13 Russians, 3 businesses indicted by Mueller/Rosenstein in connection to Trump

[TotalInsanity4]

Because someone clearly pissed in his cheerios.

You need to come up with a different analogy, that's becoming your catchphrase

I have nothing against people of a different race, illegality is NOT a race, it's a crime. Why is he so bloody blind? Maybe if immigration laws would be changed to where the process was more streamlined, I'd have nothing against people who break the law regardless of their background? But no, he's gonna keep participating in a pissing contest to stroke his epeen. If he tries personal attacks, I'm just gonna tell him to piss up a rope.

Curious, and not trying to detail the thread too far, but food for thought; supposing that there was an implementation that from now on, only white European immigrants were allowed past the border, while everyone else was an "illegal alien". Is illegal still illegal, or does the fact that the law is blatantly unjust excuse the people who, under it, are labeled as criminals?

 

[the_randomizer]

So what is it youre on welfare and believe these immigrants are taking some of your benefits or what?
Also immigrants are the less paid of all. First its white, than blacks, than hispanics. And sometimes their treated like shit, get no holiday pay, and no paid sick days. Youre right, they dont have the same rights you do. And that is when they get screwed over by their employers. But guess what. They have to work to feed their families. So instead of crying and complaining they just say " yes sir".

Oh blah blah blah blah blah. If you can stop being a jerk about my opinion, then I can agree. But if you're going to insist that I say things because I'm against immigrants, then please do me a favor and shut the hell up. Sound good?

I have nothing against LEGAL immigration. I have everything against illegal immigration. See the difference? No, of course you don't, you just want to keep on pissing in my mouth and pass it off as lemonade. I'm sick of politicians trying to shield them as being 100% innocent for breaking the law. They broke the law, they are consequences for breaking the law. By that same vain, if they can break the law and get off free, I should be able to break any law I want and not get fined or jailed. Sound good?

Either come up with a good argument and sources to where I'm actually saying what you think I say, or just shut the hell up already with your ad hominem bullshit. Stop being a jerk.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

So what is it youre on welfare and believe these immigrants are taking some of your benefits or what?
Also immigrants are the less paid of all. First its white, than blacks, than hispanics. And sometimes their treated like shit, get no holiday pay, and no paid sick days. Youre right, they dont have the same rights you do. And that is when they get screwed over by their employers. But guess what. They have to work to feed their families. So instead of crying and complaining they just say " yes sir".

Dude... Stop... If it comes up directly feel free to dig into him, but until then you're derailing the thread and making potentially false statements about character, unless you can find specific quotes

 

[Don Jon]

Dude... Stop... If it comes up directly feel free to dig into him, but until then you're derailing the thread and making potentially false statements about character, unless you can find specific quotes

Fair enough I don't know if he's on welfare and I don't know if he lives in the middle of nowhere not close by to Sanctuary cities so because of that I'll just stop replying to him

 

[the_randomizer]

Fair enough I don't know if he's on welfare and I don't know if he lives in the middle of nowhere not close by to Sanctuary cities so because of that I'll just stop replying to him

Please do, because you're derailing with bullshit and attacks, and it's just driving me to wanting to block people like you. Just, cut it out, like, seriously. I'm done talking to people like you. You don't know me, you can't
make assumptions about me, so don't even try any funny stuff, you got that? Good, now, back to the thread at hand. I'm done here, and until you can just accept others' posts without being hostile, then we have a deal, deal?
Have a nice day now.

You started it and I'm here to stop it. Period.

 

[McWhiters9511]

this stuff takes so long his last 3 years will be up before anything comes out of it lol

 

[Don Jon]

https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/976505375661867008?s=20

 

[Joe88]

You say that as though Hillary's email scandal wasn't going to follow her into office, even though Republicans tried on nine different occasions to prosecute her based on that and couldn't find anything that would stick. Plus, you can't exactly say there isn't a point to this investigation, what with all the blatant evidence of both shady money dealings and international influence on an election that have been cropping up. To quote a friend of mine, "gee, this 'witch hunt' sure is turning up a lot of witches..."

from the bill clinton loretta lynch tarmac meeting https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/comey-loretta-lynch-clinton-tarmac-meeting/index.html
it's a "matter", not an "investigation" https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...candal_a_matter_and_not_an_investigation.html
james comey writing his letter of innocence for hillary months before the investigation was concluded and important people were interviewed http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...efore-completing-interviews-fbi-confirms.html
then the whole gross negligence being changed to extremely careless by peter strzok http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...anged-comeys-language-of-clinton-email-use-to

