MAGA Round 2?

[tabzer]

I unequivocally condemn those committing actual acts of violence, especially when unprovoked. Hopefully you're willing to say the same about all the murders linked to right-wing extremism which occurred in 2018 as well as this year.

I didn't point at/laugh/mock any claims that right-wing extremists can be dangerous/violent. You are a dick all by yourself with this one.

he inspires just as much (home-grown) terrorism as he "fights,"

And when the past 4-5 presidents were fighting terrorists, they were NOT doing that?

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This post is really scary. Not just because of the display of mob mentality (which is terrible regardless of beliefs or politics) but because there doesn't seem to be a consensus of actions, motives, or persons for each of the videos. There are many dangerous claims, which may be true, but are unproven. Additionally, some people are calling the poster a notorious propagandist. Regardless, I don't approve of mobs harassing individuals, especially with violence.

Scary stuff, these times are. Mobs, suicides, terroristic murders, all within the states.

Antifa organizes mobs [ie: protests] with the hopes that violent people show up. It does appear that they want a shit-show and a reason to be violent. It is the manner in which Antifa incites violence. The dude posting on twitter seems to be wanting to pin it on Portland's police.

 

[Xzi]

I didn't point at/laugh/mock any claims that right-wing extremists can be dangerous/violent. You are all by yourself with this one.

In which case it shouldn't be a stretch for you to condemn those acts of violence and murder just as I did, rather than dancing around the subject.

And when the past 4-5 presidents were fighting terrorists, they were NOT doing that?

Oh, Dick Cheney and GWB definitely knew from the start that the "war on terror" was likely to be endless. Attacking civilian centers and justifying it after the fact by suggesting that all Muslims are terrorists was a sure-fire way to make radical ideologies more appealing to the survivors. Subsequently, the stresses of never-ending war and divisions along those same lines of xenophobia/anti-xenophobia were also guaranteed to radicalize a lot of the American population in the long run. The fact that they were aware of all this and still willing to commit to it just to retain four more years in office is what makes it particularly insidious. I still can't believe we didn't charge most members of that administration with war crimes.

Antifa organizes mobs with the hopes that violent people show up.

When the event is organized by extremist groups like the 'proud boys,' violence is guaranteed whether antifa hope for it or not. And of course, violence begets more violence.

 

[tabzer]

In which case it shouldn't be a stretch for you to condemn those acts of violence and murder just as I did, rather than dancing around the subject.

You alone mocked the idea that someone would have a reason to fear antifa, and posted a link showing that you are willing to ignore all the violence just to make fun of it. You don't get to make this about me. Instead of reacting from a place of entitlement, you should be apologizing.

Oh, Dick Cheney and GWB definitely knew from the start that the "war on terror" was likely to be endless. Attacking civilian centers and justifying it after the fact by suggesting that all Muslims are terrorists was a sure-fire way to make radical ideologies more appealing to the survivors. Subsequently, the stresses of never-ending war and divisions along those same lines of xenophobia/anti-xenophobia were also guaranteed to radicalize a lot of the American population in the long run. The fact that they were aware of all this and still willing to commit to it just to retain four more years in office is what makes it particularly insidious. I still can't believe we didn't charge most of that administration with war crimes.

Interesting that you can see how it worked for 1 out of the past 5 presidents...

When the event is organized by extremist groups like the 'proud boys,' violence is guaranteed whether antifa hope for it or not. And of course, violence begets more violence.

Antifa planned to protest their event, and "punching nazis" is the MO. So yes, of course the stage has been set for violence.

 

[Xzi]

You alone mocked the idea that someone would have a reason to fear antifa, and posted a link showing that you are willing to ignore all the violence just to make fun of it. You don't get to make this about me. Instead of reacting from a place of entitlement, you should be apologizing.

So you refuse to condemn murder as long as it's committed on behalf of your "team." Good to know what type of person I'm dealing with here. Being amused by a video of a dancing unicorn doesn't change my stance on condemnation of unprovoked violence, and I'm not going to repeat myself a third time.

Interesting that you can see how it worked for 1 out of the past 5 presidents...

There have only been three different presidents since the war on terror was initiated. I'm not a fan of war for the sake of imperialism either, but that's largely a separate subject which dates back much further than the last five presidents.

Antifa planned to protest their event, and "punching nazis" is the MO. So yes, of course the stage has been set for violence.

