vaccinations.
The FDA's emergency authorization includes rigorous safety testing. A person should not wait to get vaccinated if they are able to get vaccinated.
Yes emergency authorizations also means less data to work with and thus the reason for unapproval, the long term effect hasn't been tested as "a lot of time" is needed for that.
I do genuinely do see your points, however I also see others points as well. In a perfect world we wouldn't need vaccine because it would be virus free or we have a cure-all medicine that protects us from these outbreaks. However we don't live in a perfect world.
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Funnily enough, RNA vaccination might be a way to that 'perfect world'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine
Can be adopted to any illness (theoretically), and that very fast.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Benghazi, Obamacare (you can keep your doctor, your premiums won't explode into the stratosphere, we won't waste your money by hiring a company to design healthcare.gov (THAT COST THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER 1.7 BILLION DOLLARS) that never created a website before), IRS being directed to target conservative groups, authorizing the Dept. of Justice to secretly collect the telephone records for reporters and editors of the AP, Keystone pipeline, illegal drone program that killed hundreds if not thousands of innocent men, women and children, PRISM, Fast and Furious... supporting a terrorist organization: https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-investigation-finds-obama-admin-201648458.html
FBI spying: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...y-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration
So, could I get your response to:
- The information on Hunter Biden's laptop that is really damning
- Joe Biden, ON VIDEO, bragging about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for looking into the corruption him and his son were involved with regarding Burisma
- Speaking of Hunter Biden, care to offer an opinion as to why he (a guy with ZERO knowledge of the energy sector) was paid all that cash to sit on the board of Burisma? Maybe they liked his haircut I guess?!
The things you listed largely a.) Aren't scandals, and/or b.) Are covered on Obama's Wikipedia page.
I don't remember whom I responded to before about it, but I don't want to continue this conversation in this thread. Make or new thread or send me a PM, because we are off-topic.
Don't trust the government: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy..._100_confirmed_conspiracies_from_the_last_75/
I see you continue to dodge my questions about the Biden stuff. (Not shocked though as most liberal, when faced with overwhelming data that shows them the ignorance and hypocrisy of their views, always chose to bury their heads in the sand.)
To get back on topic, here's some more COVID news for you: (along with my link in the previous message) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/4...y-given-regeneron-antibodies-instead-vaccines
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I'm not interested in taking each fake scandal one at a time, for reasons I already stated. I will say, for example, that Obamacare is both covered on the Wikipedia page, and it's not a scandal by any definition of the word. Your memes are wholly unconvincing.
Nanites probably gets you there faster or closer.Funnily enough, RNA vaccination might be a way to that 'perfect world'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine
Can be adopted to any illness (theoretically), and that very fast.
I see you are STILL ignoring my questions about Hunter Biden's laptop/Bursima. Open wide, here comes some more inconvenient facts: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...siness_deals_with_the_spy_chief_of_china.html
C'mon, you liberals went all in on the 'Trump/Russia' fantasy yet here we have HARD EVIDENCE of the Biden crime syndicate on full display and surprise surprise, the liberal media doesn't mention it. Kind of weird eh? Almost like the entire lügenpresse is left leaning and are a bunch of hypocrites.
And why do you keep repeating the lie about Obamacare not being a scandal and how it's covered on his wiki page? There are NO mentions of the failure of Obamacare on his wiki page, NONE! And newsflash, it WAS a scandal. He lied about your premiums not exploding, no mentions of the hundreds of thousands of doctors refusing patients with Obamacare because of the utterly broken payment system and when healthcare.gov launched, it fell on its' face at go time. ANOTHER company had to be brought in to fix it all to the tune of 1.7 BILLION dollars total! 1.7 BILLION DOLLARS!!! I can see why you don't think that's a scandal. You're a liberal and liberals refuse to accept reality.