This sure does look like a ton of corruption to me

https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/976505375661867008?s=20

oh look another hollywood liberal elite thats anti trump, how... not very shocking at all

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Since we're extending the courtesy of not using sources you find biased, maybe find a source that isn't Fox News? I find that HIGHLY suspicious considering it was James Comey's dickering that was widely considered to be one of the biggest factors in her LOSING the election in the first place

 

[the_randomizer]

Since we're extending the courtesy of not using sources you find biased, maybe find a source that isn't Fox News? I find that HIGHLY suspicious considering it was James Comey's dickering that was widely considered to be one of the biggest factors in her LOSING the election in the first place

Do people honestly think that Clinton would've been liked more, given her past and her legacy (her being a Clinton)? People would be unhappy regardless of who the President is, it's always been that way. It's a sad day when people are forced to either be a liberal and believe in liberalism or get ridiculed for conservative beliefs.


Pro gun? Ridiculed.
Anti abortion? Ridiculed.
Christian beliefs? Ridiculed.
Oh and my personal favorite, don't agree with liberal politicians or beliefs? ridiculed.

 

[Xzi]

from the bill clinton loretta lynch tarmac meeting https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/comey-loretta-lynch-clinton-tarmac-meeting/index.html
"ts a "matter", not an "investigation" https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...candal_a_matter_and_not_an_investigation.html
james comey writing his letter of innocence for hillary months before the investigation was concluded and important people were interviewed http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...efore-completing-interviews-fbi-confirms.html
then the whole gross negligence being changed to extremely careless by peter strzok http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...anged-comeys-language-of-clinton-email-use-to

This sure does look like a ton of corruption to me

You're shitting me, right? The Trump administration kicks out that much corruption in five minutes out of their day. Trump's even had bigger e-mail scandals.

If Trump was willing to let this investigation complete on him like Hillary let so many complete on her, we wouldn't have an issue. Then again, Hillary Clinton has the mind of an adult, and Trump has the mind of a 12-year-old XBL player who somehow also has Alzheimer's. So it's probably foolish to expect him to go along with anything peacefully.

Do people honestly think that Clinton would've been liked more, given her past and her legacy (her being a Clinton)? People would be unhappy regardless of who the President is

Unfortunately I think you're correct, but that's only because we wouldn't have anything to compare her to. If we could go back in time and elect her president, we'd have a lot more appreciation for status quo bureaucracy.

 

[the_randomizer]

You're shitting me, right? The Trump administration kicks out that much corruption in five minutes out of their day. Trump's even had bigger e-mail scandals.

If Trump was willing to let this investigation complete on him like Hillary let so many complete on her, we wouldn't have an issue. Then again, Hillary Clinton has the mind of an adult, and Trump has the mind of a 12-year-old XBL player who somehow also has Alzheimer's. So it's probably foolish to expect him to go along with anything peacefully.

And do you think Pence will fare better than Trump if/when he gets impeached? I sure as hell wouldn't want a Clinton running the country again either.

 

[Xzi]

And do you think Pence will fare better than Trump if/when he gets impeached? I sure as hell wouldn't want a Clinton running the country again either.

I think Pence is implicated, he definitely perjured himself over Flynn, but regardless he'd be a lame duck for two years if he does replace Trump. If Mueller issues indictments before the mid-term elections and the Republicans inevitably fail to act, that will be a lot more fire for Democrats going into the voting booth.

 

[the_randomizer]

I think Pence is implicated, he definitely perjured himself over Flynn, but regardless he'd be a lame duck for two years if he does replace Trump. If Mueller issues indictments before the mid-term elections and the Republicans inevitably fail to act, that will be a lot more fire for Democrats going into the voting booth.

Gee, I can't wait for them to take over the White House majority yet again. How joyous. I think I've proven my point, having conservative beliefs is tantamount to being a registered sex offender on the internet.

 

[Xzi]

Gee, I can't wait for them to take over the White House majority yet again. How joyous.

Until we get more than two parties, this is how it works, back and forth. The problem is we're really down to only one party who knows how to lead responsibly. The other thinks that reality TV stars are acceptable presidential candidates.

 

[Old]

Since we're extending the courtesy of not using sources you find biased, maybe find a source that isn't Fox News?

