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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. LumInvader

    LumInvader GBAtemp Advanced Fan
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    Lawyers at firm used by Trump donate $90,000 to Biden, $50 to president
    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2752H1
     
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    Oh no! Biden is now the preferred candidate of both too weak to exist soy men AND crooked lawyers!
     
  3. gregory-samba

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    So I've had a week or so to shrug off the bullying I've gotten in this and other threads on this site. Not much has happened during that time regarding the 2020 Presidential Election. It seems some damning files have been found on a laptop that Hunter Biden owned, though I'm not sure why there's confusion over the quid pro quo between Joe Biden and Ukraine. If you have a short memory you might need to be reminded of the fact that Joe Biden did an interview on TV bragging about how he used his political position and power to negotiate a job for his son Hunter. I'm not sure why everyone has forgotten about this now as there's no doubt that Joe was guilty of quid pro quo, he freaking bragged about it.

    I also see the Liberals are trying to downplay or distract from the circumstances as you have some of them saying the documents are fabricated by Russians then morons like Adam Schiff who claim they were not fabricated by Russians, but by China. With all the great renegotiating of trade deals that Trump has been doing that are actually helping the USA as opposed to the old ones that existed that allowed for us to get bad deals I don't see why anyone would think China is behind the laptop as China is no fan of Trump. China isn't trying to help Trump stay in power as that's one of the last things they'd want to do. I also see the normal "Russian did it" dribble, but there's no proof of that and the FBI and other agencies have also found no proof of that. Not that it matters, Biden is on TV admitting to his crimes.

    So other than the emails that outline to events of the already known quid pro quo I don't see any other major developments have taken place since I voted. I also see that no one on the Left was able to answer my previous questions regarding them listing at least 1 thing Trump has done that they agree with and also see that MonkeyDude or whatever didn't answer my question regarding if he would support a global government. I guess I'll never see anyone with TDS say anything good about Trump ...

    At any rate the early voting has started in many States so if you would like to see things change in a direction you desire it would probably be a good idea to go vote. So I'll just leave this image to remind people of what they should be doing.

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    Don't worry as I voted for who I wanted to vote for. I don't take directions from anyone or any organization. I vote for who I think is best for the job. No straight ticket here, but if I wanted to I'd vote a straight ticket regardless of what anyone else tells me to do. I'm also not going to tell you who to vote for or think less of you for voting for who you want to vote for. That would be pretty immature and childish.
     
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  4. LumInvader

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    Biden clearly needs to improve his outreach to the coveted insecure edgelord demographic.
     
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    Sell me on him over Trump then.

    From where I sit they are both self serving and corrupt through and through, though that is bog standard politician (nice is better but predictable you can work with). I waver for each between whether they are more concerned with legacy (those that would not be surprising to see have their ticker go pop tomorrow seem to have that as a problem) or lining pockets. Neither are great at economics, neither will do much for science, neither have done much in the way of military reform, I don't particularly trust either to guard rights (speech, weapons, police/law... all have a demonstrably mediocre at best track record and fundamental misunderstandings at worst) and neither do much in the way of foreign relations at at fairly pivotal time in world history. Even by the piss weak standards of US presidential power (even if I were to believe Mr Trump was a tyrant the results he achieved are utterly awful compared to where we see big boy tyranny in the middle east, Africa and other historical accounts) both will be sock puppets for various interests.

    There are slightly different flavours of each failing for both from what I see but flip a coin and essentially the same result.
     
  6. crimpshrine

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    Did you see Biden's tweet yesterday?

    LOL


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    I am hearing now that states where governors are instating lockdowns again because of hotspots, businesses are ignoring them. Because they can't financially take it anymore. Illinois being one of them. Illinois/Wisconsin/Michigan cases are spiking heavy and the democrat governors are not helping things.

    Maybe if they wear 2 surgeons masks instead of 1 that will be the solution.
     