Indeed, neither proud boys events nor antifa protests are known for an atmosphere of peacefulness and tranquility. Individuals looking for that should probably try an Enya concert instead.

 

[tabzer]

So you refuse to condemn murder

I refuse to give you lip service. Condemning murder at your request is such an empty gesture. Consider the context of doing it at the request of someone who "condemns things" only the sake of plausible deniability. You are asking that I humble myself before you because why? You are too ashamed to apologize?

There have only been three different presidents since the war on terror was initiated. I'm not a fan of war for the sake of imperialism either, but that's largely a separate subject which dates back much further than the last five presidents.

"initiated". Yet presidencies were carried on keeping the good fight going. I mean that as in ensuring that they do not end.

Indeed, neither proud boys events nor antifa protests are known for an atmosphere of peacefulness and tranquility. Individuals looking for that should probably try an Enya concert instead.

there you go again

You alone mocked the idea that someone would have a reason to fear antifa, and posted a link showing that you are willing to ignore all the violence just to make fun of it.

 

[Joe88]

Antifa organizes mobs [ie: protests] with the hopes that violent people show up. It does appear that they want a shit-show and a reason to be violent. It is the manner in which Antifa incites violence. The dude posting on twitter seems to be wanting to pin it on Portland's police.

I don't think he is doing that but rather trying to blame the mayor which has been criticized for his mishandling of these protests, it seems he is telling police to stand down where its looking like that antifa has the run of the place. They did do a lot better job this time around since all the media attention has been on them.
There's tons of video where antifa members are just causing violence for no reason, mass property destruction, rioting , arson, etc, even when there is no one to "attack", heres just a random video of an antifa member smashing windshields of city cars with a hammer and set them on fire for no reason.




Theres tons of videos like this like the UC berkely one, just destroying anything and everything. There was one on trumps inauguration day where antifa destroyed and set fire to a limo, which belonged to a muslim immigrant https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-fire-during-the-inauguration-protests-belong
If these right wing groups are left alone, then they ralley/march or whatever and go home, they never destroy anything, they don't just commit acts of violence for no reason, they were having a barbeque yesterday, but its always the same story as soon as antifa gets involved. I'm not saying they dont have a right to protest but when the protests almost 100% of the time turn violent and antifa are the instigators most of the time something needs to be done. Just because you have a different politcal opinion then someone else doesnt give you the right to commits acts of violence against them claiming they are nazis or whatever all while the media defends and eggs them on.

 

[Xzi]

I refuse to give you lip service. Condemning murder at your request is such an empty gesture.

Nobody here has seen you condemn right-wing extremism in any form, and that being the case, some are even going to assume that you endorse it. Therefore condemning it would be far from an empty gesture, it might even lend you a bit more credibility.

"initiated". Yet presidencies were carried on keeping the good fight going. I mean that as in ensuring that they do not end.

Don't get me wrong, starting a war solely for the sake of re-election and/or imperialism is ridiculous, but America's involvement in certain wars has been justified. With WW2, for example, we probably should've gotten involved even sooner.

You alone mocked the idea that someone would have a reason to fear antifa, and posted a link showing that you are willing to ignore all the violence just to make fun of it.

I was mocking the fact that Ngo was portraying the unicorn video as violence toward police alongside other videos that did actually show violence. Does that clear things up for you?

 

[tabzer]

Nobody here has seen you condemn right-wing extremism in any form, and that being the case, some are even going to assume that you endorse it. Therefore condemning it would be far from an empty gesture, it might even lend you a bit more credibility.

Keep bargaining. I don't have the right to offer for your left.

I was mocking the fact that Ngo was portraying the unicorn video as violence toward police along with other videos that did actually show violence.

He certainly was not. And you certainly were not.

Are you trying to appeal to blind people now?

My god you're right, just have a look at this: violent antifa extremist thugs assault police officers, circa 2019.

I don't know why I couldn't see it before, but this whole antifa thing is out of control. It's gone completely bananas.

 

[Xzi]

Keep bargaining. I don't have the right to offer for your left.

I guess we'll leave it at that, then. It's meaningless to attempt civil discussion with someone who condones murder for the sake of political expedience.

 

[Josshy0125]

I literally fucking can't. Like. It started off hilarious, and honestly I thought some were joking. Now I realize that they're being totally serious, and I pray to whatever God may happen to be out there that these fucking morons don't have offspring. They'll ruin this planet with their low IQ and destructive beliefs. Jesus fuck dude. I am mind-blown.

