It's no surprise that the next generation of consoles is upon us. But when exactly, we can't say for sure. For Sony, its PlayStation 5 is not going to be retailed this year. Speaking to Wired, Sony's Mark Cerny, the lead system architect for the PS4, provided some juicy details regarding the company's much awaited console, but also noted that their "next-gen console won’t be landing in stores anytime in 2019".

Release date aside, Cerny provided more details regarding the specs of the device. As expected, the latter will boast a better CPU and GPU. More specifically, the home console will pack a CPU based on the third generation of AMD’s Ryzen line with eight cores of the company’s new 7nm Zen 2 microarchitecture, and for its GPU, a custom variant of Radeon’s Navi family, with ray tracing support will be embedded.

Cerny notes that the ray tracing technology will have more use than just improving on the visual aspect on this 8K-compatible device. “If you wanted to run tests to see if the player can hear certain audio sources or if the enemies can hear the players’ footsteps, ray tracing is useful for that,” he says. “It's all the same thing as taking a ray through the environment.”

More than just focusing on the visuals, Sony is also laying emphasis on the audio, stating that the AMD chip also packs a custom unit for 3D audio. “As a gamer,” Cerny says, “it's been a little bit of a frustration that audio did not change too much between PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4. With the next console the dream is to show how dramatically different the audio experience can be when we apply significant amounts of hardware horsepower to it.”

Of note, the PlayStation 5 will also come with a solid state drive (SSD) which will drastically improve in-game load times. During the interview, Wired had a glimpse of this when Cerny compared fast travel in 2018's Spider-Man between a PS4 Pro and a PS5 dev-kit: it took 15 seconds on the PS4 Pro while it a mere 0.8 seconds on the PS5.

Wait, that's all cool but Spider-Man is getting a re-release on the PS5?! Not quite. According to the interview, this next-gen PlayStation will be partly based on the PS4’s architecture, and will also be backward-compatible with PS4 games. Also compatible with the PS5 will be the current PSVR headset. Moreover, the next generation of PlayStation-branded console will still support physical media instead of being a download-only device.

So what do you think of the next PlayStation so far? Which features do you wish it to support and do you think Sony will implement them?

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[VitaType]

Hopefully that won't have a too large impact on SSD prices. The price of these kind of products is strongly based on offer and demand, more so then with many other products.

 

[Deleted member 388531]

A 2080 Ti can't run quake 2 at 1440p with ray tracing, WTF makes them think
a cheaper GPU will manage at 8K?

 

[Bladexdsl]

Hopefully that won't have a too large impact on SSD prices. The price of these kind of products is strongly based on offer and demand, more so then with many other products.

ssd are cheap as piss these days and in a year when this is prob going to be out they will be even cheaper...unless you want the M.2 2280 NVMe SSD now they are fucking expensive!

 

[radicalwookie]

I hope there will be no retarded gimmicks like touchpad on the controllers anymore.
Just make a solid controller, with long battery life, good analog sticks and thats id. I dont need motion trash or touchpads or finger sensors and all that bullshit.

 

[KingVamp]

I can see them at least giving you 500GB SSD.

What is the point of bundling the console with a SSD that will unnecessarily raise it's price point considerably? Why not go the PS4 route and allow for nice and easy hard disk upgrading for those who care?

Well, because speed. Can you imagine them not allowing hard drives. As in, SSD only?

8k is irrelevant at this point and future-proofing doesn't make sense anymore since mid-gen refreshes are a reality now. Even in the future, 8k is not really important unless you're going for a 70 inch screen or something like that.

They talk about 8K, but I'm pretty sure most of the power will go to performance. At least for now. I doubt 8K will be that popular even years from now.

 

[Bladexdsl]

8k LMAO yeah right not for at least another 10 years 4k is barely doable into the console market without using gfx downgrade and performance tricks. PC can't even do 8k and if PC can't do it than consoles sure as hell can't!

 

[hemi426]

4k@60fps yes
8k@15fps no

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ps5 is going to cost more at launch than the ps4/pro.surprise,surprise?

 

[anhminh]

Its not about nude girls, they are concern about girls that may appear underage, and they truly look like underage girls, despite some having a canonically adult age, because japanese dont feel ashamed of making girls appear like lolis, or put true lolis in siggestive situations, and that's as much disgusting as your counter-reply about violence.