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  7. monkeyman4412

    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash
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    AH YES I didn't know democrats support communism!
    Oh wait... No, they don't. And nor do they really support any social programs. I don't count joe as very left. most American politics for the left is more center right than actually truly left.
    Also, where are you getting the ban on free speech?
    Like yeah, you can say things. But it doesn't mean you don't have consequences. If I yell fire in a building, and there is no fire. You think that's going to just be let go? No, people are going to be rightfully pissed.
    Third, wtf are you talking about regarding banning the second amendment. They can't do that. Banning a specific arm type, doesn't remove your ability to use arms now does it? I don't see why people need military grade weapons in their homes if it's supposed to be for self defense.
    Also promoting white genocide?
    What world you live in?



    And you spewing your obvious lies gives everyone a reason not to listen to you. Seriously, I must ask what world you live in? Is it trumps world?
    Those that are republican, tend to be more fear reactive. it's why most republican advertising is base on fear. Perhaps you should get that checked to make sure your not being emotionally exploited.


    Defund the police is both accurate and wrong at the same time. Whoever made that term, poorly choose their words.
    What it actually means is just less funding. And allocating that funding to other professionals. You don't need a cop to deal with a person who is mentally unstable and without a weapon. That job should go to a mental health expert. Not a cop who doesn't know how to handle the situation. Also cops have way more unneeded fatalities. They should not be killing people. It also should be asked why do they have access to military grade equipment if they are supposed to protect people. Your only supposed to use needed force. Not more than what is required. So rather than have police solve everything, even stuff that isn't crime related. Dulling out the responsibilities to other roles so they are less strained, and more focused on doing what they do best. Catching actual criminals.

    And I don't understand your logic. Your clearly letting yourself get manipulated.
     
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  8. LumInvader

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    How much has the nypost.com story impacted national polling?

    Per fivethirtyeight.com:

    October 14th: Biden's up +10.3 points (The day nypost.com published laptop allegations.)
    October 22nd: Biden's up +9.8 points (Today, the date for the final debate.)

    - That's a net loss of -0.5 points over the 8 day period since the story broke.
    - That's only an average of +.06 points gained per day for Trump.
    - With only 12 days left, Trump still needs to shave off another full 6-7 points to have a 50-50 chance at winning.
    - Trump shaved +3.8 points off Hillary's lead over the final 12 days of the 2016 election.
    - However, shaving +3.8 off Biden's current +9.8 point lead would still give Biden a commanding +6.0 lead.
     
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    I doubt that ages well.

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  10. crimpshrine

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    I am surprised it took someone this long to do this.

     
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  11. KingVamp

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    I'm not a Trump supporter, I just happen to repeat the same kind of talking points as one.

    Ah yes, having people's lives and the climate destroyed even more so, to "own the libs".


    Funny, the way I remember it, is Trump trying to open the economy up without any safety precautions and even encouraging people not to follow safety guidelines that got over 200k people killed. Meanwhile praising healthcare that saved him, yet trying to take it from everyone else.

    Idk what to tell you. Just on the climate, healthcare and people's rights alone, shows you this isn't a "both sides" thing.
     
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    businesses would have been better able to survive if standard citizens had cash on hand to spend. But we have gone since may with a bill in the house to extend the $600 per week, but the senate has refused to bring it up for a vote. so now people are whining about companies shuttering when no one has money to spend without a stimulus. which side is activly preventing stimulus talks? oh yeah that's right, the republicans.
     
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    Yet another person that wants to blame trump for everything. there is absolutely no way of knowing if more or less people would of died if things were done differently. Hell if the country would of stayed open maybe 300k people would of died but we would have heard immunity by now. Instead 200k have died and possibly another 200k or more will die. Yet even if that could be proved somehow you would blame trump. Btw there has been a problem with the climate, healthcare in america has always sucked and inequality has always been there but lets blame trump for all that 2.
    No u want money go out and get a god damn job. There are plenty of people hiring quit asking for free money. First thing they should do is round all these people rioting and looting up. Make sure they not only loose any benefits they currently have but make them ineligible to ever receive any ever again.
     
