If I wanted to move to US this is what I'd need?

[Kioku]

I never bashed a single persons' nationality or their country in the six years I've been here on the Temp, what am I supposed to say to those who hate me and my country?


Think it's a little late for that, given who's in power, what our government's been doing the past six or so months, no? We can't change their minds, they're going to hate us no matter what we do or who we are.

Well, any respectable person knows better than base an opinion of a whole nationality on one piece of it.

 

[dimmidice]

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I'm just gonna say a few things to this. I'm saying these things cause i really truly mean them. And i hope you actually read them and think about it. you seem to think there's danger around any corner from the dangerous scary muslims. You need to see a shrink and stop paying attention to so much right wing media. I'm seriously concerned for your mental health as you seem quite unhinged.

Do you think that loosening the laws would curtail illegal activities? Illegal immigration is a huge issue, why shouldn't there be stricter immigration laws to curtail illegalities? I have no problems with immigration, I have every issue when it's done illegally.

When did i even mention illegal immigration? He made legal immigration harder. That's my entire point.

 

[SuperDan]

if you like me and don't give a fuck about politics like me just ignore these ass pipes and you will have a great life over here

 

[Kioku]

if you like me and don't give a fuck about politics like me just ignore these ass pipes and you will have a great life over here

Well.. Ignorance IS bliss.

 

[linuxares]

I can't hear you over with your socialism bullshit.
Your country is collapsing, you've became a bunch of pussies. If Sweden keeps going like this, there will be no Sweden.

I'm actually for that the kingdom of Sweden disappears and that Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway once again join in to one.

Nothing is free too, you're still paying for all that bullshit. Private is better than public.

Yeah, I don't believe you for a second there. Private is better on some levels, some not so much.

Well Linuxares seems to disagree; I'm not trying to say our country is perfect, no country is or ever will be. All governments want is power to themselves, not power to the people, many politicians are corrupt and selfish.

Yes and no. I disagree with a lot of that the US is better than the Europe remarks. I never said Sweden or EU was perfect. What most people blame/are scared of is the "muslim" invasion. I for one wish we could help people close to the same territory where they're, but some don't have that option.

Also about corrupt politicians, this is why I wish the press did more digging. Then we didn't need Wikileaks to show the dirt.

I lived in the "ghettos" here in Sweden, hmm... I might actually still live in one according to some news sources. Yet I don't feel afraid at all.
Is it perfect here? No. But I be damn if I didn't try to solve it with my vote and discussions.

 

[SuperDan]

Well.. Ignorance IS bliss.

sure is politics is lies with lies and some extra bullshit .. its all middle class hype for fools ... if voting could change anything they wouldn't let us do it....

 

[Kioku]

sure is politics is lies with lies and some extra bullshit .. its all middle class hype for fools ... if voting could change anything they wouldn't let us do it....

I think politics are a joke and politicians are overpaid. That's what happens when you give certain people control. At the end of the day, I believe it needs rebuilt from the ground up. Tired of this two party bullshit.

 

[SuperDan]

I think politics are a joke and politicians are overpaid. That's what happens when you give certain people control. At the end of the day, I believe it needs rebuilt from the ground up. Tired of this two party bullshit.

its just the millionaires club for people born into rich families .. its beyond a joke .. pointless ... excuses for profit making fake wars ....... fake news .. fake everything .. i ignore the hell outta it and always will .. life is much sweeter without all that useless crap annoying my head

 

[rileysrjay]

The American Dream doesn't exist. It's a trick made by capitalists to lure inmigrants into bad jobs.

If the American dream didn't exist, then why do millions of immigrants, legal or illegal, still risk there lives to come here? If it didn't exist then wouldn't you think the ones that already came here would call their friends up back at home and tell them to not even bother to come? Every time I talk to a Latino immigrant around where I live (there are a lot of them here), they are very grateful for being here and having actual economic freedom. Also if the American dream we're dead, then how come Jeff bezos, one of the richest men in the world, came from a teen Mom and didn't really have anything to start out with? The American dream is alive and well, some are just too ignorant to realize it. It's great to see all these people throwing mud at America. Come here and you actually will see we aren't that bad. The media just likes to make it sound like were the worst country ever because they're still butthurt about Trump.