 

[IncredulousP]

I literally fucking can't. Like. It started off hilarious, and honestly I thought some were joking. Now I realize that they're being totally serious, and I pray to whatever God may happen to be out there that these fucking morons don't have offspring. They'll ruin this planet with their low IQ and destructive beliefs. Jesus fuck dude. I am mind-blown.

Hey, if that's how the human race ends up, then we deserve to reap no better than we sow. No matter which political philosophy is followed, deviation from the optimal path will be felt by those walking it.

 

[Josshy0125]

Hey, if that's how the human race ends up, then we deserve to reap no better than we sow. No matter which political philosophy is followed, deviation from the optimal path will be felt by those walking it.

Thats some scary shit mate!

 

[morvoran]

@morvoran What do you think of Eisenhower's presidency?

I'm not sure. I need @Xzi to inform me what propaganda his antifa handlers fed him after he drank a gallon of their "jesus juice".

Seriously, Eisenhower was the president of desegregation of the military, of our capital, and of schools. He may not have vocalized his approval of it, but he still made it happen during his term.

When the event is organized by extremist groups like the 'proud boys,' violence is guaranteed whether antifa hope for it or not. And of course, violence begets more violence.

This statement makes me think you're the type of person who would torture cats and go cry to mommy when they scratched you. The proud boys are nothing more than a group of conservative guys that hung out together wearing their MAGA hats and praise Trump. Their only crime was defending themselves from antifa attacks. Everywhere the proud boys went, the antifa was sure to follow and cause havoc. Antifa was the aggressor in every situation. Yet, proud boys are the terrorist gang? Sheesh!

I pray to whatever God may happen to be out there that these fucking morons don't have offspring. They'll ruin this planet with their low IQ and destructive beliefs.

I know, right? These leftist morons are killing American and everything it stands for. Don't worry, though, the upcoming generation of kids are learning how foolish they are and will eradicate their way of thinking eventually after the radical left all either grow up or pass on.

I literally fucking can't.

I thought you literally fucking couldn't back on page 2 or 3? Why are you back now? Just to say you are leaving again? Bye Felisha!!!

 

[Josshy0125]

I'm not sure. I need @Xzi to inform me what propaganda his antifa handlers fed him after he drank a gallon of their "jesus juice".

Seriously, Eisenhower was the president of desegregation of the military, of our capital, and of schools. He may not have vocalized his approval of it, but he still made it happen during his term.

This statement makes me think you're the type of person who would torture cats and go cry to mommy when they scratched you. The proud boys are nothing more than a group of conservative guys that hung out together wearing their MAGA hats and praise Trump. Their only crime was defending themselves from antifa attacks. Everywhere the proud boys went, the antifa was sure to follow and cause havoc. Antifa was the aggressor in every situation. Yet, proud boys are the terrorist gang? Sheesh!

I know, right? These leftist morons are killing American and everything it stands for. Don't worry, though, the upcoming generation of kids are learning how foolish they are and will eradicate their way of thinking eventually after the radical left all either grow up or pass on.

I thought you literally fucking couldn't back on page 2 or 3? Why are you back now? Just to say you are leaving again? Bye Felisha!!!

I still fucking cant. It's an ongoing issue.

 

[morvoran]

I still fucking cant. It's an ongoing issue.

Just admit it. You're loving every moment of this thread. Like a car wreck, you can't look away.
You think this is bad now, just wait for Trump's second term. The leftists will really be angry then. Their mommas won't be able to save them from all their drama. I have my leftist tears cup ready.

 

[Josshy0125]

Just admit it. You're loving every moment of this thread. Like a car wreck, you can't look away.
You think this is bad now, just wait for Trump's second term. The leftists will really be angry then. Their mommas won't be able to save them from all their drama. I have my leftist tears cup ready.

Troll confirmed.

 

[morvoran]

Troll confirmed.

Josshy0125's dictionary
Troll:
noun: someone on the internet, usually in forums, who always tells the honest truth
Example: morvoran said Trump is going to win a second term which is so true. What a troll.

Well, based on that definition, I guess I am.

 

[IncredulousP]

Seriously, Eisenhower was the president of desegregation of the military, of our capital, and of schools. He may not have vocalized his approval of it, but he still made it happen during his term.

Ah okay. How about his economic policies?

 

[WeedZ]

This thread has completely devolved into feces throwing.