[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[chrisrlink]

im so glad polling places arn't being targets of alt right violence that was my main fear that neo nazi's would litterally shoot up polling locations to cripple voting and instill fear

 

[crimpshrine]

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I can play the same game... and this is a newer post. This post was made 17 hours ago. yours was made 18 hours ago. as of the time of writing this.
So...
I wonder who's right?

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Oh and regarding the New york post. The guy who wrote the article , didn't even want his name on it, since the information was already sketchy. And multiple people stated that the article seemed incorrect. So... If even they internally where questioning it, you likely should too.

CURRENT DNI John Ratcliffe confirmed this is NOT connected to Russian disinformation effort. That there is no intelligence to support any claims of that nature. So 50 former intelligence officers commenting on a gut feeling is just a guess.

Signatures have been compared from the form at the computer place.

People on the email chains have confirmed they received the same message as in the evidence of his drive.

Secret service has confirmed that travel plans match places and times traveled listed in the emails.

Neither Joe, Hunter, or his campaign have said the data is invalid. Or that it is NOT his data/laptop.


Amazing how in comparison people will hang trump out to dry on anonymous sources even when you have real people saying they were there and it never happened.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

I disagree

Complete garbage statistics. Do you even realize how many different scenarios are unaccounted for? Just for starters, there's nothing saying how many pro-mask people wearing masks, were infected by anti-mask people who had COVID. The masks are more to prevent a person that already has it from spreading it, not the other way around. That's why both masks AND social distancing are important.

im so glad polling places arn't being targets of alt right violence that was my main fear that neo nazi's would litterally shoot up polling locations to cripple voting and instill fear

Close enough. Just like the rest of the asshats. Completely unwilling and unable to follow simple rules. Voter intimidation much? Glad he's being disciplined. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article246576948.html

 

[Doran754]

Garbage leader who can't handle foreign policy. He's been nominated for the nobel peace prize (not that it means much after Obama dropped thousands of bombs and still got nominated)

First US president to not start any new wars. Brought peace in the middle east, dismantled ISIS. You're just straight up lying and your garbage opinion is worthless. Treat your TDS and come back with a worthy opinion.

"Trump beats cancer" @monkeyman4412 "Trump attacks another helpless foreign body"

It's so damn boring reading the straight out lies you put out, depicting them as fact. I highly doubt Isreal thinks hes a garbage leader. Who cares about peace though when theres looting and murdering to be done.

 

[Hanafuda]

I wonder who's right?
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It's not a question, at least where the two Major Garrett tweets are concerned, of "who's right." He's reporting news. He reports that the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, and the FBI all concur this is not "Russian disinformation." Then he reports that 50 people who used to be employees of one intelligence agency or another say it has "all the classic earmarks", even though they're not in the game anymore and don't have access. But they said it, so he reported it. (Besides, which is the more definitive statement?)

 

[Deleted member 326676]

You have proven nothing is untrue. The original post you responded to was that they pulled the foreign policy topic from the final debate.

Here is the actual letter that was sent to the commission on presidential debates regarding that:

https://twitter.com/BillStepien/status/1318269143884435456?s=20

I don't see a link showing the final debate topics before last Wed.

And I don't see any link to the Commission on Residential Debates saying it is untrue either.

You have a funny way of "getting me" LOL

And the fact that Bidens campaign said it was untrue make it likely more true. Since they have no issues covering for Biden and his corruption ties uncovered this past week. That would be small potatoes in comparison. And of course they would pull the foreign policy topic from the debate.

That letter is a conspiracy theory allegation with no corroborating evidence from the moderator, the Biden camp, Presidential Debates Commission, or elsewhere. The conspiracy alleges that the nonpartisan debates commission rejected the moderator's right to choose the topics, but then gave them back to the moderator at the last moment in an effort to hurt Trump. Yeah, right.

You've repeatedly claimed that an alternate set of debate topics exist, but you allege that because I can't find them that it must be true? Similarly, you've alleged that Biden's campaign denying the conspiracy theory "made it likely more true."

Great! Now we can add backwards reasoning to your long list of fallacies and conspiracy theory peddling. The onus isn't on me to find your imaginary debate topics list; I've already corroborated Lacius' argument that the "moderators choose the questions." Chris Wallace chose the topics for the first debate and Kirsten Welker chose the topics for the third debate. These are established facts. Wild allegations involving conspiracy against one of the candidates with no corroborating evidence does not a fact make.

Case closed.