 

[ZachariasBarnham]

I agree with whoever said that Oklahoma is a nice place! That's where I went on vacation this year. Visited Tulsa, I did. It's really got it all there. Big city, grass fields, and mountains all very close to each other. I really want to go back soon, it makes Mississippi seem insignificant, even though it isn't.

 

[Kioku]

If the American dream didn't exist, then why do millions of immigrants, legal or illegal, still risk there lives to come here? If it didn't exist then wouldn't you think the ones that already came here would call their friends up back at home and tell them to not even bother to come? Every time I talk to a Latino immigrant around where I live (there are a lot of them here), they are very grateful for being here and having actual economic freedom. Also if the American dream we're dead, then how come Jeff bezos, one of the richest men in the world, came from a teen Mom and didn't really have anything to start out with? The American dream is alive and well, some are just too ignorant to realize it. It's great to see all these people throwing mud at America. Come here and you actually will see we aren't that bad. The media just likes to make it sound like were the worst country ever because they're still butthurt about Trump.

The original American dream is dead. You can't argue that. There's too many benefits for outsiders to not come here.. But the citizens are treated like dirt. At least the working class is. What with Obamacare/ACA... Tax systems... Education... I find myself spiraling even further every damn day when I try to take part in these amazing benefits. They work for lower and upper classes though. Makes sense, right?

 

[SuperDan]

I agree with whoever said that Oklahoma is a nice place! That's where I went on vacation this year. Visited Tulsa, I did. It's really got it all there. Big city, grass fields, and mountains all very close to each other. I really want to go back soon, it makes Mississippi seem insignificant, even though it isn't.

there is so many lovely places over here Oklahoma, Colorado im in Louisiana absolutely gorgeous ... especially since i come from inner city london which is a huge human zoo .. was great in the 80's growing up 90's too but now its gone to the dogs

 

[rileysrjay]

The original American dream is dead. You can't argue that. There's too many benefits for outsiders to not come here.. But the citizens are treated like dirt. At least the working class is. What with Obamacare/ACA... Tax systems... Education... I find myself spiraling even further every damn day when I try to take part in these amazing benefits. They work for lower and upper classes though. Makes sense, right?

I agree that we aren't perfect and there's still a lot of work to be done when it comes to healthcare, taxes, education, etc., But look where some of these people come from (I'm talking about Central and South America). It's a whole lot better here than it ever was there.

 

[SuperDan]

I agree that we aren't perfect and there's still a lot of work to be done when it comes to healthcare, taxes, education, etc., But look where some of these people come from (I'm talking about Central and South America). It's a whole lot better here than it ever was there.

FACT !!!

 

[FAST6191]

More anti-American bullshit, I love it, keep it coming.

For the record nobody really hates America. The following clip largely summarises what people think when someone says American

 

[the_randomizer]

For the record nobody really hates America. The following clip largely summarises what people think when someone says American

I don't even know what to do or say in these threads anymore..I'll just concede and disavow this ever happening.

 

[FAST6191]

I don't even know what to do or say in these threads anymore..I'll just concede and disavow this ever happening.

The trick is to not take things seriously, or perhaps personally would be a better choice of word.

Or if you prefer
Flame war?
*puts on speedo and dives right in*

 

[rileysrjay]

For the record nobody really hates America. The following clip largely summarises what people think when someone says American

I laughed and I'm an American. Tourists from various parts of the country here visiting other parts will make me laugh just because of how they act. Most of the tourists are jerks here where I live though, which is a shame.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Jesus christ I can't believe the kids talking about Trump here. Grow up.

I know, right?? It's not like his decisions directly affect immigration to the country!

Wait...

 

[RevPokemon]

I know, right?? It's not like his decisions directly affect immigration to the country!

Wait...

But on another point using political leaders as means to base off of which country is the best to live in is fundamentally flawed in all but a totalitarian nation. I would add however that the "best" country really is subjective since the reasons why it is good or bad may vary but I would argue America is superior to say England or Finland but inferior to Singapore.