MAGA Round 2?

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  1. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    Yeah bro, you better watch yourself, because I'm such an extreme leftist that I might insist on giving you healthcare coverage and a tuition-free college education. :bortz2:
     
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  2. morvoran

    morvoran Trump supporter

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    ok, here it goes. Yo momma pulls so many fake facts from yo momma. It's so hard to keep track of yo momma.

    Hmmm, nope, doesn't work for me.

    MAGA round 2 in 2020!! Wait for it, folks, it's coming!

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    hey buddy, you forgot to add this to your reply---
    And take over 60% of your paycheck to give you all that "free stuff"!!!
     
  3. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    If you're a billionaire I guess. But if that's the case, you didn't earn that money anyway, and your standard of living isn't going to be changed if we take most of it to provide the rest of the country with their own decent standard of living.
     
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  4. supersonicwaffle

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    Thank you very much but I already have both of those.
    You should go read the person you’re quoting though, Karl Popper did some excellent work. I’m referring to your posting or liking extremist propaganda here.
    We both don’t like right wing extremism or even radicalism but there’s speech we don’t like that we have to put up with because we need to grant the enemies from within our liberal society the same liberties that we have, so as long as they’re not breaking the law we will have to accept their right to speak, if they do break the law call the cops not another extremist group.
     
  5. morvoran

    morvoran Trump supporter

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    If I was a billionaire, I would not be on this site learning how to borrow games for free (maybe I am a Democratic socialist after all).

    Either you're not a Democrat, just don't care about their policies, or the 2020 nominees are not left enough for you, but you definitely dont keep with them and their stances. Bernie said he will have to raise taxes on the middle class (and the poor I'm sure) to pay for all this stuff he wants to give for "free". There will be no billionaires in America if his policies were put in place as they would hide their money in off shore accounts, and he would be forced to raise our taxes. Get with the program and get deprogrammed of the lies you are being fed by your DNC overlords.


    . Yeah, but to the far left, cops are another evil extremist group against them, also (unless someone hurts their feelings then they yell for help from them). I don't think leftists can accept civility over treachery.
     
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  6. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    Yeah I know, your flag indicates that. Maybe one day we'll get to enjoy the same benefits in America, fingers crossed.

    Perhaps you are, but piracy transcends political ideology.

    Sanders is my preferred candidate, and I'm definitely left of liberals/neoliberals. Yes, he's being realistic by saying that taxes will have to go up on the middle class slightly, but what you pay in taxes would still be far less than you pay for insurance premiums/deductibles and college tuition currently. Not to mention it would save money for small businesses who would no longer have to provide coverage for their employees.

    Umm, billionaires already hide their money in offshore tax havens, and they'll continue to do that regardless of the tax rate. Of course taxes on the wealthiest people/corporations will have to be raised after Trump slashed them to unsustainable lows.
     
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  7. tabzer

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    People can oppose fascism without joining violent radical groups. I've never suggested fascism is good. On the contrary, I've suggested that it is bad, and that antifa participants are capable of behaving that way. You are putting too many words in my mouth to take your what you say as an argument.

    No I haven't. You've seemed to combine a strawman with an ad hominem. Is that creative or self-defeating?

    "Hey, this guy doesn't like vegan lifestyle. He must be pro-cancer."
     
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  8. morvoran

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    what if I don't go to the doctor, go to college, or have enough employees that I have to provide coverage? I still have to subsidize everyone else's "free stuff"? How is that not socialism or fair? His policies definitely won't save me any money.

    . OMG, if that's already true, then how is he going to get them to pay for all this "free stuff"? Is he going to sweet talk them to stop hiding their money? What if he becomes a billionaire, will he only go after the trillionaires then? (Remember when he was after millionaires, too, until he became one?)

    Somebody please pinch Xzi because this person is dreaming!!!!!
     
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  9. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    God forbid your taxes contribute to the health and betterment of the working class rather than subsidizing billionaires and corporations like they do now, right? :rolleyes:

    Sanders is fine with paying more in taxes himself, I don't know what tabloid rag you read that stated otherwise. And it doesn't matter how much money billionaires try to hide in offshore accounts if you tax their profits.
     
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  10. chaoskagami

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    Arguments are reserved for when the two entities involved share basic common sense and are both rational human beings.

    There are quite a few points in common between Trump supporters and cancer, by the way. They are dangerous, lead to problems for the whole population and multiply rapidly if left unchecked.

    Anyways, I'm out. This thread - as per usual - is a complete and utter waste of time. I'm not sure why I even bother.
     