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    so, people are unemployed, businesses fired them because of an economic slowdown. where are they going to get jobs? businesses cannot hire, because people have no money to spend. when people have money to spend, businesses can hire more people to meet that demand, the opposite holds true, when people have less on hand cash, businesses slash workers. the solution is stimulus, austerity doesn't do a fucking thing. we learned this during the last major recession, ask Europe how austerity turned out.
     
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    Then they live off the regular amount given for unemployment. Just because most people currently laid off is middle/upper class doesnt mean we should make new rules up (just for them) and (just this time). Its plenty enough $ when joe shmoe looses his job. You keep giving an extra $600 a week to alot of people that never make that amount any way they will never go back to work. If all else fails get a fucking job at mcdonalds their hiring. Oh wait the employee working there is essential and makes half that a week if he/she is lucky. Maybe they should get that extra money for working durring all this instead of you ungrateful shits sitting on your ass at home.
     
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    so these people just hold on to this extra $600? no buying cool things like tv's, streaming services, extra food? too bad you have no idea how reality works with the economy.
    https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume...ents-in-the-time-of-the-covid-19-pandemic.htm

    Key findings
    • Of all respondents to the HPS in week 7, 84 percent reported that they received or they expect to receive a stimulus payment.

    • Of those who received or expected to receive a payment, the largest percentage indicated that they would use the stimulus payment to mostly pay for expenses.

    • Of those who received or expected to receive a stimulus check, 66 percent reported using at least a portion of it for food.

    • Compared with other generational groups, Generation X was slightly more likely to use the stimulus for expenses (74 percent of respondents in this group). The Silent generation reported that they were more likely to save the stimulus payment (25 percent) than were respondents born in other generations.3

    • Respondents most frequently reported using “regular” income (i.e., their usual sources of income) to meet their spending needs (e.g. food, shelter, utilities, household items, paying off debt, etc.) “in the past 7 days” (70 percent), followed by the stimulus payment (26 percent).

    • Of the 48 percent of respondents reporting a loss of income since March 13, the majority (81 percent) reported using their stimulus payment mostly for expenses, as opposed to paying off debt or adding to savings, as might be expected. The resources they used to meet their spending needs were more diverse than those not reporting a loss of income.

    • Of respondents who reported not working for pay, 55 percent cited one of the following reasons for why they were not working: because they were sick themselves or a member of their household was sick, they were caring for someone else, they experienced a job loss or drop in hours worked, or they were concerned with getting COVID-19. These respondents were more likely to use the stimulus payment to meet expenses compared to the 45 percent of respondents who cited not working because they were retired or did not want to work.
     
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    I know exactly how it works. YOU WANT MONEY YOU FUCKING WORK FOR IT. That cashier you yelled at for not having any toilet paper a few months ago is a single mom making a whopping $200 to $300 a week working as an essential worker while your unessential ass wants an extra $600 to sit on your ass. Who pays for that the essential TAX PAYING WORKER. How about giving it to the people working for a fucking living instead of to the unemployed. Let the unessential just fuck off.
     
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    sure, tell that to families who are struggling to make rent, or pay for food. you know, people like my wife who were tax paying workers before they got laid off. no wonder the republicans are getting smashed. also news flash, not everyone is able to work retail or front line jobs. we have at risk people in our house. and for the record, my family has never once purposefully put front line workers at risk by not wearing a mask or yelling at them. treat them with the respect they deserve, push for a higher minimum wage, and stimulus for families.
     
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    Your wife doing all the working in the family? How is she any better than the single moms out there only making $300 a week working in the gas stations and grocery stores. Wtf makes you think you deserve more money than someone working for a living. Take the usual unemployment amount and fuck off. dont like it move to another country
     
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    I'm still employed, paying for her masters program while the economy is fucked. you are actively making this country worse.
     
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