Not gonna happen. Brainwashing is a powerful tool, particularly effective on the willfully ignorant. The Ailes beast knew it well and based his empire on Goebbels’ model.

If you’re able to appeal to the disenfranchised - those with lower IQs, racist tendencies, those that are failing or have failed at life - and are able to convince them that their woes are the fault of the “others” , then you’ve got yourself a fully operational propaganda machine.
I mean, it’s not your fault that you have failed repeatedly; lost your job at Walmart, can’t find a girlfriend, etc., right? It’s the fault of those damned lib-rul eeeleets!/Mexicans!/ho-mo-sexuals!/illegals!/muz-lums!/HILLURRYY!!, RIGHT? Fox ‘news’, Jones, and about a dozen toxic YouTube channels will have you believing so.
“B-b-but her EMAILZ!!” “Ben-GAHH-zeeee!!” “URANIUMMMM!!”, etc. etc., all loooonnnng disproven canards. Hillary’s biggest “crimes” are being an awkward government nerd & having a vagina. The Clinton years were great years for many, prosperous years, before 8 dark years of Bush. Meanwhile, we’ve got an actual monster - a nazi robber baron, conman, and rapist - polluting our White House and the planet.

Thankfully, their days are numbered. Fox ‘conditioning’ dies with grandpa, and where Millennials have failed us Generation Z will help save us.

 

[the_randomizer]

Until we get more than two parties, this is how it works, back and forth. The problem is we're really down to only one party who knows how to lead responsibly. The other thinks that reality TV stars are acceptable presidential candidates.

Thus proving that it's immoral and criminal NOT to support liberalism. Gotcha. It's so nice to be so accepted and loved by others for having a difference of opinion. Gee, you know what? I think I should express my thoughts and opinions more often, I'm sure that'll be just dandy, don't you?? Awesome! What a wonderful day I'm having, no really, and I have the internet to thank for that. This calls for a celebration.

Edit: Curious, if people are allowed to treat those with different opinions like garbage, then why on earth should I treat others who treat me the same, with respect? I have been nothing but trying to be respectful
of those who have liberal beliefs, and this is how I get treated? Sorry, but fair is fair, they treat me like garbage, I have the right to do the same back.

 

[Xzi]

Thus proving that it's immoral and criminal NOT to support liberalism. Gotcha. It's so nice to be so accepted and loved by others for having a difference of opinion. Gee, you know what? I think I should express my thoughts and opinions more often, I'm sure that'll be just dandy, don't you??

That's not remotely what I said. You need to understand there's a big difference between conservatism and Trumpism, the latter of which has co-opted the former. Conservatives used to be able to reason, negotiate, and get shit done, even with Democrats in charge. Trumpists deny reason and logic, only accepting things as fact when they fit a positive narrative for Trump. Much of the time this involves denying reality altogether.

 

[the_randomizer]

That's not remotely what I said. You need to understand there's a big difference between conservatism and Trumpism, the latter of which has co-opted the former. Conservatives used to be able to reason, negotiate, and get shit done, even with Democrats in charge. Trumpists deny reason and logic, only accepting things as fact when they fit a positive narrative for Trump. Much of the time this involves denying reality altogether.

And you're implicating that I, having voted for Trump back in 2016, is automatically labeled as a Trumpist and refuse to listen to logic and reason. Gee, that makes me feel so much better. First I have some baseless punk accuse me of being racist for wanting to have the country have stricter immigration laws to curtail illegal immigration and criminalizing sanctuary cities *cough* California's governor is a dumbass *cough*, and now this. Fantastic.

Edit: What do you suggest I do if I have conservative beliefs but don't want to get ridiculed?

 

[Xzi]

And you're implicating that I, having voted for Trump back in 2016, is automatically labeled as a Trumpist and refuse to listen to logic and reason. Gee, that makes me feel so much better. First I have some baseless punk accuse me of being racist for wanting to have the country have stricter immigration laws to curtail illegal immigration and criminalizing sanctuary cities *cough* California's governor is a dumbass *cough*, and now this. Fantastic.


Puck Folitics.

I wasn't implying anything, I didn't know you voted Trump. Regardless, you're clearly level-headed enough to sustain a conversation for a bit, so you probably are more toward the conservative side and unwilling to follow Trump all the way down the rabbit hole, so to speak.

You're taking light conversation way too seriously, I haven't insulted you or your views at any point here.