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  11. morvoran

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    God forbid I have to pay for you or others to change your bodies into whatever you "feel like" this week or pay to murder children. God forbid if I did go to the hospital, that I would have to wait weeks or months for a necessary surgery and hope I live long enough to actually have it performed. I don't subsidize corporations, I use their goods/services so you can have a paycheck. In Bernie's future, it will be so China/Mexico workers can get a paycheck.

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmm,. What money do you think they hide in these offshore accounts? Their net losses?

    Just like Bernie and the other socialist running for president, you're spewing wishes in one hand while shitting in the other. Except the shit has piled so high it's not just filling your hands, but covering your whole body now. It has done infested your minds with so much shit, you think it's normal to be shat on.


    Thank God Trump is going to win. He will keep the shit off of all of us.
     
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  12. Xzi

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    Congratulations, this is some top-tier retardation. I lost brain cells just reading it.

    Look up capital gains tax. I can't be bothered to explain basic economic concepts to somebody who apparently dropped out of middle school. You're in need of that tuition-free college education more than most.
     
  13. morvoran

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    No, I rinsed some of that crap out of your head that replaced your brain cells long ago with that true statement.

    . Wow, maybe I rinsed a little too much crap out if your head with my other statement. Here, I'll put some crap back in "Elizabeth Warren has valid points", "Bernie does own a comb and uses it daily". There, feel better?
     
  14. tabzer

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    It's a shame that you can't be rational and be accountable. Likening Trump supporters to cancer is giving too much credit to your fake democracy.
     
  15. supersonicwaffle

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    Unfortunately I have to agree here. The left's outright refusal to distance themselves and condemn extremism from their side is very disheartening. They're rightfully demanding right wing politicians to distance themselves from right wing extremism, so you have to assume they know full well what they're doing.
    Ultimately you have people like @Xzi who is pushing extremist propaganda like misrepresenting philosophers to fit their views, justifying extremist violence as self defense or arguing that ANTIFA can't be fascist because they call themselves "Antifascist Action". Saying a white supremascist group can't be advocating white supremacy because they call themselves "anti white supremacists" would literally be the same argument. Their behaviour is nonsensical, asinine, vile and disgusting.
     
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  16. IncredulousP

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    I disagree, there are facts and logic being posted, countered by opinionated, baseless, regurgitated nonsense.

    @morvoran What do you think of Eisenhower's presidency?
     
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  17. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    My god you're right, just have a look at this: violent antifa extremist thugs assault police officers, circa 2019.

    I don't know why I couldn't see it before, but this whole antifa thing is out of control. It's gone completely bananas. :wtf:
     
  18. tabzer

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    That link you posted by Andy Ngo has some interesting posts:

    A large antifa mob chase & attack a man & a young girl who got separated from the others. No police.

    More anarchy and chaos in Portland by antifa.

    Antifa attacks people on a bus. They try to pull them out and hit them with a hammer.

    Middle-age man was maced and beaten by an antifa mob. He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His partner or spouse was trying to protect him as mob still surrounded them. No police.

    No police in sight as antifa mob descends on men. A fight involving weapons breaks out.

    looks like @Xzi commenting

    It seems like how this is going to play out, politically, is it's going to be used for Trump's benefit. Every president that starts a fight with a terrorist group gets re-elected to continue the fight. So perhaps Antifa will be Trump's ISIS.

    @chaoskagami probably believes that this is the best way to "fight fascism".
     
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  19. Xzi

    Xzi All your base are belong to the proletariat

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    I unequivocally condemn those committing actual acts of violence, especially when unprovoked. Hopefully you're willing to say the same about all the murders linked to right-wing extremism which occurred in 2018 as well as this year. Putting a damper on Trump's re-election chances, he inspires just as much home-grown terrorism as he "fights," and even the likes of Fox News have begun referring to the president as a white supremacist.

    Andy Ngo is a conservative journalist, so the unicorn coverage contrasting his typical slant was amusing to see.
     
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  20. IncredulousP

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    This post is really scary. Not just because of the display of mob mentality (which is terrible regardless of beliefs or politics) but because there doesn't seem to be a consensus of actions, motives, or persons for each of the videos. There are many dangerous claims, which may be true, but are unproven. Additionally, some people are calling the poster a notorious propagandist. Regardless, I don't approve of mobs harassing individuals, especially with violence.

    Scary stuff, these times are. Mobs, suicides, terroristic murders, all within the states.
     
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