 

[crimpshrine]

That letter is a conspiracy theory allegation with no corroborating evidence from the moderator, the Biden camp, Presidential Debates Commission, or elsewhere. The conspiracy alleges that the nonpartisan debates commission rejected the moderator's right to choose the topics, but then gave them back to the moderator at the last moment in an effort to hurt Trump. Yeah, right.

You've repeatedly claimed that an alternate set of debate topics exist, but you allege that because I can't find them that it must be true? Similarly, you've alleged that Biden's campaign denying the conspiracy theory "made it likely more true."

Great! Now we can add backwards reasoning to your long list of fallacies and conspiracy theory peddling. The onus isn't on me to find your imaginary debate topics list; I've already corroborated Lacius' argument that the "moderators choose the questions." Chris Wallace chose the topics for the first debate and Kirsten Welker chose the topics for the third debate. These are established facts. Wild allegations involving conspiracy against one of the candidates with no corroborating evidence does not a fact make.

Case closed.

You can close whatever case you want, you think I care what you believe?

I know what is real.

And that is:

I don't see any announcment showing the final debate topics before last Wed.

And I don't see any release from Commission on Residential Debates saying it is untrue either. (What Trumps campaign has come out against)

And given all the lies and adjustments for poor old Joe, it fits within everything else. Also it fits within past history for the last debate.

You can ignore reality, I don't care Lum.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

Are all the demented leftists in this thread excited for the civil war? In the front yard of every house I've driven by with a truck in the driveway there's a Trump sign. If the only people who fought on the right side (get it, the right side?) were truck owners, they would demolish the left with ease....and that's only like 1/10th the population of Trump voters LOL.

 

[crimpshrine]

I heard there was more coming, even bigger than what has been uncovered/revealed so far.

So where does that leave us at this point: (focusing more on the Joe related stuff, obviously Hunter has his own issues with the pictures and text/emails that were turned over to the FBI allegedly showing him exposing himself to underage girls)

CURRENT DNI John Ratcliffe confirmed this is NOT connected to Russian disinformation effort. That there is no intelligence to support any claims of that nature. No matter what arm chair intelligence officers claim.

Signatures have been compared from the form at the computer place. And they match enough to suggest/indicate it was Hunter who signed.

Hunter Biden's Attorney has attempted to retrieve the hard drive from the computer store owner.

People on the email chains have confirmed they received the same message as in the evidence of his drive.

Secret service has confirmed that travel plans match places and times traveled listed in the emails.

Neither Joe, Hunter, or his campaign have said the data is invalid. Or that it is NOT his data/laptop.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

This is the way intelligence agencies like the FBI have worked from day one, through blackmail. Every other nation is running similar operations with the Mossad and it's Epstein blackmail rings being the most obvious example.

Why do you think in US presidential elections like the one Ron Paul ran in every single candidate on stage except Ron Paul mentioned absolutely nothing about America once and just talked about what they're going to do for Israel the entire time?

Why do you think the US fights wars in the Middle East for decades that do absolutely nothing to benefit America and only benefit Israel causing tons of Americans to die and the US to financially implode? Because they're all scumbag puppets placed there by the CFR and blackmailed by Epstein and his Zionist, dual-citizen spy ring.

Now it's wide out in the open that the Bidens sold out the entire country for a few tens of millions making them puppets to the foreign nation of China in the process. Same deal. All of these people are enemy traitors committing treason. Anyone remember what the penalty for treason is?

 

[omgcat]

Now it's wide out in the open that the Bidens sold out the entire country for a few tens of millions making them puppets to the foreign nation of China in the process. Same deal. All of these people are enemy traitors committing treason. Anyone remember what the penalty for treason is?

so trump is a traitor that also deserves the punishment that goes with it?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...china-bank-account-nearly-200000-taxes-report

people get their panties in a twist about some mythical hunter biden nonsense when we have actual proof of nepotism with OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT.

like remember ivanka's trademark requests that were fast-tracked because of the presidents position, as well as the now known secret chinese bank accounts?

but, in the end, average voters don't care about the Hunter Biden nonsense because trump has lied so many times in the past, people straight up don't trust him or anything related to him.

republicans are killing their own chances at re-election because trump is focusing 100% on his opponent instead of laying out ANY policy. where is the health plan? what ever happened to infrastructure week?

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

Stupid post. Anyone that's a billionaire has bank accounts all over the world. Trump having a Chinese bank account means nothing unless you have some type of evidence the money are bribes from China - which just about nobody believes China is bribing Trump, especially with his foreign policy.