So little girl nude is much more disgusting than killing people for fun? Good that we keep priority straight.

 

[Deleted_413010]

Paid multiplayer

Nintendo was bound to do this sooner or later. Atleast its cheap.

 

[FAST6191]

Nintendo was bound to do this sooner or later. Atleast its cheap.

I resent paying for something which costs them a rounding error, and should probably have gone in the games (to say nothing of a lot of it still being p2p, and awful despite more than a decade to sort it out) as well as only getting relatively cheaper to run.

Being "cheap" is both infinitely more than free and no great consolation.

 

[Teletron1]

Ok Mr. Cerny is BSing big time here.

What is the point of bundling the console with a SSD that will unnecessarily raise it's price point considerably? Why not go the PS4 route and allow for nice and easy hard disk upgrading for those who care?

8k is irrelevant at this point and future-proofing doesn't make sense anymore since mid-gen refreshes are a reality now. Even in the future, 8k is not really important unless you're going for a 70 inch screen or something like that.

I just wonder what is his endgame here.

engadget has a review that states it takes 15sec to start up Spiderman on Ps4 pro it takes under a sec to start it up on the Ps5 that's a dramatic difference (basically instant startup)

 

[GerbilSoft]

engadget has a review that states it takes 15sec to start up Spiderman on Ps4 pro it takes under a sec to start it up on the Ps5 that's a dramatic difference (basically instant startup)

Now compare it to a PS4 "Pro" that has an SSD instead of a hard drive.

 

[guily6669]

I'm a bit surprised ray-tracing is part of Navi. I was under the impression that was Nvidia tech and AMD was only doing something "similar" or the like....

Ray Tracing is not from one or the other... it has been used for like decades on renders even by CPU side...

And M$ also added Ray-tracing to their DirectX API if I'm not mistaken.

Nvidia Was simply the first to bring it to gaming in real time, but since M$ has added on their API, any GPU could technically do Ray-tracing without needing Nvidia private stuff, problem is always performance...

Yeah an ssd that is probably 256gb...

I don't think so, prices of SSD have came way down... 256GB is like around 40€ here and its always more expensive than like USA here (Portugal)... 1TB is now close to 100€ so I'm sure Sony can get them very cheap in the range of millions for a console or they can even make their own SSD if they even wanted since they make mSD and other memory types (though I don't know exactly if its them who manufacturer or if they pay other companies to manufacture their memory related products).

A 2080 Ti can't run quake 2 at 1440p with ray tracing, WTF makes them think
a cheaper GPU will manage at 8K?

It might be just like PS4 PRO, 4K everywhere, but in fact theres like a couple 4K games in it, the rest is 1080P, 1440P or whatever and using checkerboard to upscale it to 4K, it also has separated hardware just for the checkerboarding technique they use, but then again its just an upscaling type and its not like it has anything to do with actual PC native 4K all ultra settings either...

Like I tried the best graphical games in the PS4 Pro at 1 meter from the TV they are all blured (Samsung 43 inch 4K TV), while on the PC actual trying even old game like star Wars at 4K all ultra, it has way more color, brightness and even at like 30 cm very close from the TV everything is so god damn super sharp while on the PS4 Pro even the best games are all pixelated...

However further away from the TV, then PS4 Pro start to look pretty damn good since on the PC at true 4K after like around 1 meter the quality doesnt improve any more its sharp as hell since this is not a HUGE TV, but the console simply requires more distance to play with good visuals since its outputting below 4K on almost all games...

Xbox One X on the other hand actually have a lot of games running in true 4K and we can totally notice it, specially on Red Dead Redemption 2, on the PS4 it tends to blur a lot and start to fuck my eyes and I specially hate the TAA, it makes that motion sickness like blurred images, if it was for VR, that shit would not go very good making everyone sick with motion trails and huge blurs, on the Xone X version on the other hand the game is true 4K and doesnt get blurred though TAA is most likely the same, but the improved resolution helps to calm TAA effects down quite a bit too.

 

[netovsk]

I can see them at least giving you 500GB SSD.

Well, because speed. Can you imagine them not allowing hard drives. As in, SSD only?



They talk about 8K, but I'm pretty sure most of the power will go to performance. At least for now. I doubt 8K will be that popular even years from now.