Back to COVID news: https://www.the-sun.com/news/1996741/gp-refuse-covid-vaccine-before-christmas/
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https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarm...h-care-workers-are-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/
Hmmm...I wonder why these highly trained medical professionals are refusing the COVID vaccine? Guess they are all just crazy conspiracy theorists eh? Or maybe they don't have time to take the vaccine with all the tiktok videos they're making. Or maybe, just maybe, they KNOW their hospitals aren't being overrun with COVID deaths and they don't want a mystery substance (with God knows what side effects down the road) shot into their body?
I know you'll dodge this pointed question as well but what's your thoughts on these medical folks refusing the vaccine? Only crazy paranoid types would refuse a completely safe vaccine, right? And if they're crazy and paranoid, maybe the governments should pull their medical license because we don't want crazy people working in the medical profession, right? I'm sure the government and big pharma has all of our best interests at heart, right?
There is no evidence of a Biden crime syndicate, and Obamacare was demonstrated to have actually slowed the increase in premium costs.
Health care professionals should be vaccinated if they can do so. There are a lot of reasons why some people don't want to be vaccinated, and they're mostly bad reasons. The reasons I'm seeing cited for the vast majority of vaccine refusals among healthcare workers, as well as the general public, are related to politics. That doesn't mean the vaccine isn't safe, and it doesn't mean people shouldn't be vaccinated as soon as they are physically able to do so.
No evidence of Biden corruption.... HAHAHAHA, my goodness that is rich! Biden, ON VIDEO, telling the press that he was withholding money from Ukraine until the prosecutor that was investigating Hunter's ties to Burisma was fired. You seriously OK with that? I can see now that you don't take any of this seriously and are just trolling me. Since it's now established that you're a complete hypocrite, we can focus on COVID.
Why don't you tell all these healthcare professionals (I'm assuming you know more than they do) that the COVID vaccine is safe and they should take it as soon as they are physically able to do so.
That's not what happened.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...raine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
Happily.
Sir, I realize this is off-topic, but please realize that the Affordable Health Care Act (not sure 'Obamacare' is a serious term) was not only the establishment of a Health Insurance industry Trust, but also bloated with pork. I have had this discussion with you before; legislators that impose a health care system upon the public should also be required to live under the same healthcare system. This would have certainly prevented a healthcare legislation founded on corporate Trust.
A great experiment for US healthcare would be to see it run under a system of protected free enterprise, (something we have not tried yet). Initially, this would be a state-level implementation of such a system, and we would analyze the results over a period of time. The government's central role in this system would be to promote fair competition within the healthcare system, thereby lowering the cost and increasing the quality of care.
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There's a lot about Obamacare I don't like, and the fact that we don't have Medicare for All is embarrassing, but my point was it did slow the increase in premiums, it did drastically increase coverage, and it wasn't scandalous. A person is free to dislike Obamacare, but that doesn't make it a scandal.
Here's my application to be a willfully, ignorant, hypocrite..... like you. (Let me know if I'm accepted into your club with the following declarations):
- There is not a single bit of video evidence, ANYWHERE, that any BLM/fascist protest ever turned violent and resulted in a store being looted or burned to the ground.
- There is not a single bit of evidence that any woman has ever accused a democratic leader of sexual misconduct.
- Trump never said anything about grabbing a woman's vagina.
- We didn't invade Iraq on bogus intelligence.
- No vaccine has ever harmed a single person in recorded history.
- The government would never ever engage in a smear campaign against someone to stifle the truth from getting out.
- No elements within the government would ever plan a false flag terrorist event, on American soil, with the intention of blaming another country.
- There is not a single bit of proof that an autonomous zone was set up in any US city by fascist thugs.
- The majority of liberal/democratic cities are complete utopias.
- Nobody is fleeing liberal/democratic cities, in droves, due to being taxed to death.
- Snopes is 100% correct all the time.
- The damning evidence on Hunter Biden's laptop simply doesn't exist because it's not mentioned in the media, or on The View.
Am I supposed to disagree with the things on your list, or am I supposed to agree with the things on the list? It's kind of a mess. That was a rhetorical question though. Please get back on topic, make another thread, or send me a PM.
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