So your story is the laughable plot that Trump has some of his own money in a foreign bank account? WOOPTY DOO. As for Trump not paying taxes, it's called....drumroll....a writeoff for previous losses in real estate which any adult (aka not you) utilizes to avoid losing further money.

Nothing but constant lies and BS from you people. The only real corruption that's obvious involving Trump is his constant worshipping of Israel and trying to focus US foreign policy entirely around this useless nation that means absolutely nothing to America indicating he might be blackmailed by the Mossad in some manner.

Or AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee being the most powerful lobby in Washington (why is a foreign nation the most powerful lobby in America? Sounds a little suspicious, doesn't it?) causes all US politicians to be nothing more than puppets to a foreign nation. Why is it that you leftists do NOT discuss REAL topics like this at all?

 

[FAST6191]

"Brought peace in the middle east, dismantled ISIS"

That remains to be seen. There have been peaceful periods before but they are still primed for a lot more -- Egypt vs Sudan will probably go do something if the whole dam thing keeps up, Iran still probably gets to implode at some point, most lines on the map still reflect nothing like geography or tribal lands, Pakistan (and various other Stans) have some serious internal strife brewing, Saudi is slowly become less of a totalitarian nightmare but still a nightmare and there will probably be something interesting between the remaining hardline types and the marginally more modernised types, Turkey will probably make a move or two and you still have the Kurds caught up in the middle of all that, Syria also is not finished and Iraq is a stalemate at best.
Still some decent efforts I guess, more than I expected. Any kind of lasting peace... probably not in our lifetimes.

As far as ISIS was that not fit to implode anyway? A distributed hardline religious movement that failed to make any real gains on land... yeah.

im so glad polling places arn't being targets of alt right violence that was my main fear that neo nazi's would litterally shoot up polling locations to cripple voting and instill fear

If by alt right you mean far right (there are differences) then have they done anything of note in years? There are like 5 of them and they don't do anything.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

where is the health plan?

The health plan is that communism and socialism are nothing more than banker schemes to centralize all wealth and power so they can steal it all then murder everyone like the Bolsheviks killed 20+ million Whites and Christians in Russia. So your "health plan" is go get a job then you can go to a doctor instead of pretending anyone wants to be a part of your murder dystopia.

 

[Lacius]

The health plan is that communism and socialism are nothing more than banker schemes to centralize all wealth and power so they can steal it all then murder everyone like the Bolsheviks killed 20+ million Whites and Christians in Russia. So your "health plan" is go get a job then you can go to a doctor instead of pretending anyone wants to be a part of your murder dystopia.

For the record, this isn't a health plan.

 

[chrisrlink]

hate biting my tongue cause the SS i cant wait to crack trump prison jokes once he's out

 

[raphamotta]

@Lacius I got the quiz and here my results. I'm not from US so whsts this women's equality party?

 

[Lacius]

@Lacius I got the quiz and here my results. I'm not from US so whsts this women's equality party?
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IMO, ignore anything that isn't Democratic, Republican, or Libertarian.

 

[raphamotta]

IMO, ignore anything that isn't Democratic, Republican, or Libertarian.

OK.. But you put Green party in the poll

 

[crimpshrine]

This is the way intelligence agencies like the FBI have worked from day one, through blackmail. Every other nation is running similar operations with the Mossad and it's Epstein blackmail rings being the most obvious example.

Why do you think in US presidential elections like the one Ron Paul ran in every single candidate on stage except Ron Paul mentioned absolutely nothing about America once and just talked about what they're going to do for Israel the entire time?

Why do you think the US fights wars in the Middle East for decades that do absolutely nothing to benefit America and only benefit Israel causing tons of Americans to die and the US to financially implode? Because they're all scumbag puppets placed there by the CFR and blackmailed by Epstein and his Zionist, dual-citizen spy ring.

Now it's wide out in the open that the Bidens sold out the entire country for a few tens of millions making them puppets to the foreign nation of China in the process. Same deal. All of these people are enemy traitors committing treason. Anyone remember what the penalty for treason is?

I wondered if the reason the FBI that picked Hunters laptop up in 2019 had not said anything yet, was for future leverage/blackmail.

That or I figured it got destroyed. We still don't know if the data is accessible on the drive in the laptop, so that is still a possibility.

The computer guy from that store obviously ruined that option at this point if it was the case.