500gb is nothing, specially when it comes to games with 4k textures. There isn't even a 500gb PS4 Pro because it wouldn't make sense and it doesn't even have actual 4k gaming let alone a next gen PS5 that should finally deliver 4k.

 

[guily6669]

Totally agree and ppl maybe still think SSD's have the same cost as like a year ago or so... Even here where things cost a lot, a 500GB SSD is slightly cheaper than a good 1TB 2.5inch 7200rpm from the PS4 1TB release days, hell even when PS4 Pro came out a good 1TB HDD here was still at around 70€ and the one I wanted from Seagate the Hybrid was like 120€ for 1TB so I never bought it...

I'm sure Sony can totally get a 1TB SSD in it for sure since even for the end user final price here the cheapest is close to 100€ now here (even below 100€ if you buy from ebay or amazon or whatever) and Sony gets them way cheaper or even make their own as they make other types of memory storages for some years...

And I also must add that while there are indeed still very expensive high end 1TB SSD's, if someone here doesnt know, theres also more than 1 type of memory (SSD is just a name and means nothing since there are different types of memories which who doesnt know just think they are all the same SSD type), the high end use a better memory type which lasts way longer and its way more reliable, but they are also way more expensive, they are not even meant for the common user, they are for the industry that really needs very high reliability or someone wealthy that need a very safe place to keep their secret files ...

Common user like me probably just want a SSD in the PC to load things fast and need something cheap and just fast, screw the rest... Though when I make my next PC I will surely buy like a 256GB M.2 with NVME with speeds in the range of GB\s, but I won't also go for the more expensive memory type, just something fast for the OS and the lowest price I can get, I would even be happy with a 128GB M.2 Nvme SSD just for windows and getting a cheaper 1TB SSD just for the more important multiplayer games and I already have a fast 2TB HDD from Seagate for the rest of games\files, at the beginning of the HDD plates it can achieve above 200MB\s of continuous read...

And I also have a 256GB SSD here with no use and never used and currently I'm using a 128GB SSD from a few years ago just for windows, someday I start to glue all of them together and put them all on my next PC (this one is still from 2011) .

 

[Teletron1]

Now compare it to a PS4 "Pro" that has an SSD instead of a hard drive.

I skipped the Ps4 this error but wouldn't people do that if they saw a dramatic difference in load time? found this article that ran some test

 

[KingVamp]

500gb is nothing, specially when it comes to games with 4k textures. There isn't even a 500gb PS4 Pro because it wouldn't make sense

I'm sure Sony can totally get a 1TB SSD in it for sure since even for the end user final price here the cheapest is close to 100€ now here (even below 100€ if you buy from ebay or amazon or whatever) and Sony gets them way cheaper or even make their own as they make other types of memory storages for some years...

I thought about 1TB, but even at the best case, that would be more than 1/4 or 1/5 of the price of the console. I would be surprise, if they pull that off without raising the price from $400.

 

[guily6669]

Well back then the 1TB HDD was also above 70€ here and the SSD is around 100€, and this is final prices for the buyers, the price difference is not even that big, not to mention Sony probably can buy them for what 20$? 30$?

As far as I know Sony also produces other types of memories so they can even make their own cheaper version if they want, but I'm sure they could get them in the range of millions for so cheap that I don't think they would ever bother to make one them self...

Oh and Xbox one also had a version with a SSHDD and that shit at least the one from Seagate here cost 120+€ for 1 TB which is even more than a current faster 1TB SSD and didnt even make much of a improvement to HDD speeds those hybrids are kinda mehh...

 

[Bernhard]

Hope for smooth 60fps in Bloodborne finally....

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They are too focused on running the “newer and better” games...

Also can we get the XMB menu back.... that was such a good home menu. It could probably use a revamp but still

miss the XMB too man!

 

[Hielkenator2]

SSDs have gotten significantly cheaper the last couple years, even a 1TB SATA SSD can be had for anywhere from $100-$150 for consumers nowadays vs the hundreds it would've cost during the PS4's release. It's not that far fetched that Sony could secure high capacity SSDs for cheap in 2019.

More important, games oon ps5 will be programmed with ssd tech in mind! This is to benifit the immense speed improments. ( this was not the case previousely, as switching your current drive in your ps4 for a ssd, did not improve performance a lot. Because the ps4 was not made with ssd in mind )